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Two Judges Face the Heat [Estrada - Owen]
Roll Call via National Republican Senatorial Committee ^ | 4-28-03 | Roll Call - Mark Preston and Paul Kane

Posted on 04/28/2003 11:15:02 AM PDT by deport

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Two Judges Face the Heat
Excerpts from Roll Call; April 28, 2003

Senate Republicans are expected to try to force votes on two of President Bush’s top judicial picks this week, testing Democratic will to maintain simultaneous filibusters and likely imperiling working relations between the two parties for the foreseeable future.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) is expected to seek confirmation votes on Miguel Estrada and Priscilla Owen as early as Wednesday, a one-two political punch designed to highlight Democratic opposition to the GOP’s minority and women judicial candidates.

“The only way we can get traction on this issue is a sustained effort to focus our members, the press and our constituencies on it,” said a GOP leadership aide. “If that takes moving forward on a number of judges concurrently to sustain attention that is what we will do.”

But Democrats vow to dig in and continue to block confirmation votes on each nominee, citing the White House’s refusal to release memos from Estrada’s days as a Justice Department lawyer and their outright opposition to Owen’s nomination.

Even as they stall Estrada’s nomination, Democrats said they will call on Frist to immediately call up the nomination of Edward Prado, a Hispanic that Bush nominated to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Feb. 6. Prado was reported out of committee on April 3 without any dissent from Democrats.

Ranit Schmelzer, a spokeswoman for Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), said Friday that Daschle informed Frist prior to adjourning for recess that “he could go along and bring [Prado] up because he would pass.” Frist did not bring Prado’s nomination up for a floor vote, and he remains on the Senate calendar ready for a vote…

…But Frist said in an April 11 interview that he was not going to allow Democrats to set the legislative agenda and determine the judicial voting schedule.

“I’m not going to let them cherry pick, then filibuster groups of people and not give me some time agreements [on final votes],” Frist said.

The Majority Leader also dismissed chatter that he was holding back Prado’s nomination to score political points against the Democrats.

“As people come to the executive calendar, those that are nominated by the president, I am going to try to take them just one by one and I tried to do that [before recess],” Frist said. “They won’t give me unanimous consent time agreements on any of them.

“This element of obstruction, that is not even frustrating to me — it is just a matter of fact,” Frist added.

So far, Democrats have successfully defeated several cloture votes on Estrada, who was renominated by Bush to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit on Jan. 7 after his nomination languished in the Democratically controlled Judiciary Committee in the 107th Congress. But it would be the first time the Senate, as a whole body, would have an opportunity to vote on Owen, whom the president has nominated to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

Bush originally picked Owen for the lifetime judicial appointment in the 107th Congress, but her nomination was defeated on party lines in committee last fall. She was renominated Jan. 7 and approved under Republican rule along a party-line vote on March 27.

Democratic-aligned interest groups have planned a Thursday rally to denounce Owen’s nomination.

On Monday and Tuesday, opponents will hold news conferences to condemn another one of Bush’s judicial nominees, Jeffrey Sutton, seeking a seat on the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. He, too, was originally nominated in 2001 by Bush for the Circuit Court. Sutton, as a private lawyer, has argued cases against the Americans with Disabilities Act, invoking strong feelings from several Senators and disabled Americans.

Despite strong opposition to Sutton from some within the Democratic Caucus, the Senate’s leading liberal acknowledged that Sutton would likely be confirmed when the Senate votes on his nomination Tuesday.

“I would expect that he would pass,” Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.), a senior member of the Judiciary Committee, said during a domestic policy briefing with reporters last week.

Kennedy, however, said there was near unanimity among Democrats to oppose Owen, adding that he couldn’t recall a single Democratic Senator speaking out in favor of her nomination during Caucus meetings before the recess.

As for Estrada, Schmelzer said that “Democrats have made their position on Judge Estrada very clear. They asked for additional documentation, and the White House refuses to turn over that documentation.”

For Democrats to sustain filibusters on both Estrada and Owen, they must ensure that only 59 Senators support each nominee.

A Republican Judiciary aide said there is a question of whether it is “unconstitutional” to force a judicial nominee to achieve a “supermajority” of 60 votes, as Democrats are requiring in these two cases, to win approval.

Still, the GOP aide predicted it is a political miscalculation on Democrats’ part to sustain a double filibuster.

“If one party is saying that you must think a certain way for us to value you as a member of our party, that is a political risk the Democrats are willing to make and we are happy to invite that,” said the aide.

… (A) senior Democratic aide said party leaders are not worried about the decision to filibuster Estrada and Owen.

“That party does not have a great deal of credibility with minorities,” the aide said.

But the aide acknowledged a judicial fight on these two nominees this week could result in long-term negative consequences.

“What happens [this] week undoubtedly will raise us to another level,” said the aide, referring to existing bitter relations between both parties.

A GOP aide agreed that failure to reach agreement on these two nominees soon is likely to result in a “serious meltdown” in the Senate chamber.

