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Liberal Methodist Leaders Call Bush to Repentance
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| April 17, 2003
| Jody Brown and Bill Fancher
Posted on 04/17/2003 2:30:22 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Cordova Belle
LOL...love your Pastor
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posted on
04/17/2003 3:35:13 PM PDT
by
Krodg
(We have the ability because the leader in command knows who's in control....God Bless America.)
To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Check it out. Check out the history. That's exactly why it was formed. Don't take my word for it.
Oh don't worry, I won't. If I had time to research every crackpot fantasy posted on FR, I'd go without food and sleep, and be none the wiser.
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posted on
04/17/2003 3:37:43 PM PDT
by
Belial
To: Dog Gone
Wonder why they saw no need to say such during other presidential terms.
Are they put here to be the judges for God?
I would suggest they worry about their own relationship to God and quit using God and his churches to try and control the actions of a president. Are they saying that God must operate as they see fit? What if God put George Bush here at this time for God's purposes?
83
posted on
04/17/2003 3:41:31 PM PDT
by
ClancyJ
To: Cordova Belle
I've never heard of the Christian Missionary Alliance or a Vineyard Church. Actually, I'm probably asking the question in the wrong way, anyway, since I'm burned out on all national and international churches. Far too much of tithes and offerings go to administrative overhead, and the career church bureaucrats seem to feather their own nests.
You see power struggles, and often a lot of politics. And don't get me started on the televangelists, who are milking a wonderful scam.
I'm sure there are wonderful unaffiliated neighborhood churches filled with good people. All I need to do is some legwork.
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posted on
04/17/2003 3:44:20 PM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: Belial
Why would a church want to advance an atheistic philosophy?During the Viet Nam War, many seminarys accepted any man who was interested, because the government still gave student deferments for going to divinity schools after 1968. They accepted any warm male body, even when that body held such minor opinions as not believing in God or believe church dogma or things like that. Many of these people went into the ministry, because they liked it, not because they had an actual calling, unless you counted being a Marxist a calling.
That is one reason why there are so many marxists in the denominations which opposed the Viet Nam War.
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posted on
04/17/2003 3:46:13 PM PDT
by
NathanR
To: Willie Green
Those several officials of the United Methodist Church need to repent to the Iraqi people.
86
posted on
04/17/2003 3:49:20 PM PDT
by
FreeRep
To: Dog Gone
I have been disgusted with the national ad campaign the Methodist Church has been running lately. Several ads claimed the United Methodist Church is open, open minded, open whatever, but of course, not open minded to President Bush's waging war to defend our country.
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posted on
04/17/2003 3:50:23 PM PDT
by
Lauratealeaf
(Iraqis say, Good, Very Good, Bush Good!)
To: Belial; Conservativegreatgrandma
The National Council of Churches does, indeed, have a history of supporting socialist movements.
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posted on
04/17/2003 3:52:49 PM PDT
by
kayak
(Pray for President Bush, our troops, and our nation!)
To: NathanR
That is one reason why there are so many marxists in the denominations which opposed the Viet Nam War.
Well, your response has nothing to do with the original conspiracy theory. Which was that that laundry list of churches formed with the express purpose of advancing Marxism.
You're proposing another tinfoil theory, which is that legions of Marxists joined churches to avoid military service, thus explaining the opposition of several churches to the Viet Nam War.
I find the simplest explanation is often the best. Most likely these churches opposed the war, since they believed it to be immoral. Any draft dodgers would be junior clergy members at best during this time...they would certainly not have the pull to influence the senior policy making decisions.
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posted on
04/17/2003 3:58:05 PM PDT
by
Belial
To: Dog Gone
Yes--a little legwork. Your community is bound to have a good local church. To answer the other thing:
The Christian Missionary Alliance Church was founded by Dr. A. B. Simpson, author of a number of classic Christian books. It's known as CMA for short. I'm not a member, but ran into a great number of excellent churches affiliated with them. It began strictly as an organization to support missionaries. As for The Vineyard, founded by John Wimber, headquartered in Anaheim, California, it's a great church too, that didn't start out to be a denomination, but Vineyard churches, planted by members of the original church there in Anaheim, began sprouting up all over. They still don't consider themselves a "denomination," so there is no overhead---just a home church there in Anaheim that helps get young churches started. The Vineyard came out of the Jesus Movement of the 60's and 70's.
Lastly, don't be too hard on organized churches. The Southern Baptists, for example, 11 million strong, don't spend a lot of money on national headquarters and overhead. And each church is an autonomous governing body.
In short--I hope you find a local group where you can experience the blessing of fellowship with fellow believers.
90
posted on
04/17/2003 3:58:05 PM PDT
by
Cordova Belle
("America is great because she is good. When America ceases to be good, she will cease to be great.")
To: Lady In Blue; Desdemona; Canticle_of_Deborah
Pharisee Alert
To: Willie Green
read later
To: Dutchgirl
United Methodist Women used funds for mission to lobby Bill Clinton to VETO the ban on partial birth abortion.What a waste of money...he would have done it anyway.
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To: goodnesswins
Looks like its really time to become a CATHOLIC in S. Dakota. There's an opening...
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posted on
04/17/2003 4:01:20 PM PDT
by
Northern Yankee
(Freedom.... needs a soldier !)
To: MEG33
This is not the Methodist Church of old.No it isn't, and it hasn't been for the last few decades. My godly grandparents were Methodists of the old type who still believed the bible is the inerrant, infallible, Word of God. If they were alive I know they would not still be in a UMC church. My deceased dad was raised in a bible believing Methodist church, but quite a few years ago he left his UMC church and joined a Baptist church when he couldn't take any more of the leftist, pacifist, globalist, one-world junk his denomination was preaching and teaching.
That isn't to say there are no true believers left in UMC churches. It's surprising that there are still many true born again, bible believing Christians who are members and pastors in UMC churches, but I personally know some who are still hanging in there. I just don't know why.
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posted on
04/17/2003 4:01:39 PM PDT
by
epow
To: kayak
The National Council of Churches does, indeed, have a history of supporting socialist movements.
That's just because religion is the opium of the masses.
97
posted on
04/17/2003 4:01:51 PM PDT
by
Belial
To: 4NOMOREGORE
No Offense to any practicing Methodist, but don't they condone homosexuality?
No worries, my friend. Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell will always be glad to step up and take your money, and boy do they hate homos.They will be glad to tell you how the NAACP was responsible for 9/11, and which Teletubby is gay.
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posted on
04/17/2003 4:05:41 PM PDT
by
Belial
To: Willie Green
Daniel 12Matthew 6
1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
...
To: Willie Green
So when are the liberals going to demand that the Radical Religious Left keep it's nose out of politics, as per the so-called seperation of church and state?
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