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U.S. flags removed at Asbury Theological Seminary
student | March 28, 2003 | Reagan

Posted on 03/28/2003 12:28:14 AM PST by Reagan79

I am a student at Asbury Theological Seminary, Wilmore KY. I wanted to let everybody know that U.S. flags placed on the cafeteria table were ordered to be removed because of political correctness.


TOPICS: Announcements; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: oldglory; pc; religiousleft; usflagsremoved
I am a student at Asbury Theological Seminary, Wilmore KY. I wanted to let everybody know that U.S. flags placed on the cafeteria table were ordered to be removed because of political correctness. The manager of the school cafeteria was a Gulf War Veteran and he decided to put American flags on the table to support American troops in the Middle East. The Seminary ordered those flags to be removed and it has caused quite a controversey. Folks this is very sad when the American flag is attacked like this. Please help!!! At least call the Seminary and voice your displeasure. You can get contact info at AsburySeminary.edu
1 posted on 03/28/2003 12:28:14 AM PST by Reagan79
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To: Reagan79
OF ALL PLACES!

ASBURY HAS BEEN THE SITE OF AT LEAST ONE PROFOUND REVIVAL PHENOMENON.

GOD--PLEASE HELP THEM GET THEIR VALUES RIGHT!
2 posted on 03/28/2003 12:41:28 AM PST by Quix (QUALITY RESRCH STDY BTWN BK WAR N PEACE VS BIBLE RE BIBLE CODES AT MAR BIBLECODESDIGEST.COM)
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To: Reagan79
I'll voice my displeasure and send an email.

But.... have some fun. Find an Islamic symbol, sneak in and put one on each table.

After they remove those, try a french flag.

Then write a letter to the editor of the student paper asking just who, as Americans, living in America, in a time of war, why we can't place american flags on the tables? Ask if we haven't gone overboard with political correctness and threaten to call in the ACLU to defend your right of free expression. OK..... the last one was a joke. *L*
3 posted on 03/28/2003 12:43:38 AM PST by bart99
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To: Reagan79
Oh

Can you give an email address of the head honcho there and tell me the name/position of the person who made the decision to remove the flags?

thanks.
4 posted on 03/28/2003 12:45:18 AM PST by bart99
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To: Reagan79
I've started printing out stickers and putting them everywhere. Simple messages like Support our Troops and other positive messages (I think keeping it positive is important).

They have sheets of stickers at most office supplies. It is easy to print them up on your printer. If you don't make them too big you can carry them in your pocket.

Find a good place and stick up your message.
5 posted on 03/28/2003 12:51:04 AM PST by MissBaby
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To: Reagan79
I guess the Asbury anti-Americans agree with Fred Phelps: God Hates America.
6 posted on 03/28/2003 12:55:23 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Reagan79
..at least call the Seminary and voice your displeasure. You can get contact info at AsburySeminary.edu...

There's a lot of links there.

Can you let us know who was responsible for the decision to remove the flags?

7 posted on 03/28/2003 1:10:09 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Reagan79
This is a manifestation of one of the multiple reasons why I left this denomination. They are apostate. I am sorry that you have to learn the cold hard facts the hard way, but it is better that you learn them as soon as possible.

If you are upset by this... you will be outraged if you spend any amount of time at all at the national/international website of the UMC. It's best you do.

Socialists, leftists, and marxists have infected the hierarchy. I believe they are beyond repair. I consider it my moral obligation to out the UMC whenever and wherever I find the opportunity.

This organization is riddled with homosexual activists. The General Board & Society is the propaganda arm of the UMC. They denounced the Boy Scouts because the BSA refused to accept homosexual leaders for their troops. Activists lobby for abortion rights, while they have disengenuous policy on their website, extolling the virtues of life. Dubious is an understatement.

They lobby for legislation restricting the right to keep and bear arms.

They are in direct opposition to our President's decision in Iraq.

They are part and parcel to the Council of Churches. Be sure and go to their website as well. Another socialist, leftist, marxist think tank.

I could go on and on.