Roll Call



TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: confirmation; estrada; judicialcrisis; nominations; owen
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To: Howlin
Did they say what time tomorrow?


at some point this evening they should post a schedule for tomorrow on the Senate web site
41 posted on 04/28/2003 3:50:24 PM PDT by deport (Beware of Idiots bearing gifts.... They maybe the FR Joke)
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To: Mo1
Oh yes, I think they can debate this issue just as they have been. I meant, if they went 24/7, the Dems will use that against them by saying that the Republican senate is interested in only tax cuts for the rich and extremist judges while the economy and health care suffer. On the other hand, come election time, it would be interesting to for the Republicans to be able to say that x number of times the Senate obstructed votes on nominees that would have been confirmed had the entire Senate been allowed to vote.

This is a delicate game that's going on. The Republicans can't muscle their way through, but they can't be out muscled by the minority either. They need to keep it alive and make the Dems pay at some point. The truth is that Bush needs to make good on and associate himself with issues that will get him a second term...then he will have 4 years to work on the courts.
42 posted on 04/28/2003 3:53:04 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: deport
So far the Dems make it look like Estrada is stonewalling. Why can't the GOP point out that there is such a thing as the 6th Ammendment, even if the Dems have never heard of it.
43 posted on 04/28/2003 3:59:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
Let them deny cloture on four or five Bush judges and by the end of next year just keep bringing them to the floor over and over in rotation so that is all that's going on. All the while harp on ONE PHRASE..."The Democrats in the Senate will not give the President's nominees a fair up or down vote."
45 posted on 04/28/2003 5:08:22 PM PDT by ez (...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.)
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To: deport
The democrats are terrified of judges who will read and rule by law and respect the United States Constitution. They would rather have a Janet Reno who will circumvent the law and rule from the bench as all socialist judges are doing. The Ninth Circuit Judges should all be removed from the bench for using non-legal transgressions to support their biased and often lawless points of view.

Phone or fax Senator Frist, turn the heat up to hold a REAL FILIBUSTER i.e., everyone who is against the nominees, make them stay until they drop – no week-ends and no recesses just stand there and filibuster. If it is proved unconstitutional, then declare it so. Either a supermajority is constitutional or it isn’t; Frist should demand the constitutional one.

46 posted on 04/28/2003 6:35:08 PM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe
It maybe that there will be some four or more that are being denied an up/down vote in the Senate if this keeps going.... We may have Estrada, Owen, Pickering for sure and then maybe another one or two. If that turns out to be the case then it will make for good campaign fodder in a few months....

I have no idea where the Republicans are heading and what their strategy will be.
47 posted on 04/28/2003 7:25:30 PM PDT by deport (Beware of Idiots bearing gifts.... They maybe the FR Joke)
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To: deport
BUMP for later
48 posted on 04/28/2003 8:17:06 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Prayers for all)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
great source of articles.

how do you link articles with titles to a post?
49 posted on 04/29/2003 9:08:42 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: SandyInSeattle
ping me to any live filibuster threads!
50 posted on 04/29/2003 9:09:16 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: DED
I have never heard of Prado...is a lib/moderate?

This bears repeating:
The Dems want Prado brought up so they can confirm him and get the Hispanic lobbies off their back as they continue to block Estrada.

Estrada FIRST. Then we'll talk.
51 posted on 04/29/2003 9:11:16 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: Dolphy
I hope Freepers understand that it may be in Bush's best hands to "sit" on Estrada until say October 2004 (Sept '04 is national security month) and than in October, oh yeah, Tommy Daschle won't let Estrada have a vote!

Still, we need to keep pressure on the Senate both GOP and Dem to support Estrada.
52 posted on 04/29/2003 9:13:08 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: votelife
Sutton is being voted on at this moment........
53 posted on 04/29/2003 9:14:19 AM PDT by deport (Beware of Idiots bearing gifts.... One maybe the FR Joke)
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To: deport
I'd guess Sutton would get about 55 votes...
Great he's being obstructed. Now the Dems are letting a conservative white through, but the conservative Hispanic will just have to go to the back of the line!
54 posted on 04/29/2003 9:15:41 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: deport
This article says Bush should appoint Bork as a recess appt to the Supremes if the need arises to get the Dems to back down!

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-barnett042903.asp
55 posted on 04/29/2003 9:30:38 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: votelife
I can't claim to know much about him, other than he's Hispanic and the Dems are willing to confirm him. A bio and resume are found on this site: http://www.usdoj.gov/olp/prado.htm
I have been referring back to a site that had very lengthy commentary on the history of the various controversial (according to Senate Democrats) cases by nominee, but now I can't find it. It was something like judicialnominations.org, if you have an idea what I'm thinking of, please give me a URL. I've already tried google, with no success.
56 posted on 04/29/2003 9:41:53 AM PDT by DED (Liberals Never Learn. *LNL*)
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To: DED
I'm just guessing that they like him bc he's not conservative or they don't view him as a threat or something like that.
57 posted on 04/29/2003 9:44:52 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: deport
Sutton is confirmed by the Senate

Yeas……52
Nays….. 41

58 posted on 04/29/2003 9:45:19 AM PDT by deport (Beware of Idiots bearing gifts.... One maybe the FR Joke)
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To: deport
looks like some key Dems didn't want to go on record so they can have it both ways.
59 posted on 04/29/2003 9:50:51 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: deport
roll call?
60 posted on 04/29/2003 9:54:18 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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