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Bush always suspected Saddam was behind 9/11
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | April 27, 2003 | Con Coughlin

Posted on 04/26/2003 4:20:20 PM PDT by MadIvan

The revelation that Saddam Hussein's intelligence chiefs were seeking to establish links with Osama bin Laden's al-Qa'eda network is the first concrete proof that the dictator was colluding with the world's most ruthless terrorist operation.

The documents discovered yesterday by The Telegraph in the former headquarters of the Iraqi intelligence service, the Mukhabarat, will also reopen the debate about whether Saddam was directly involved in the September 11 terrorist attacks in New York and Washington.

The issue of Saddam's involvement has been a long-standing source of contention between London and Washington. In the days immediately following the attacks, President George W Bush confided to colleagues that he believed that Saddam was directly involved in the attacks. "He probably was behind this in the end," he said.

In his State of Union speech in January, Mr Bush made the case for confronting Iraq, saying: "Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qa'eda."

This belief has been the driving force behind Washington's determination to seek "regime change" in Baghdad, particularly after Colin Powell, the US Secretary of State, indicated in February that he had received intelligence reports that al-Qa'eda operatives had approached Iraq about co-operating on chemical and biological weapons.

Washington's insistence that Saddam had links with bin Laden was not reciprocated in London, where Tony Blair, acting on the advice he received from British intelligence, was more circumspect about the links.

During his appearance before a Commons select committee in January, Mr Blair said that while "there is some intelligence about loose links between al-Qa'eda and various people in Iraq", he was unaware of any evidence linking Saddam to September 11.

Until now, most of the evidence presented by Washington to prove the link between Saddam and al-Qa'eda has been inconclusive. In the weeks immediately after the September 11 attacks, the Bush administration was keen to draw attention to a report issued by the Czech Republic's interior ministry claiming that Mohamed Atta, the lead hijacker, had met an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague earlier that year. The report later turned out to be false.

Washington was similarly frustrated earlier this year when it claimed that an al-Qa'eda cell called al-Ansar al-Islam was operating in Iraq. It later transpired that the group was active in a region beyond Saddam's control.

The new documentation uncovered by The Telegraph, however, is the first concrete evidence to emerge to back up claims made by Mr Powell during his presentation to the United Nations Security Council. He said Iraqi intelligence had funded a number of terrorist training camps in Sudan in the 1990s which were used by al-Qa'eda.

During his presentation, Mr Powell said that al-Qa'eda had been working with Baghdad since the early 1990s after reaching an understanding that bin Laden would stop targeting Saddam's regime. "Ties were forged by secret, high-level intelligence contacts," he said.

"We know members of both organisations have met at least eight times at very senior levels since the early 1990s. In 1996 . . . bin Laden met with a senior Iraqi intelligence official in Khartoum, and later met with the director of the Iraqi intelligence service."

US officials also claimed that Saddam was particularly impressed by al-Qa'eda's 1998 terrorist attacks against the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and sent Iraqi intelligence officers to help train al-Qa'eda fighters in Afghanistan after bin Laden was forced to move his base there from Sudan.

The documents also give the lie to those who said that al-Qa'eda, the Islamic zealots, would have nothing to do with the brutally secular regime of Saddam. It appears that their shared hatreds - of America, of Saudi Arabia, of the West - outweighed such considerations.

"This discovery backs up everything we have heard about Baghdad's dealings with bin Laden," a Western intelligence official said last night. "It shows that Iraqi intelligence was desperate to form an alliance with al-Qa'eda. And if Saddam was working with bin Laden from the mid-1990s, that raises the question of whether he was involved in the 9/11 attacks."

Saddam himself always rigorously denied having any links with al-Qa'eda. During an interview with Tony Benn, the Left-wing former MP, in early January, Saddam said: "We have no relationship with al-Qa'eda." He added: "If we had a relationship with al-Qaeda and we believed in that relationship, we would not be ashamed to admit it."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 200304; 20030426; alqaeda; alqaedaandiraq; alqaedairaq; bush; bushdoctrineunfold; iraq; iraqalqaeda; iraqcornucopia; us; war; warlist
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To: arete
Your Al Qaeda s--- sandwich is up, and your WMD sandwich is on the grill. We'll be sure to ping you when your other order's ready....Would you like some French Fries wit 'dat?
41 posted on 04/26/2003 6:05:34 PM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: Dog Gone
Quit lying. Seriously. Our position, which remained unchanged, is that inspections would never work.

You guys are too funny. You are living the big lie and accusing everyone else of the offense. That's a real hoot.

The administration set up a fabricated WMD story and all the party loyalists and Bush-bots jumped on board. Now, they are madly scambling to find an emptly can of Raid in the local Baghdad garbage dump to prove themselves right. Things get curiousor and curiousor.

Richard W.

42 posted on 04/26/2003 6:12:47 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: arete
The administration set up a fabricated WMD story and all the party loyalists and Bush-bots jumped on board. Now, they are madly scambling to find an emptly can of Raid in the local Baghdad garbage dump to prove themselves right. Things get curiousor and curiousor.

I'm not willing to accept the opinions of a "person" who neither has any proof to back up their assertions, nor can spell "curiouser" correctly.

Ivan

43 posted on 04/26/2003 6:13:57 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
I'm still amazed that there have been people who doubted that all of the Islamic terrorists have been allies at some level all along.

Diversity Is Not Our Strength
Bill

44 posted on 04/26/2003 6:14:05 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: guitfiddlist
Your Al Qaeda s--- sandwich is up, and your WMD sandwich is on the grill. We'll be sure to ping you when your other order's ready....Would you like some French Fries wit 'dat?