Flee my child, before you are indoctrinated by the left. Your awakening, to this denomination's true colors, may be the silver lining to this outrageous, un-American, PC madness.

The UMC is not your friend- they are wolves in sheep's clothing. BEWARE... is to BE AWARE !
8 posted on 03/28/2003 1:11:20 AM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: bart99
You're a sneaky one.

Good suggestion.

9 posted on 03/28/2003 2:51:59 AM PST by happygrl
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To: Quix
You are absolutely right about the Revival. It occured about thirty years ago as the Holy Spirit swept around the world.

Seminaries are often volatile places these days, with everyone tiptoeing on eggshells to avoid schism.

10 posted on 03/28/2003 2:58:10 AM PST by happygrl
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To: happygrl
Guess we should pray for a repeat but more advanced performance?

It would sure blunt the enemy's plans and pride to have students praying and worshipping 24/7 as then.

Blessings,
11 posted on 03/28/2003 3:06:57 AM PST by Quix (QUALITY RESRCH STDY BTWN BK WAR N PEACE VS BIBLE RE BIBLE CODES AT MAR BIBLECODESDIGEST.COM)
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To: Reagan79
Sounds like you need to change seminaries.
12 posted on 03/28/2003 3:53:13 AM PST by Jmouse007
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To: Reagan79
Awfully nice of you to sign up today just to tell us this. Maybe I'm a tad paranoid, but just in case...


13 posted on 03/28/2003 4:39:05 AM PST by Jaxter (Proud Republican voter since 1972.)
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To: Jmouse007
There is nothing wrong with Asbury in general or the United Methodists as a whole. The problem is that the higher up the ladder someone goes the more they tend to become liberal in their public personas. Thus the chism between United Methodists as individuals and most of the United Methodist Church's leadership. And the further north the state the more liberal they get.

The leaders of all the mainstream congregations are become mad with politics and moving toward liberalism. It should be interesting to see how much longer "believing" Christians are willing to carry any denominational tag.
14 posted on 03/28/2003 5:14:14 AM PST by prudence
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To: Jaxter
Update: To answer somebody's question the decision was made by the administration at Asbury Theological Seminary, it was handled by the dean of the chapel. I have been bringing my little desk top flag and placing it on my table (as a few others have as well) I called in the local press to try and get this issue out to the general public so it isn't swept under the rug. Yesterday we had a good photo session with out american flags on the table. Campaign of resistence is still somewhat disorganized but steps have been made to resist the administration. I liked the suggestion of attacking them from the left to expose their absurdity. A campaign is also under way to organize protestors.
15 posted on 03/28/2003 7:57:19 AM PST by Reagan79 (Update at Asbury Seminary)
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To: Reagan79
I meant the photo session yesterday was with American flags brought to the cafeteria by a few students.
16 posted on 03/28/2003 8:00:27 AM PST by Reagan79 (Update at Asbury Seminary)
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To: bart99
presidents_office@asburyseminary.edu

Email the President and tell him you are outraged by the decision by the administration to remove U.S. flags in the dining hall.
17 posted on 03/28/2003 8:21:35 AM PST by Reagan79 (Update at Asbury Seminary)
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To: Reagan79
You should contact Fox News or the Washington Times to get national publicity for this.
18 posted on 03/28/2003 9:19:46 AM PST by simicyber
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To: simicyber
Fox News has been contacted as well as the Washington Times. Thanks for the suggestions. I have specifically sent messages to O'reilly and Sean Hannity at Fox News.
19 posted on 03/28/2003 10:01:14 AM PST by Reagan79 (Update at Asbury Seminary)
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To: Reagan79
My e-mail

Dear Sir,

In regards to your decision to remove American flags from the cafeteria tables; could you please send me the names and addresses of all of your current students so I may invite them to transfer to a seminary that is less hostile to the United States, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.

