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MSNBC-Positive test for terror toxins in Iraq
MSNBC ^ | 4/04/03

Posted on 04/04/2003 6:15:44 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 04/04/2003 6:21:36 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Scarlet_Pimpernil
It's been really amazing to watch how some people are living in complete denial over on grex.cyberspace.org, a BBS I'm involved in.

I wonder what it will take, I have a sense that even finding cyanide and mustard gas in the river won't convince them.
51 posted on 04/04/2003 10:25:07 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: MrFred
Yes, I feel so much safer now. Thanks MSNBC I should watch you now day and night out of gratitude... Bwa ha ha ha ha
52 posted on 04/04/2003 10:38:15 AM PST by Minty
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To: MrFred
Its good to know that MSNBC is testing all the suspected toxic material for us. ?!?!?

Don't the know all toxic samples are to be sent to Tommy Daschle's office for analysis?

53 posted on 04/04/2003 1:42:30 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Open the pod bay door HAL.)
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To: arasina
Thanks for posting your comments. I thought it was a good thing as well since it is independent of the Government.
54 posted on 04/04/2003 6:05:22 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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To: buffyt
I have read that two thimbles full of ricin would be enough poison to kill all the people in a city the size of Houston, and there is no antidote. Is that correct?

As far as part one of the question, I can't say that that small a quantity could kill that many people, but it is correct to say that ricin is extremely toxic. It is the most lethal organic toxin known to man.

As to the second point of your question, yes, that is a fact, there is no known antidote to ricin, and it is so fast-acting, and difficult to detect, that getting an antidote in time would be problematical at best...

theinfowarrior

55 posted on 04/04/2003 9:46:55 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: jveritas
I haven't heard a thing since 2003 disproving this MSNBC report.

I wonder if anyone else has?

U.S. intelligence says the Sargat camp, shown here in a satellite photo taken before its destruction, was a "terrorist poison and explosives factory."

56 posted on 09/09/2007 7:10:19 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: All

I don’t know if the original URL still works. I found the article here this evening.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3070394/


57 posted on 09/09/2007 7:18:52 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr

Aww come on, they were growing castor plants and had a couple of spoiled cans of beans.
Big deal!
Remember the portable growth chambers Saddam bought from Germany?
All they wanted them for was making fresh beer on site for the Republican Guard.
/s


58 posted on 09/09/2007 7:38:51 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: april15Bendovr
Thanks for the ping Chris. I never seen this one before but it is yet another proof of Al Qaeda presence in Iraq during Saddam regime and that the terrorists were trained on WMD.
59 posted on 09/09/2007 7:40:39 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas
Proving once again that there is no no news that the MSM can't ignore -- even their own reporting -- if it happens to support the Bush administration.

What a truly despicable group of people!

60 posted on 09/09/2007 7:54:45 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Vinnie; jveritas
I never heard ricin or botulinum mentioned in this PBS article reported by David Kay.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wmd/interviews/kay.html

Interview with David Kay PBS Chasing Saddam’s Weapons

This news report must have fallen into a black hole somewhere?

61 posted on 09/09/2007 7:58:11 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr

MSNBC is nearly dead.


62 posted on 09/09/2007 8:03:49 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Allah is not Yahweh.)
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To: x_plus_one

Yes they are. We should give this a daily bump just for an old memory.


63 posted on 09/09/2007 8:06:39 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: april15Bendovr
I have no doubt that Saddam regime was actively working on producing the Precursors to make WMD in particular Chemical Weapons and that these Precursors and the equipments related to it are buried somewhere in the Anbar province.
64 posted on 09/09/2007 8:07:54 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: okie01

Absolutely true.


65 posted on 09/09/2007 8:08:44 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas

Ricin and Botulinum are mentioned in the text of the David Kay report to Congress

Text of Kay’s report

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/iraq/20031002-1830-kay-text.html


66 posted on 09/09/2007 8:20:11 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: x_plus_one
"MSNBC is nearly dead."

Doesn't Crazy Chris have a motto for exposing the truth?


