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Americans Marry Russian Women. What For?
Pravda ^ | April 29, 2003 | Olga Blagodarova

Posted on 04/30/2003 3:51:12 AM PDT by WaterDragon

American men use Russian women for self-affirmation. The latter seem to be liking this fact

Marriages between Russian women and American men are very successful and harmonious, Olga Makhovskaya, the senior research assistant at the Psychology Institute in Russia's Academy of Sciences says. When an American man switches from the model of American family where husband and wife are partners equal in rights to the model of an Orthodox family, he thus raises his own significance. In Orthodox families men are given more authority and are more respected. It is certainly an advantage for a man and raises his social and psychological status. In a word, American men seem to have tired of the feminism propagated by American women, and it is frequent that they seek Russian women to start families.

Russian wives in America give up the traditional model of the Russian Orthodox family which relieves them of a heavy burden of responsibility and gives a chance to have a normal life in a family where the range of responsibilities is more definite for them: children, family affairs and housekeeping. At that, Russian women enjoy more attention and support from husbands.

As psychologists say, now Russian men undervalue the essence of family. The whole of the burden, housekeeping, upbringing of children, earning of money are shifted onto women. And, at the time when Russian women have so much responsibilities, their husbands spend their time dozing in front of TV sets in desperate attempts to find out the meaning of life and to understand the truth of the universe. They merely disregard everyday problems that are essential for their families as they consider the above mentioned idle thinking to be of higher importance.

That is why, as Olga Makhovskaya thinks relations in families between Russian and American partners are more harmonious. Each party gets what it wants to have. Husbands get authority and status, and wives are given, in exchange, peace in family and well-being. "Families of this kind where husbands are Americans and women are Russians prove to be long-living, as the roles in the family are clearly distributed and the mechanism operates good, although these are mixed families. In such families each of the couple is ready to make concessions and on the whole, wonderfully performs the role."

In addition, as researches held by Olga Makhovskaya reveal, marriages between Chinese men and Russian women are also very successful. ?There are tens of thousands of such marriages in Russia's Primorye region in the Far East. Chinese men are hard-working, they don't abuse in alcohol drinking and bring their wages home. In a word, they have lots of advantages by contrast with Russian men." It is sad, but the researches don't mention for whom Russian men suit wonderfully.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: maledominant; marriage; psychology; roles; russia; russianorthodox
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To: Truthsearcher
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221 posted on 05/05/2004 3:51:41 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: HitmanNY
C'mon, don't post that stuff. Goofball
222 posted on 05/05/2004 4:04:21 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
The two guys I know are perfectly happy, as are their wives. And God bless 'em for that.

I agree. God bless them. Now me? I went to the Philippines for mine. I made a good choice too.

223 posted on 05/05/2004 4:17:40 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: WaterDragon
Because of academic feminism's influence on young girls, lots of American women have grown up to be mediocre and litigious whiners. This makes dating a lot like aversion therapy if the girl you just shagged takes terms like “heterosexism” seriously. If women with feminist sensibilities identified themselves somehow, like enemy combatants in war, American women would be a lot more fun to meet.

While all moral men are against sex trafficking, which often manifests itself through mail-order bride services, I support any decent guy who finds himself embracing a Russian beauty. In general, Russian women are more pragmatic, have a more realistic concept of American culture, and a better grasp of U.S. history than American women do. Also, Russian women are HOT!
224 posted on 05/05/2004 4:31:27 PM PDT by Afghan Whig
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To: Monty22
It's a joke. While the website is real, its one of the funniest things I have ever read.
225 posted on 05/05/2004 5:23:07 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
SIGH!--

NOT "Funny,""--SAD!!

Doc

226 posted on 05/05/2004 5:37:20 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: rintense
I will add that to my list
227 posted on 05/06/2004 3:21:30 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Oberon
Many Americans are so obsessed with things they place their families second in the pursuit of less important things. This is the reason for a lot of divorce in this country I think.
228 posted on 05/06/2004 11:24:59 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: 1234
guys are likely seeking a 'northern european' look

A lot of northern Europeans settled in the southern half of South America -- Scot, English, German, etc. Also northern Italians and some Spanish can be quite fair.

229 posted on 05/10/2004 3:49:23 PM PDT by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: Freebird Forever
I'd appreciate it if you could expand on this thought.

We are dealing with generalities here, so it goes without saying that my comments will not apply to a specific case. I think Russia is generally a matriarchial society; at home, the women are in charge. I say this based upon knowing many Russian couples here in the US and my involvement in the Orthodox church. Its kind of humorous, but most of the Russian priests I know defer to their wives in almost all aspects of home life.

