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Activists call recycling trash waste of time [Environmentalists call recycling "a complete failure"]
National Post ^ | March 03, 2003 | Michael Friscolanti

Posted on 03/04/2003 7:16:56 AM PST by ZGuy

A group of Swedish environmentalists -- convinced that recycling is a colossal waste of time and money -- is urging people to toss their blue boxes in the garbage.

To the chagrin of fellow environmentalists in Canada and across the globe, the group said burning cardboard, plastics and other household trash is actually much better for the planet than any recycling program has turned out to be.

In fact, the group contends the so-called benefits of recycling are all but nullified by the environmental damage associated with hauling the waste to and from the recycling facilities.

Coupled with the overwhelming cost of collecting, sorting and reprocessing the material, the group is convinced that decades-old recycling initiatives are nothing short of a complete failure.

"Protection of the environment can mean economic sacrifices, but to maintain the credibility of environmental politics, the environmental gains must be worth the sacrifice," the consortium wrote in a recent newspaper article.

At the controls of this latest anti-recycling crusade are five residents of Sweden, a country well-known for its trailblazing initiatives aimed at protecting the environment. Made up of environmentalists and waste-collection companies, the team is lead by Valfrid Paulsson, a former director of Sweden's environmental protection agency, and Soren Norrby, the former campaign manager for Keep Sweden Tidy.

Based in a country already full of incinerators, the campaigners say technology has improved so much in recent years that the process is completely clean and safe. It also allows communities to generate significant amounts of electricity, reducing their dependency on oil.

Environmentalists in Canada, however, dismissed any suggestions that recycling is a foundering experiment that should be immediately scrapped.

"I think they're flying a kite," said Guy Dauncey, a Victoria-based author and environmental consultant. "It's nonsense."

For decades, Canada has built very few new garbage incinerators, largely over concerns that they emit harmful substances. Changing that philosophy is definitely not the way to solve any glitches associated with recycling, said Veronica Sherwood, who co-ordinates the Nova Scotia Environment Network, an umbrella organization for the environmental groups in the province.

"Recycling may not be the best choice," she said yesterday. "It burns considerable precious energy and does in fact add to fossil fuel emissions. However, incineration is not an ecologically sound alternative."

Burning recyclables, said Mr. Dauncey, would still entail the same amount of effort as traditional recycling. Simply ensuring that certain toxins do not filter into the air would involve the same level of methodical sorting that occurs now.

And, he said, transportation costs -- both financial and environmental -- would not decrease if incineration replaced recycling.

"You can't put an incinerator in the middle of downtown Toronto," he said.

"So you've still got to haul the stuff to an incinerator."

David Wimberly, a well-known Canadian environmentalist, said the campaigners are doing nothing more than trying to sell a few incinerators.

Either way, other observers said it is time that Canadians -- who produce approximately 21 million tonnes of garbage every year -- more rigorously debate the merits of recycling.

"It's always worth taking a look at the numbers and looking at the reliability and asking: Have we got the mix right now or should we be trying something else," said Donald Dewees, a University of Toronto professor who specializes in environmental economics.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: environmentalist; environmentalists; recycle; recycling
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To: The Great RJ
The best thing about recycling around here is that the courts make criminals do their "community service" sorting the stuff in the orange recycling bags. I'll toss some cans or bottles in the bag sometimes just to give the thugs something to do.
41 posted on 03/04/2003 8:16:29 AM PST by THE Aardvark
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To: Brad Cloven
All those ships from China don't go back empty after supplying Walmart ya know! They haul our garbage.

BTW, since I have a farm....I shred my junk-mail and paper waste into animal bedding which is later composted after enough manure is added. I cut my own meats. I collect my own eggs. We have an outdoor toilet(seasonally permitted). I found the best shower we have is the one we use on livestock(this was after an unfortunate skunking episode). We drain grey water into the garden. We put up our own canned goods in glass jars. Even construction debris like old plaster and drywall gets crushed and spread on the fields. Chickens and goats will provide you eggs and milk merely by eating what you throw away.

Recycling is for those chained to an urban environment and feel bad about it.

