Posted on 04/25/2003 7:40:41 AM PDT by ex-Texan
If it gets to the point where it ravages China and India to his liking, it will be difficult to imagine that it will not reach here, with massive consequences
So they are going to start dropping FAE devices on villages to contain it ?
No, this is already a runaway in China.
By your logic the disease should have felled the Philadelphia Flyers. Let's get a grip, folks.
The outbreak in Toronto is traceable back to a single source and has not broken out of the original contact groups. The people who died are almost all elderly people with prior significant health conditions. Should people not travel to an American city during a bad flu outbreak when elderly folks are dying? Toronto is a huge city of 3 million people and significantly more walking traffic in the downtown than any U.S. city save NYC and maybe Chicago, and keep in mind downtown Toronto doesn't roll up the sidewalks at night like many U.S. cities. There have been no new cases identified outside the initial exposure group in the past week or so. Outside of the hospitals/clinics and a few panicky areas of the Chinese community north of the city you'd be hard pressed to see anyone wearing a mask.
The precautions being taken are extreme. A friend of mine is a PhD in immunology doing research at Sunnybrook Health Sciences...one of the hospitals that locked down their emergency ward. She's in a separate building with it's own ventilation system and the steps she has to go through upon entering and leaving the building are rigid, as they should be for precaution's sake.
People wonder why we had deaths here and none or few elsewhere (outside China). The reason might be that we were the first jump off point for the infection and it did look very much like a simple bad flu bug when first spotted, so yes some errors of judgement were made. The situation changed very rapidly though once the nature of the threat was realized, only a matter of days since the first cases appeared. This enabled Canadian health professionals, who are no slouches when it comes to bio research, to sound an international alarm and give other countries a heads up. No one knew what Legionnaires didease was when it first appeared, either, and it's effect was quite deadly. We're figuratively lucky that the first place in North America to get hit was a major metropolitan area with large numbers of research and teaching hospitals...if this would have occurred in my small home town on the other hand the situation may have been somewhat different.
As for the mutations, that is one thing that has med pros concerned, but the reason could be, according to my aforementioned friend, be easily explainable. If a corona virus were to splice with a common flu virus the effect could be like a random number generator inserted into the gene sequence. Troubling but not necessarily inconquerable.
Bottom line: Much of what has been reported in the media is little more than panicky scare hype. Chicken Little's everywhere. Quarantine IS working and previously healthy patients are recovering. Many foreign media types that have come to Toronto are finding the reality very different than they expected.
I don't mean to downplay the severity of the disease, and I do fear for what will happen in China and the third world if this thing gets out of hand. But even the CDC who has folks on the scene up here said the WHO announcement was over the edge. Personally, I'll trust the experts from CDC-Atlanta than some U.N. toadies on a panel in Geneva who didn't even talk to anyone locally before they came out with their travel warning. There is suspician that they were under pressure from China to make this move to take the focus away from Hong Kong and the mainland. This is not impossible...China is getting raked over the coals in east Asia by neighbors who are furious they sat on the problem for as long as they did, and then blatently lied when caught out.
Toronto is safe. I don't have SARS. I have the same condition my (Chinese) doctor has - SARRP - Severe Allergic Reaction to Panicky People.
Nice weekend all!
Nothing new under the sun ...
The first case is believed to be that of a 46-year-old man in Foshan; this goes back to Nov. 16, 2002. He has recovered. Here are links to two articles: Earliest Known SARS Case Stays Anonymous, and Tracing the Path of SARS: A Tale of Deadly Infection (which identifies him).
A peculiar coincidence is that Foshan is also where the Code Red Internet worm is thought to have originated.
If thing thing gets loose in some areas of India or Africa it could be devastating.
My biggest concern vis a vis the U.S. would be in the illegal immigrant communities in cities like LA. Someone gets infected but is afraid to seek help for fear of deportation, so they suffer through their "flu" at home. They cough and give it to friends/family. They begin to cough, and so on. Before you know it you have it spreading unchecked in areas populated by poor, in some cases illiterate folks who refuse to go to the hospital. Not good.
Not.
The virus first appeared in Guangdong province, the heart of China's economic engine. Their government is not keen on committing national economic suicide.
In the flu, etc., it is in the old and the infirmed,
those fighting devastating diseases, who succumb.
This is more serious. It effects workers. That is unusual.
Like the weaponized Anthrax and possibly West NileFever
one might reasonably take it very seriously.
I rarely ever go into even remotely tinfoil hat mode so I oughtta have earned ONE tinfoil hat theory....
Does anyone besides me get the feeling China is using the UNinspired media hysteria-hyping to round up political dissidents, who will then conveniently die of SARS? They don't all even have to be dissidents. I see a perfect way for good comrades to kill off competition.
Murdering dissidents under cover of the manufactured SARS scare will protect China from - in this instance - further accusations of crimes against humanity.
Merely pointing out some realities overlooked by the globalists.
Um....this class of virus jumps from animals to people every year. Pigs to people, to be precise, then drifts over the rest of the world in a yearly version (or versions, because sometimes there are two or three) generically termed Type (number here) Asian Flu.
The media hysteria hyping over this is getting on my nerves. I love the way the public just knows it's the plague now. We're all gonna die, just like with The Stand. When I go to Google News in the morning, I have to SEARCH for news about Iraq, Afghanistan, Galloway and Israel, for instance, because the headlines are all SARS, SARS, SARS, SARS.
West Nile mutates, and it killed a lot more people in North America than SARS has.
There are forms of the Asian flu with close to a 10% fatality rate? Explain...
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