Other things to consider are the raising of children. If the Russian wife is Orthodox and religious, she will insist (correctly) that the children be baptised and raised in the Orthodox church. It would be a good idea in this case for the husband to convert to Orthodoxy and raise the children in a household of one faith. Pulling children in two dirctions of different faiths is not a good idea. Also, in the Orthodox church, marriage is a sacrement; a spiritual bond that cannot be broken. So if you are married in the Orthodox church, be advised that divorce is not an option. This is of course a very different approach to marriage than American secular society.

We Americans are egalitarian. We think all men are created equal. In my opinion, Russians do not think this way. Rather, they view a boss-subordinate relationship as the natural order of things. Some have put it rather crudely that Russians have to have an ass to kiss and an ass to kick. This characteristic is manifest in Russian political dynamics, where the central government has a great deal of power and authority (and of course corruption).

You should also give some thought to logistics. Does she have a family in Russia? If so, she will want to visit her family and possibly bring them over here. A few trips here and there and you are starting to add up the money.

Hope this helps,

Regards,

230 posted on 05/13/2004 8:07:40 AM PDT by OldCorps
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To: PJ-Comix
The weirdest thing is how almost all males avoid female comedians even if they are attractive. I was at a comedy club once and some good looking female comedian mentioned how when she is out on the club circuit, she can NEVER get a date. It was one of those revelations that I realized was so true. For some reason most guys would never consider dating a female comedian, no matter how attractive. I used to know a very attractive Australian female comedian but never considered hitting on her. Why? I'm not sure but it must have been because she was a comedian. For some reason guys just aren't comfortable being socially involved with female comedians. Can anybody figure that out?

...might it be because comediennes joke about men as part of their acts?
231 posted on 04/01/2006 1:47:24 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: WaterDragon

In a word, American men seem to have tired of the feminism propagated by American women
________

ya think so?


232 posted on 04/01/2006 1:54:42 AM PST by teldon30 (Far right, elitist, sexist, cynical religious bigot and looter)
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To: Centurion2000
Divorce rate for American man to american woman marriages : 50+%

Divorce rate for American man to Russian Women : 20%

I'll take those odds in a heartbeat.


Don't forget another vital statistic...Percentages of divorces in the United States filed by women: 75%-80%. Percentages of divorces in the United States filed by men: 20%-25%.
233 posted on 04/01/2006 1:56:23 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: OldCorps
5. Marriage in the Orthodox church comes down to two basic admonitions from St. Paul: a. Women, obey your husbands. b. Men, honor and love your wives. 6. If the woman you are interested in is somewhat religious and wants to go to a Russian Orthodox (real one, not the commie fake) you should probably get to know something about the faith before getting married.

You make them sound like the Catholic girls from my mother's generation (who are sadly MIA from mine...).
234 posted on 04/01/2006 2:01:40 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: ASA Vet

I was told that on FR once....it ticked me off...but now i know wher comments like that come from :)


235 posted on 04/01/2006 2:04:58 AM PST by teldon30 (Far right, elitist, sexist, cynical religious bigot and looter)
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To: Old_Mil
Most of those men wanting a foreign bride through Internet or from foreign bars are losers who in their delusions think they are quite a hunk

When we first moved to Asia, I quickly dubbed the country we were living in 'Ugly Men's Paradise'. It's just unnatural! From my observations the problem is not that these men can't find conservative women at home, they are just so shallow that they want a perfect doll woman on their arm and their chances of getting that at home are slim to none. I don't think American women are missing out on much by these guys being taken off the market by Asian women.

236 posted on 04/01/2006 3:16:57 AM PST by Elyse
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To: cyborg

"If you search FR there was a thread on a study of why West Indian and African blacks score higher on 'biased tests' and seem to fare 'better' than many black Americans."

I noticed the same degree of social separation between black Americans and those from Africa and the West Indies while I was at New Jersey Institute of Technoloogy (in the Central Ward of Newark) 1975-1979. The latter just could not make sense of the former "culture", and most did not buy into it. Most hung on to a lot of "British Empirisms."


237 posted on 04/01/2006 4:02:33 AM PST by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: WaterDragon
(before reading)

For...nookski?

238 posted on 04/01/2006 4:04:40 AM PST by ExGeeEye (All Hail the Great Folger, creator of hot brown goodness.)
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To: lowbridge

Got any Russian Bride scams to go with the Nigerian business deals?


239 posted on 04/01/2006 4:10:39 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: Elyse
I don't think American women are missing out on much by these guys being taken off the market by Asian women.

You gave me my first FR morning laugh! Thats a very funny line.

240 posted on 04/01/2006 4:21:55 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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