42 posted on 03/04/2003 8:20:01 AM PST by blackdog ("But that's what I do" A quote from my Border Collie)
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To: cajungirl
It's about control, not sanitation.
43 posted on 03/04/2003 8:20:58 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: ZGuy
Don't cha love it when enviromentalists eat their own?
44 posted on 03/04/2003 8:22:37 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: blackdog
**Recycling is for those chained to an urban environment and feel bad about it. **

Hardly.

I commend you for doing your part to recycle. You're fortunate to have land and animals to use up recyclable material. Those who don't live in the country can do their part as well. The success varies with the area. Our area has great success in recycling.

45 posted on 03/04/2003 8:24:06 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: cajungirl
I quit recycling when I learned it only saves 1/4 of 1% of landfill space per year...that's 0.25%. Not worth all the trouble and cost to participate, at least in my view.
46 posted on 03/04/2003 8:27:48 AM PST by IrishRainy
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To: homeschool mama
Post consumer content does not come from household garbage. That is full of stickies and other nasties that those versed in paper industry know of. The post consumer content is from corrugated bales produced by industry, grocery stores and such. And yes, as I said...Aluminum cans are valuable and recycled. Sure we sort it all, but most goes to the landfill.

That darn recycled content toilet paper ain't selling so well either. That's why Charmin, Kimberly Clarke and such import all that eucalyptus pulp for their tissue mills here in Wisconsin. They cut down rainforests and have the pulp sent here on ships.

47 posted on 03/04/2003 8:29:12 AM PST by blackdog ("But that's what I do" A quote from my Border Collie)
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To: IrishRainy
If more communities recycled, that number would increase significantly. There are plenty of areas that have a recycling program in place but the commitment of all is needed to make a significant difference. imho.
48 posted on 03/04/2003 8:37:17 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: blackdog; Fidgit
pinging fidgit to repond to blackdogs post 47.
49 posted on 03/04/2003 8:41:06 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: homeschool mama
Good Morning. Seems we have a lot of opinion backed up by very little fact going on here. I guess the 2500 tons a month of sorted grades of paper and corrigated we do here is just a waste of time. We really bale it so that land fills can be filled more efficiently. I wonder what all those little specs on my toilet paper, paper bags and cardboard boxes are?
50 posted on 03/04/2003 8:41:13 AM PST by Fidgit (<------ who's this?)
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To: blackdog
The only time I was ever stung by a wasp was when my Dad moved the out house closer to the barn. I think I prefer fouling the air inside thank you very much!
51 posted on 03/04/2003 8:44:09 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: blackdog
In the California county I live in (Ventura) it is illegal to use gray water in your garden!!!
52 posted on 03/04/2003 8:44:55 AM PST by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy
Why?
53 posted on 03/04/2003 8:46:52 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: homeschool mama
I tend to agree with you. I recycle everything. I throw all kinds of metal and plastic into the recycle bin. If they don't want it, they can bury it.
54 posted on 03/04/2003 8:47:10 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Fidgit
Hey Fidg! Glad you could drop by. ;o)
55 posted on 03/04/2003 8:48:16 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: ZGuy
In the California county I live in (Ventura) it is illegal to use gray water in your garden!!!

Well hell, that's like other things in Cal.

But everyone does it anyway.......LOL!

56 posted on 03/04/2003 8:48:35 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: onedoug
fyi
57 posted on 03/04/2003 8:48:38 AM PST by windcliff
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To: Joe Hadenuf; ZGuy
Didn't Sunset Magazine recently do an article about using grey water...in, of all places, Ventura County? :o) I'll have to look that up.
58 posted on 03/04/2003 8:50:33 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: ZGuy
NO KIDDING. They were told a decade ago it would cost more to recycle and not prove worthwhile. They were wrong but they pushed and pushed. Now we're left with another expensive program and infrastructure demanded by liberals and face the cost of dismantling their failure.
59 posted on 03/04/2003 8:51:19 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Sunshine Sister
They may have lumped black water and gray water together, or they may think that any water other than rainwater or treated water from the hose will have impurities that will build up and contaminate the soil over time. I guess they figure they must stop me from my desire to contaminate my own garden. [sigh]
60 posted on 03/04/2003 8:51:32 AM PST by ZGuy
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