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***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 28/16 APR 03 - LIVE THREAD***
Everywhere! | 16 APR 03 | An.American.Expatriate

Posted on 04/15/2003 9:04:00 PM PDT by null and void

Operation Iraqi Freedom


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Day 27

Good Morning.

This is the Daily Thread of Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - LIVE THREAD.

It is designed for general conversation about the events of the day. In depth discussion of events should be left to individual threads - but links to the threads or other articles is highly encouraged. This allows us to stay abreast of the situation in general, while also providing a means of obtaining specific information.

To all who helped this get started and keep it running, thank you!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: freedom; iraq; iraqifreedom; live; saddam; situationroom; victory
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To: cyncooper
You're right. No one I know needs to be reminded (except for my lib sister in-law, but she doesn't count), but I'm sure there are people who do. In fact, I'm positive I work with most of them.
781 posted on 04/16/2003 3:54:25 PM PDT by retrokitten (Go Flyers!! Go Tony!! Gary Thorne Sucks)
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To: cyncooper
This is all I want to see re. Clinton:

Conducting Foreign Relations Without Authority: The Logan Act

Abstract: The Logan Act was intended to prohibit United States citizens without authority from interfering in relations between the United States and foreign governments. There appear to have been no prosecutions under the Act in its almost 200 year history. However, there have been a number of judicial references to the Act, and it is not uncommon for it to be used as a political weapon. Although attempts have been made to repeal the Act, it remains law and at least a potential sanction to be used against anyone who without authority interferes in the foreign relations of the United States.

782 posted on 04/16/2003 3:54:35 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("They're either dead or they're running like Hell." -Gen. Tommy Franks re. Saddam's regime - Apr.11)
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To: retrokitten
Mort buys the "we protected oil but not artifacts" line.

Others slapping him upside the head (figuratively, of course).
783 posted on 04/16/2003 3:54:49 PM PDT by cyncooper (thousands of cheering Iraqis yelled, "America, America, America," and "Bush, Bush, Bush.")
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To: TigersEye
Don't dis dogs.
784 posted on 04/16/2003 3:55:22 PM PDT by null and void (Or Web Hubble...)
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To: null and void
Especially when she is clearly more of a horse face then a dog face girl.
785 posted on 04/16/2003 3:56:43 PM PDT by retrokitten (Go Flyers!! Go Tony!! Gary Thorne Sucks)
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To: umbagi
I got a look at "her", too.

I'll not say more....

LOL
786 posted on 04/16/2003 3:57:35 PM PDT by cyncooper (thousands of cheering Iraqis yelled, "America, America, America," and "Bush, Bush, Bush.")
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To: retrokitten
I think that the most compelling films would be the PFC Jessica Lynch story or the story of the other rescued POW's and those who rescued them. I think the story of Richard Engle, Pretty Chicken Live at the Palestine would by a rip roaring comedy!

Someone on Fox said there was already a title for the Jessica Lynch story. "I am an American soldier, Too." As to the Pretty Chicken story, I could not judge, because I am soooo sloooow I could not tie up the bandwidth with BagCam. I regret that a lot.

Jon

787 posted on 04/16/2003 3:57:36 PM PDT by Far Right Field
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To: not-an-ostrich
I'm not following what your complaint is--please expound upon it, please.
788 posted on 04/16/2003 3:58:14 PM PDT by cyncooper (thousands of cheering Iraqis yelled, "America, America, America," and "Bush, Bush, Bush.")
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To: Far Right Field
If the rescue of Jessica Lynch is made into a movie, it must include all of the details and not end with getting her on that helicopter. They must include the finding of the bodies of the others and the digging up with their hands and retrieving them so they could be brought home. It must. I would think a prominent part of the movie would cover the Iraqi lawyer, "Mohammad", who risked it all, and the Iraqi doctor that helped.

789 posted on 04/16/2003 4:04:10 PM PDT by cyncooper (thousands of cheering Iraqis yelled, "America, America, America," and "Bush, Bush, Bush.")
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To: Far Right Field
I would like to see this: A "Longest Day" sort of approach. One story line Pvts. Lynch and Piestewa. One of the journalists. A line of the race to Baghdad, either a tank or the 3rd LAR of the first Marines. A little bit of flying, and fighting in an Apache. Toss in a little of the Brits in Basra. And a vignette on how a coordinated bombing attack is made on a presidential palace. The only thing missing would be John Wayne as Gen. Tommy Franks.
790 posted on 04/16/2003 4:04:24 PM PDT by Air Force Born
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To: Far Right Field
If we didn't have a T1 line at work, I wouldn't have seen it either. I have dial-up and home and I would suffer withdrawl at night and on the weekends.