Thank you in advance,

W. Price

20 posted on 03/28/2003 11:12:14 AM PST by reflecting
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To: Reagan79
One of my pastors went to Asbury (of course this was before PC set it!) and he loved it there. I'm sorry to hear that.
21 posted on 03/28/2003 11:16:23 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: freepersup
I was a Methodist for 30 years and loved the people, but the hierarchy... I finally left when I moved back home and began to go to a non-denomination church that is growing by leaps and bounds. I was furious with the Methodists when they shut down the little church I used to attend, without even telling the small congregation they were going to do it, and sold the windows, the pulpit, the pews--and even the tin ceilings! I'm getting mad again just writing this down! A pox on 'em.
22 posted on 03/28/2003 11:19:46 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Reagan79
My mail to the address provided in your post was bounced back by the mailer daemon at Asbury. Could the President possibly put a "lock" on his mailbox for a few days, hoping the heat dies down??
23 posted on 03/28/2003 3:42:52 PM PST by Knute
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To: Knute
Yes that is quite possible because I know people who were able to email him earlier today. That is also very disturbing... The administration is working at all costs to sweep this under the rug and keep any outsiders from finding out about this PC scam.
24 posted on 03/28/2003 4:37:58 PM PST by Reagan79 (Update at Asbury Seminary)
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To: Reagan79
http://www.johnandkenshow.com/

or

http://www.kfi640.com

John and Ken are doing a radio show right now
about the city of Thousand Oaks, Calif., taking yellow ribbons down.

Write them a letter at their website!
and send a link to your topic here.

AM 640 KFI is a major station here in the Western States.

Show times: The show airs M-F 3 - 7pm PT
Radio call in number: 1-800-520-1kfi

Hope this helps!
25 posted on 03/28/2003 4:57:21 PM PST by Joy Angela
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To: Reagan79; All
Reagan79, I freeped the seminary!

Everyone, here's the website, just fill out their online feedback form and voice your displeasure with their policy!

http://www.ats.wilmore.ky.us/feedback.htm
26 posted on 03/28/2003 10:51:58 PM PST by FirstTomato ("In the end,We will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" M L King)
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To: Reagan79; Mudboy Slim; FBD; Landru; Happygal; goldilucky; Administrative Simplification; P8riot; ...
Everyone, meet my young friend, Reagan79, who recently joined FR and will be quite an asset.

The Sultan

27 posted on 03/29/2003 7:46:30 AM PST by sultan88 (Embedded FReeper)
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To: Reagan79; freepersup; sultan88; joanie-f; scholar
per poster "freepersup":

"Flee my child, before you are indoctrinated by the left. Your awakening, to this denomination's true colors, may be the silver lining to this outrageous, un-American, PC madness.
The UMC is not your friend- they are wolves in sheep's clothing. BEWARE... is to BE AWARE!"

You've recieved an important wakeup call -- it'd appear -- from a much higher power courtesy of this most revealing incident.
It is now incumbent upon you to act; because, forewarned *is* forearmed.

By permitting your conscious to be your guide.

...you'll never go wrong.

28 posted on 03/29/2003 8:57:47 AM PST by Landru
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To: prudence
You need to finda good Calvinist school. LOL!
29 posted on 03/29/2003 9:40:50 AM PST by P8riot (Looks like Deja Vu all over again)
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To: sultan88; Reagan79
Welcome to Free Republic, Reagan79, and it is a pleasure to meet you. We really do need some people on this board that make sense and I'm sure that by association with sultan88, you'll be quite an asset!

I'm going out for my birthday tonight to an old dining establishment that goes back to 1919.
30 posted on 03/29/2003 12:04:22 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: Reagan79
This sounds like a similiar incident that took place at a town in California. The City Hall ordered the removal of thousands of yellow ribbons from trees as it violated some city ordinance.




http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/878780/posts?page=34
31 posted on 03/29/2003 12:16:01 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: freepersup
Didn't the Council of Churches and the UMC pay for the lawyers to get Elian Gonzoles back to Cuba?
32 posted on 03/31/2003 1:53:20 PM PST by jgrubbs
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To: Reagan79
bump
33 posted on 03/31/2003 1:57:53 PM PST by octobersky
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