67 posted on 09/09/2007 8:29:45 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: armymarinemom

We need to get a response from the abandonment from Iraq and ignore evidence Ron Paul crowd.


68 posted on 09/09/2007 8:37:05 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: kattracks; jveritas; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; ...
Well that link is now dead....

For today at least this link seems to work...thanks to Flopping Aces :

Positive test for terror toxins in Iraq

The Link to the Flopping aces item:

24 Jun 2008
MSNBC Confirms Pre-War Al Queda Camp in Iraq Tests Positive For Bio/Chem weapons

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Positive test for terror toxins in Iraq
Evidence of ricin, botulinum at Islamic militants’ camp
By EXCLUSIVE By Preston Mendenhall
MSNBC

Now, let’s face it…Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews aren’t gonna change their minds and suddenly face the reality that Saddam’s regime was willing to work with AQ groups, did work with AQ groups and leaders, and the threat of the so-called “Nexus of Evil” connection even existed.

Captured members of Al Queda groups from this same camp claim that they were assisted, trained, supplied, and funded by Saddam’s IIS as well as taking orders from Saddam’s IIS.

Captured documents confirm their claims.

Captured regime members confirm their claims.

Now even highly anti-war/pro-Democrat MSNBC confirms the claim itself.

Al Queda leaders confirm the claims (Zawahiri and Zarqawi specifically).

Why believe “Bush Lied”?  Because it’s easier to believe that the solution to today’s problems can be solved by changing a circle to a dot on a ballot than it is to face the real and scary threat as well as own up to the failures of the past.

69 posted on 06/24/2008 10:06:21 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All; backhoe; tubebender; blam
And in 2008 we have this tFR Thread:

Al Qaeda Document: Zarqawi Came to Iraq Before The War To Prepare The Fight Against U.S

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Al Qaeda document | March 16 2008 | jveritas

Posted on Sun 16 Mar 2008 02:49:59 PM PDT by jveritas

On February 17 2008, Al-Ekhlaas which is the largest terrorist forum on the internet published an Al Qaeda document that talks about the life of Abou Musaab Al Zarqawi and indicates that Zarqawi came to Iraq before the war to prepare the terrorist insurgency against the US troops. According to the document Zarqawi arrived to the Sunni areas in central Iraq. This document was written by one of Al Qaeda top leaders called “Saif Al Adel”.

There were many accounts about Zarqawi presence in Iraq before the war in particular in Northern Iraq with “Ansar Al Islam” an active Al Qaeda affiliated terrorist group that was present in the Kurdish areas of Iraq long before the war started. The document also proves that Ansar Al Islam helped Al Qaeda members establish themselves in Iraq before the war started.

The author of the document wrote that there were no relations between Saddam regime and Al Qaeda but this does not negate at all the most important fact that Al Qaeda was in Iraq before the war for the sole purpose of preparing for its most important front to fight the U.S and it is now in Iraq where Al Qaeda is suffering its most crushing defeat since its existence.

It is very important to note that despite the author of the document denial of a relationship between Saddam regime and Al Qaeda it does not mean that Saddam regime was not aware of Al Qaeda presence in Iraq. In fact the documents clearly points out that Zarqawi went to the Sunni areas in Central Iraq before the war and these areas were totally controlled and loyal to Saddam regime and it very hard to imagine that Zarqawi stayed and prepared his terrorist sleepers cells in these Sunni areas without the approval of Saddam regime.

El-Ekhlaas terrorist forum is a password protected so you cannot access the document unless you are registered there as a member.

Below is a partial translation of Al Qaeda document written by “Saif Al Adel”.