He was such a dope! Always whining because his hair wasn't right. Putting his vest on just for the camera. I always imagined him screaming like Ned Flanders (high pitched womans scream in case you're not a Simpsons fan) when the bombs were really dropping one Friday afternoon.
791 posted on 04/16/2003 4:04:34 PM PDT by retrokitten (Go Flyers!! Go Tony!! Gary Thorne Sucks)
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To: not-an-ostrich
I don't believe we had the 10,000 in the country that was rumoured. Maybe not even 100.

On what information do you base that conclusion? And why would Uday's house be of interest to them?

792 posted on 04/16/2003 4:06:53 PM PDT by Consort (Use only un-hyphenated words when posting.)
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To: not-an-ostrich
You're talking to the wrong person, n-a-o. I'm trusting the people at the top to handle this professionally and as deliberately as they have the rest of the operation. First comes securing the areas. While they've destroyed major combat capabilities of the regime, there are still pockets of resistance, many areas they haven't yet secured...that is the top priority. Next - taking out the regime leaders. When and where they find info, weapons, etc., they do send a site exploration team to investigate, tag info, etc., for further study later...remove where necessary. It is an ENORMOUS job. This is a big country with 3 decades worth of potential horrors to investigate.

Major Bob said today that our guys will be busier than ever now, as areas are secured and people come forward with information...it is very difficult and dangerous work.

If the newspeople uncover stuff...fine, it helps our guys. They have over 1000 sites they're investigating and more all the time. It will take years, but the regime is gone in a month. Our guys rock! To quote Rummy, "now is the time for patience."

793 posted on 04/16/2003 4:07:10 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("They're either dead or they're running like Hell." -Gen. Tommy Franks re. Saddam's regime - Apr.11)
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To: retrokitten; cyncooper
Compare Engle to David Bloom...this is from "The Corner" at nationalreview.com...

DAVID BLOOM'S LAST E-MAIL [Rod Dreher]
NBC reporter David Bloom, who died last week in Iraq, sent a final e-mail to his wife on the eve of his death. It was eerily prescient, almost an epitaph. David was a born-again Christian; a friend of mine who was in a men's prayer and Bible-study group with him says David was passionately devoted to his family and his God. That friend told me David's last e-mail was read aloud in a deeply moving Friday meeting with his prayer partners, at which a number of David's NBC colleagues were present. It was no surprise to those who knew David best, it seems, when he said in that communique (this taken from the MSNBC.com story): “[W]hen the moment comes in my life when you are talking about my last days, I am determined that you and others will say ‘he was devoted to his wife and children, he was admired, he gave every ounce of his being for those whom he cared most about… not himself, but God and his family.’"
794 posted on 04/16/2003 4:08:15 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (Desperately in search of a new tagline...)
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To: Consort
boy, the # of posts on these live threads has really slooooowwweed down.
795 posted on 04/16/2003 4:09:45 PM PDT by Capitalism2003
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To: Capitalism2003
We were suddenly confronted with the fact that we have lives. Depressing
796 posted on 04/16/2003 4:12:28 PM PDT by Air Force Born
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To: cyncooper
If the rescue of Jessica Lynch is made into a movie, it must include all of the details and not end with getting her on that helicopter. They must include the finding of the bodies of the others and the digging up with their hands and retrieving them so they could be brought home. It must. I would think a prominent part of the movie would cover the Iraqi lawyer, "Mohammad", who risked it all, and the Iraqi doctor that helped.

Yep. All of that and the feint attack that drew off the hospital defenders. In my amateur opinion it has Oscar potential anywhere except Wankerwood.

Jon

797 posted on 04/16/2003 4:14:28 PM PDT by Far Right Field
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To: redlipstick
There really is no comparison. It's like comparing Wal-Mart to Tiffany. Or Payless to Jimmy Choo. It's not even close in quality or content.
798 posted on 04/16/2003 4:14:35 PM PDT by retrokitten (Go Flyers!! Go Tony!! Gary Thorne Sucks)
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To: Air Force Born
I would like to take this time to publicly express my appreciation to General Tommy Franks, for finishing the war in time for me to get my new roses planted and my yard cleaned up.
799 posted on 04/16/2003 4:15:42 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Capitalism2003
The quality is still there.
800 posted on 04/16/2003 4:15:59 PM PDT by Consort (Use only un-hyphenated words when posting.)
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