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Catholic Church asks Tom Daschle to stop calling himself a Catholic
Weekly Standard (via Matt Drudge) ^ | April 17, 2003 | SB00

Posted on 04/17/2003 9:36:31 AM PDT by SB00

TOM DASCHLE may no longer call himself a Catholic. The Senate minority leader and the highest ranking Democrat in Washington has been sent a letter by his home diocese of Sioux Falls, sources in South Dakota have told The Weekly Standard, directing him to remove from his congressional biography and campaign documents all references to his standing as a member of the Catholic Church.

This isn't exactly excommunication--which is unnecessary, in any case, since Daschle made himself ineligible for communion almost 20 years ago with his divorce and remarriage to a Washington lobbyist. The directive from Sioux Falls' Bishop Robert Carlson is rather something less than excommunication--and, at the same time, something more: a declaration that Tom Daschle's religious identification constitutes, in technical Catholic vocabulary, a grave public scandal. He was brought up as a Catholic, and he may still be in some sort of genuine mental and spiritual relation to the Church. Who besides his confessor could say? But Daschle's consistent political opposition to Catholic teachings on moral issues--abortion, in particular--has made him such a problem for ordinary churchgoers that the Church must deny him the use of the word "Catholic."

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To: SB00
Tom Daschle's Duty to Be Morally Coherent
A Weekly Standard Exclusive: The Senate minority leader is ordered to stop calling himself a Catholic.
by J. Bottum
04/17/2003 12:00:00 PM


J. Bottum, Books & Arts editor

TOM DASCHLE may no longer call himself a Catholic. The Senate minority leader and the highest ranking Democrat in Washington has been sent a letter by his home diocese of Sioux Falls, sources in South Dakota have told The Weekly Standard, directing him to remove from his congressional biography and campaign documents all references to his standing as a member of the Catholic Church.

This isn't exactly excommunication--which is unnecessary, in any case, since Daschle made himself ineligible for communion almost 20 years ago with his divorce and remarriage to a Washington lobbyist. The directive from Sioux Falls' Bishop Robert Carlson is rather something less than excommunication--and, at the same time, something more: a declaration that Tom Daschle's religious identification constitutes, in technical Catholic vocabulary, a grave public scandal. He was brought up as a Catholic, and he may still be in some sort of genuine mental and spiritual relation to the Church. Who besides his confessor could say? But Daschle's consistent political opposition to Catholic teachings on moral issues--abortion, in particular--has made him such a problem for ordinary churchgoers that the Church must deny him the use of the word "Catholic."

Much of the discussion about Daschle's standing has gone on in private over the last few years, although Bishop Carlson and Senator Daschle had a very public spat about partial-birth abortion in 1997. During the run-up to a Senate vote on the issue, Daschle proposed what he called a "compromise," banning the procedure while allowing exemptions for any woman who claimed mental or physical health reasons for having such a late-term procedure. Pointing out the way the exemptions gutted the ban, Carlson called Daschle's proposed compromise a "smokescreen" designed solely to "provide cover for pro-abortion senators and President Clinton, who wanted to avoid a veto confrontation."

Daschle, in turn, rose on the floor of the Senate in Washington to denounce his own bishop back in South Dakota for speaking in a way "more identified with the radical right than with thoughtful religious leadership." Carlson later told the Sioux Falls Argus Leader that he remains mystified by Daschle's position on abortion. "NARAL claims him as one of their number-one supporters. I don't understand how he can be in touch with South Dakotans as much as he is, and yet consistently have a pro-abortion record."

This year, on January 16, Bishop Carlson received additional ammunition for his discussions with Daschle when Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger's office, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, issued in Rome a "Doctrinal Note" on Catholics in political life. "A well-formed Christian conscience," the note declared, "does not permit one to vote for a political program or an individual law which contradicts the fundamental contents of faith and morals."

The Doctrinal Note marks at least the beginning of the end of the Vatican's toleration of what the pope's biographer George Weigel has called "Cuomoism" in the American Church: the effort to finesse abortion by declaring oneself personally opposed but politically supportive of laws allowing abortion. Catholics have a "duty to be morally coherent," the Doctrinal Note declares, and the Catholic fight on the life issues--abortion, euthanasia, and cloning--is not some merely prudential question, to be decided by political give and take. The Catholic Church doesn't take political positions--except when politics intrudes into something, like the right to life, that ought to be beyond the power of politicians.