" We started the work and the contact with the leadership, and we began to support and help the leadership again, and this was our goal after we left Afghanistan. We began establishing the fighter groups. On one hand to return to Afghanistan and conduct planned operations there, and on the other hand we began to study the situation of the groups and bothers to find new places for them. After long discussions, brother Abou Mussab with his Palestinian and Jordanian companions decided to go to Iraq because of their dialects they can quickly mix and assimilate in the Iraqi society. Our analysis was that the Americans were going to make the mistake sooner or later to invade Iraq, that this invasion will lead to the fall of the regime, and that we should play an important role in the confrontation and resistance, and that this is our historical chance to establish the Islamic State who will have the biggest role in removing injustice and establish justice in this world allah willing. I was in agreement with brother Abou Mussab regarding this analysis. There were no relation between Al Qaeda and Saddam regime that is worth mentioning, as opposite to what the Americans are saying so they can create excuse and legal justifications according to their laws that they imposed on the world that is enslaved by the West, the Israelis and the Anglo-Saxons.

The plan was to have our brothers enter Iraq from the North, where the road is not controlled y the regime, and then go down South to the Sunni areas where we have some of our brothers. Also the brothers in “Ansar Al Islam” showed their willingness to give us any help to achieve this goal.

The Americans noticed that the Iranians were having a blind eye against our activities in Iran so they began a media attack against Iran accusing them of helping Al Qaeda and international terrorism. The steps taken by the Iranians had confused us and had caused 75% of our plans to fail. Many of our comrades were arrested. 80% of Abou Musaab Al Zarqawi group members were arrested. There should be a quick plan to arrange the escape of Zarqawi and the remaining of his group, the destination was Iraq and the route was the Northern borders between Iraq and Iran. The goal was to reach the Sunni areas in central Iraq and the beginning of the preparation to confront the US invasion and defeat it allah willing. The choice was not arbitrary but a studied one.

When he said goodbye to me leaving for Iraq, Abou Musaab has added a new dimension to his personality. This new dimension focused on punishing the Americans for the crimes that they committed in their bombing of Afghanistan and that he witnessed in his own eyes, the hate and hostility that Abou Mussab had for the Americans guaranteed to form new traits to Abou Musaab personality."

End of partial translation.

70 posted on 06/24/2008 10:11:03 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Thanks Ernest.

Positive test for terror toxins in Iraq
MSNBC.com | 04-04-03 | By Preston Mendenhall
Posted on 04/06/2003 9:53:02 AM PDT by kimmie7
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/886458/posts


71 posted on 06/24/2008 10:12:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: jveritas; FARS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; knighthawk; Marine_Uncle; SandRat; Steel Wolf; CAP; ...

NBC ping - that’s Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological.


72 posted on 06/24/2008 10:12:38 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Isolationism and pacifism: the soft underbelly of American freedom.)
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To: kattracks

This is clearly untrue. MSNBC’s own Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews have told us over and over again there are no chemical weapons in Iraq. The whole Iraq war was based on a lie, don’t you remember?

Therefore, to prove the truthfulness of their position, I recommend that both Keith and Chris should travel to Iraq to be immediately exposed to these so-called chemicals.

Their continued good health will prove once and for all that Bush Lied, People Died...

/satire


73 posted on 06/24/2008 10:51:15 AM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe (2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
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To: kattracks

Bioterrorism is their next weapon.

Next year I’m taking a class on this subject....how timely.


74 posted on 06/24/2008 3:13:01 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Jarhead2844; USMCWriter; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; ...

More here (per last ping) including translation of al Qaeda document.

Thank you, Ernest.


75 posted on 06/24/2008 3:56:48 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: elhombrelibre; Ernest_at_the_Beach; freema
Eventually it will become widespread known that the Intel was right from the beginning regarding Iraq's bio/chem/nuclear clandestine programs.
What gripes me is that so much the clowns in the L/MSM may now re-iterate on, was known from day one. But what the hell. Better late then never. It will shut the democrats lying mouths during a critical juncture in time.
I have a suspicion the L/MSM is going to turn against Body Odor, and just let things play out for McPain to get the vote.
There are to many hot issues that are not going to go away, and they don't want some half assed democrat to take the blame in eight years for not doing anything right.
76 posted on 06/24/2008 5:43:59 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now we are left with a bunch of idiots.)
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To: tallhappy

bump


77 posted on 06/24/2008 8:44:38 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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