On a scale of 10, I'll be generous and give you a 3 for originality, deep thought and an intelligent response. ROTFL!!

Richard W.

45 posted on 04/26/2003 6:16:35 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: Dog Gone
I'd just be happy if all these anti-war mealy-mouths would just admit that it's GWB that sticks in their crawl-not the war. They are really just anti-GWB. They still can't get over Florida. It's going to bite them badly.
46 posted on 04/26/2003 6:17:12 PM PDT by GOP_Proud
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To: arete
What you said is a lie. You can make fun of the post or you can address the facts.

You can't.

47 posted on 04/26/2003 6:19:43 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: arete
...Hope you have an appetite...

P.S. Your "ROTFL" at your own comment is quite a bit self-congratulatory and consequently in poor taste, but...to be expected from the likes of you.

48 posted on 04/26/2003 6:22:56 PM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: MadIvan
on the other hand, there was absolutely no reason for 9.11 to occur.

remember, the u.s. airlines cancelled the air marshall program because they thought it was too expensive?
49 posted on 04/26/2003 6:23:33 PM PDT by liberalnot
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To: MadIvan
I'm not willing to accept the opinions of a "person" who neither has any proof to back up their assertions, nor can spell "curiouser" correctly

Ivan, you have been a good sport for the most part. I think that you are wrong and you think I am wrong. But, when it comes to my spelling which at times leaves much to be desired I might add, I can only offer you this --

"And of course Alice herself ....... taking the time to explore and learn about her surroundings and ask questions. Curiousor and Curiousor ! The more she learnt the less she understood. Unafraid of anything. Meeting each new obstacle or hurdle with determination and strength. And questions ... always more questions from this bright eyed youngster ... A symbol of all that we once were."

Here's the link for you. Nice read. Lighten up.

Alice In Wonderland: Revisited

Richard W.

50 posted on 04/26/2003 6:29:31 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: arete
So what DID happen to the thousands of litres of chemical agents Iraq was proven to have? Oh, they just destroyed it without so much as a back of the envelope scribble about the disposal. Scout's honor. Yeah right. In a land where they keep track of exactly how many bullets they put into the head of anybody who breathed a word of protest against Saddam.

If only liberals - and liberals only - could be consigned to the retarded hell they would create....

51 posted on 04/26/2003 6:29:47 PM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: arete
Ivan, you have been a good sport for the most part. I think that you are wrong and you think I am wrong.

I don't think you are wrong. I KNOW you are wrong. What is worse is that to adhere to your position in light of the facts is morally unacceptable.

But, when it comes to my spelling which at times leaves much to be desired I might add, I can only offer you this --

Which is a spelling that is not consistent across many editions. Type my spelling into Google - you will find that it is the present, accepted spelling.

Ivan

52 posted on 04/26/2003 6:35:24 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: guitfiddlist
If only liberals - and liberals only - could be consigned to the retarded hell they would create....

Man, you guys are really angry and upset about not being able to find those WMD's, aren't you? So big deal. You got taken in. Put some ice on it already.

Richard W.

53 posted on 04/26/2003 6:38:15 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: arete
No, I think people are upset with a liar with an agenda.

Now, go post another story from some obscure website about how bad the economy is. It's what you do best.

54 posted on 04/26/2003 6:44:54 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: MadIvan
What is worse is that to adhere to your position in light of the facts is morally unacceptable.

You are the one living a lie so how can you be making moral judgements. You may like to think of yourself as morally superior, but that's is more of a personal problem.

Which is a spelling that is not consistent across many editions. Type my spelling into Google - you will find that it is the present, accepted spelling

You're not a literary person are you? -- as I expected. LOL

Richard W.

55 posted on 04/26/2003 6:47:09 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: GOP_Proud
I must have been on another planet when the discussions leading up to the Iraq attack were taking place. I thought I heard distinctly that different administration officials stated that Iraq had WMD's and we had to protect ourselves by invading Iraq and ridding Iraq of them before they used them on us. I never dreamed that I was being lied to because I figured that nobody would do this in order to con the people into a war under false pretenses. It now appears that this can possibly be the case.

There is an intense effort to find a WMD. If not found soon, the credibility of the US is going to be damaged beyond repair. I have been a suspect of the truthfulness of the average politician but this is over the edge if we were lied to. We have 159 young people and 20 billion expended up to date. If this WMD is a hoax, the backlash will be terrific.

56 posted on 04/26/2003 6:50:44 PM PDT by meenie
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To: Dog Gone
I think people are upset with a liar with an agenda.

Yeah yeah yeah, I know -- follow the party line and don't ask difficult questions or the bots and zombies will call you a liar or some other juvenile name. Nothing changes.

Richard W.

57 posted on 04/26/2003 6:55:46 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: arete
We kept telling Blix, "They're right under your nose. You must be blind."

It's not about difficult questions. It's about deliberate lies.

But you're right, nothing changes.

58 posted on 04/26/2003 7:01:28 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: meenie
If you dare point things like that out, you are asking to get trashed around here. The thought and free speech police are out in full force today. They're getting highly defensive about those WMD not being found.

Richard W.

59 posted on 04/26/2003 7:03:16 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: arete
Have you forgotten that he used them on his own people? Do you seriously think he shot his wad on the Kurds?

We're looking for a needle in a haystack. It doesn't mean the needle isn't there it's just hard to find.
60 posted on 04/26/2003 7:16:58 PM PDT by killermosquito
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