Bishop William Weigand of Sacramento was the first American bishop to use the new note from Rome. At a pro-life Mass on January 22, he spoke of California Governor Gray Davis's claim to be a "pro-choice Catholic." After describing the efforts by Davis's pastor to get the governor to see the moral incoherence of his position, Weigand declared, "As your bishop, I have to say clearly that anyone--politician or otherwise--who thinks it is acceptable for a Catholic to be pro-abortion is in very great error, puts his or her soul at risk, and is not in good standing with the Church. Such a person should have the integrity to acknowledge this and choose of his own volition to abstain from receiving Holy Communion until he has a change of heart." (Russ Lopez, a spokesman for Davis, responded with the hilarious and deeply revealing complaint that Bishop Weigand was "telling the faithful how to practice their faith." In Lopez's mind--as, indeed, in the minds of many--the promise of the separation of Church and state, in which no political figure gets to tell believers how to practice their faith, has turned into a need for the separation of Church and Church, in which not even a religious figure gets to tell believers how to practice their faith.)

There's quite a list of pro-abortion Catholics in Washington--beginning with Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic minority leader in the House--who could use similar instruction in "the duty to be morally coherent." Just in the Senate, there's Biden, Collins, Daschle, Dodd, Harkin, Kennedy, Kerry, Landrieu, Leahy, Mikulski, Murray, Reed, and more. But at least Tom Daschle has now been forced by Bishop Carlson to assume some responsibility for moral coherence--even if it is, unfortunately, a coherence achieved in the wrong direction.

The diocese in Sioux Falls would not say what brought the issue of Tom Daschle's Catholicism to a head at this moment, although one South Dakotan suggested it may have to do with Daschle's crossing of yet another line recently when he began direct fund-raising for NARAL. Senator Daschle's office has not yet responded to a request for comment. It's a serious thing when a bishop breaks a pastoral relation, no matter how tenuous that relation may have grown. But Bishop Carlson is right that the time has come to banish Cuomoism from American politics. This isn't a matter of favoring Republicans or Democrats. Regardless of their party, public figures who aren't going to oppose abortion shouldn't call themselves Catholic anymore.

A native of South Dakota, J. Bottum is Books & Arts editor of the Weekly Standard.


301 posted on 04/17/2003 3:26:53 PM PDT by Salvation ((†With God all things are possible.†))
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To: Torie
It would be one thing is the bishop had said that he does not consider Daschle to be Catholic. It is another for him to demand that Daschle comport his speech to the bishop's views.

Torie, what if a prominent, say, Muslim guy...went around eating bacon and pork chops and downing an abundance of liquor? Think he's still adheres to the Muslim faith? What these Senators are doing is trying to CHANGE the Catholic Church just like they do with the United States Constitution. There are tenets to the Catholic Church that one follows if that person is a MEMBER of the Church. The Bishop has every right to call for Daschle to remove references of Catholicism from his "campaign" or "record." His record of votes that are pro abortion are a total conflict with his "record" of being a supposed Catholic.

These senators (99% dems) can't cloak themselves in the historical goodness of all the Catholic Church represents while strongly opposing one of its most important tenents, the respect for life. They can do what they choose PERSONALLY, but as representatives of government their words have the power to influence many and cause the enactment of laws that are unprincipled. They further the hypocrisy when they complain about the pedophile priests hurting children while supporting the killing of thousands of children by abortion.

(Please don't misunderstand me...in NO way do I support the pedophile priests or condone the way the Church handled that situation. I just couldn't think of a better way to express what I was trying to say and that analogy seemed appropriate.)

302 posted on 04/17/2003 3:28:10 PM PDT by arasina ("Thank you Mister Bush!" [direct quote from liberated Iraqi man])
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To: RyeWhiskeyJoe
Rome and the Pope have never OKed communion in hand and the Pope has issued several papers against it

Untrue. The Pope personally dislikes the practice, but it is formally approved, by Rome, for many countries, including the US.

But it is true that it started as an abuse which was rather unfortunately "regularized".

303 posted on 04/17/2003 3:30:15 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Notwithstanding; Torie
The law recognizes that one does not have a free speech right to package a turd and sell it as a brownie.

Oh my. I just did an entire tirade to Torie and then scrolled down and read your much more succint explanation. LOL Good one!

304 posted on 04/17/2003 3:31:14 PM PDT by arasina ("Thank you Mister Bush!" [direct quote from liberated Iraqi man])
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To: CaptainJustice
Hahahaha Well, let that be a sign to anyone who says the catholic church won't clean up its act. Getting rid of Daschle is a start! ;)?

At least it's good PR.

305 posted on 04/17/2003 3:33:27 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
but he loved the popes view on the war

To speak up for the Pope, he grew up and was ordained in a communist country, and I am sure has a jaundiced view on any kind of military action.

306 posted on 04/17/2003 3:41:45 PM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: Protagoras
Perhaps we are not in agreement on what is meant by supporting the troops. I do not mean support in the form of a bumper sticker, a rally, or a flag decal. I mean support that is directly received by those in harm's way. Support is talking to my son, my employee, or one of my former students who are currently called to active duty in Iraq related missions. My employee left for Kuwait yesterday. We are corresponding regularly. I believe that if I were to criticize his military mission in my correspondence to him it would have a negative impact and therefore not be a form of support.

I will be away from a computer terminal for the rest of the day. I have enjoyed your thought provoking questions. May the Lord make real to you in a new way the marvelous thing He has done for us this Easter season.


307 posted on 04/17/2003 3:51:33 PM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737 (He is Risen!)
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To: SB00
Isn't it wrong to call it ``Cumoism?'' Am I wrong in thinking Geraldine Ferraro staked out this position?
308 posted on 04/17/2003 4:36:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
I believe Ted Kennedy staked out this position long before Geraldine
309 posted on 04/17/2003 4:44:15 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: Hacksaw
I am not dissing the pope its just funny they abhor the popes moral stance on things like abortion etc.. but when the pope is at odds with a repub president they embrace him. look at michael moore he doesnt have a moral bone in his body, but in his anti war drivel at the oscars who did he point to as being against the war? the pope. hey mikey he is also against killing unborn children how do you stand on that?
310 posted on 04/17/2003 4:57:10 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: RAT Patrol
Thanks for the ping. I am gratified and can only hope that the Bishop here in Ct does the same to Chris Dodd.
311 posted on 04/17/2003 5:05:57 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: kylaka
She is Jewish to the same extent as Daschle is Catholic.
312 posted on 04/17/2003 5:30:12 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: SB00
As a Catholic myself, I say hooray!! Daschle should not call himself a Catholic and I am glad that the church is telling him this.
313 posted on 04/17/2003 5:38:36 PM PDT by Patriot1
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To: wideawake
That's why the majority of the world's Jews lived and thrived in Catholic Europe from the days of the Roman Empire until the pagans invaded Poland in 1939.

I guess, you are speaking of the "majority" that remained after the rhose who were dead or converted.

Spain was "free of Jews" long before the Nazis. Even much earlier, in Gothic Spain, shortly before the Berber invasion, all Jews were order enslaved and propery confiscated --- striving, you say?

The Jews have not been seen in England for almost 400 years, having been explelled in (ca.) 1190. Sriving?

I could right a few-page-long list but, given that are, in fact well read, it'll serve no purpose. I am very surpsised by your statement, which is false in both fact and attribution.

314 posted on 04/17/2003 5:41:11 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: jwalsh07
The Pope should stay out of politics.For a real American- religion in politics is worse than Saddam Hussien dating your daughter.
315 posted on 04/17/2003 5:43:56 PM PDT by MrPeanut
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To: wideawake
Jews lived and thrived in Catholic Europe from the days of the Roman Empire

There are extimates, that the Jews would number 280-300 million if it were not for persistent decimation. It is true that many of them have died at the hands of te Nazi and communist pagans, that does not explain the diffference.

316 posted on 04/17/2003 5:44:33 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
"Jews lived and thrived in Catholic Europe from the days of the Roman Empire".....Yeh, as slaves...
317 posted on 04/17/2003 5:46:07 PM PDT by MrPeanut
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To: cpforlife.org
Yes, but. Did the Catholic Church ask the late Maureen Reagan Revell to stop calling herself a Catholic? Has it asked ex-Mayor Giuliani to stop using the term "Cathlolic"? Certainly, it has made no such demand on Sen. EMK or Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-RI. What about the Catholic bishops in LA "endorsing" Senator Landrieu (D)?
318 posted on 04/17/2003 5:49:39 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: MrPeanut
The Pope should stay out of politics.For a real American- religion in politics is worse than Saddam Hussien dating your daughter.

Kindly refrain from dragging my daughter into the conversation like you did the Pope.

Catholicism is the province of the Pope, the Bishops and the parish priests. It's a private club guaranteed their right to include or exclude as they see fit. That the pro abortionists happen to be politicians is coincident not causal for their being smacked down.

Comprende?

319 posted on 04/17/2003 5:51:12 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: nicmarlo
bump
320 posted on 04/17/2003 6:07:54 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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