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Human rights law passed- Gays, lesbians get protection
Cincinnati Post ^
| April 30, 2003
| Mike Rutledge
Posted on 04/30/2003 6:50:25 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: Laurie S
No, they didn't. And they still don't. Gays and lesbians are second class citizens in this country, unfortunately. They aren't allowed to marry. They can get fired from their jobs if their boss find out their gay. They can get evicted from their apartment for the same reason. It's all about the boss's or landlord's religious beliefs. However, you don't see heterosexuals getting fired for being 'outed' as straight. Yes they have always had human rights and still do. They are not second class citizens, that may be their perception based on their actions but that argument doesn't hold water. An employer should be able to employ whomever he wants if it's a private business, his decisions may affect his business bottom line but that is his business, same goes for the landlord. As far as the marriage question goes, Merriam-Webster defines it as:
1 a : the state of being married b : the mutual relation of husband and wife : WEDLOCK c : the institution whereby men and women are joined in a special kind of social and legal dependence for the purpose of founding and maintaining a family
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posted on
04/30/2003 8:18:14 AM PDT
by
ladtx
("...the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." D. MacArthur)
To: new cruelty
Gays are now listed on the Endangered Species List.
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posted on
04/30/2003 8:21:09 AM PDT
by
<1/1,000,000th%
(If they're both gay and lesbian, are they straight??)
To: Laurie S
For your information....housing and jobs are not human rights. If that's the case, I've been deprived of mine.
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posted on
04/30/2003 8:21:35 AM PDT
by
jhw61
To: Laurie S
No, they didn't. And they still don't. Gays and lesbians are second class citizens in this country, unfortunately. They aren't allowed to marry. They can get fired from their jobs if their boss find out their gay. Are you ill-informed or just pretending to be? Homosexauls are as free to marry as anyone else. They just have to marry a person of the opposite sex, just as everyone else does when they marry. And in most places in the US it is illegal to fire someone because they are homosexual. Damn, in Californina now it is illegal to fire someone or not hire them even if they are a cross dresser or transvestite!
To: Laurie S
They can get fired from their jobs if their boss find out their gay. They can get evicted from their apartment for the same reason. It's all about the boss's or landlord's religious beliefs. I wish that were true, for that would mean we were living in a free country.
To: pram
"They just have to marry a person of the opposite sex, just as everyone else does when they marry"
That sure is a bury-your-head-in-the-sand argument. LOL!
That's like saying if there was a law outlawing white people to marry eachother and you saying "it's ok. You can marry just like anyone else. Just marry someone who's black, asian.. anyone other than another white person." How funny! :)
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posted on
04/30/2003 8:32:08 AM PDT
by
Laurie S
To: new cruelty
Fines could range from $100-$250, and a business which willfully violated the law three or more times could lose its business license. I can imagine the future - homosexuals purposely acting really weird, they get fired, claim it's discrimination, the poor business owner gets fined, they do it again a couple of times, he either loses his business or has to tolerate unacceptable behavior or attitudes from his employees.
Reminds me of the sodomy case in Texas - the two sodomists on purpose called the police to their house, left the door open, and were on purpose committing sodomy so the police could see. I can see the future and it is not pretty.
Folks, I think it's about time to do some serious activist freeping on the right side of this issue, where ever we live. If we don't stand up, do whatever we can do, pretty soon sodomy is going to be shoved in our faces and we are going to see hell on earth.
And one of the salient features of the homosexual "rights" crap is that the majority of Americans feel that homosexual acts ARE weird, sickening and wrong. But the kids are being indoctrinated in school, so we don't have much time to turn this sick tide around.
To: new cruelty
"Covington city commissioners Tuesday unanimously supported a new human rights ordinance which extends protections to gays and lesbians. "I guess the basic question that needs to be asked is should we allow discrimination in this community?" said Commissioner Jerry Bamberger. "The answer is no."
How about equal rights for sado-masochists, paedophiles, sheep-lovers, etc? This has reached the point of absurdity. Homosexuality is a perversion - clear and simple, and its time the public demanded pandering politicians stop catering to these freaks.
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posted on
04/30/2003 8:33:13 AM PDT
by
ZULU
To: Laurie S
That's like saying if there was a law outlawing white people to marry eachother Strawman arguments are not allowed here.
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posted on
04/30/2003 8:37:57 AM PDT
by
ladtx
("...the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." D. MacArthur)
To: Laurie S
"it's ok. You can marry just like anyone else. Just marry someone who's black, asian.. anyone other than another white person." How funny! :) The argument that people of the same sex who have "sex" with each other are somehow similar to people of the same race is not on rediculous, it is offenses to minority races (minority in this country, that is). Behavior can and often does change. Some behavior is pernicious, some is benign, and some is beneficial. Being born black, or Asian, or white, is completely neutral and no one should be discriminated against solely for belonging to a particular race.
On the other hand, one has to discriminate between different kinds of behaviors, otherwise one is acting on the level of a mental deficient. No one can claim that all behaviors are equal, in any sphere of life. And in the sphere of sexual behavior, that is glaringly true.
To: pram
Next time I better preview - and not post in such a hurry!
To: pram
FYI
Laurie S
Since Mar 27, 2003
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posted on
04/30/2003 9:15:31 AM PDT
by
scripter
(Imagine a forum where constructive criticism was the norm.)
To: scripter
We seem to be getting a lot of liberal trolls here. No matter, they'll be zotted when the 2004 election comes around.
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posted on
04/30/2003 9:17:39 AM PDT
by
Kuksool
To: American in Israel
a person could refuse to rent to a homosexual. This was important to mom and pop apartments where they may not have wanted the homosexual lifestyle in their building.
To: Kuksool
it seems the trolls are creating id's an "aging" them for 2004. I hope there is a way to verify one user per ID.
To: new cruelty
It expands a city law which prohibited housing discrimination If I were a landlord I wouldn't want faggots living in my building. An old girlfriend of mine had a coupla real swishy types living right next to her in an apt complex, and without getting into too much detail, let's just say the noises we heard were disgusting beyond description.
I think that landlords should be able to discrimminate against anyone for any reason.
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posted on
04/30/2003 9:27:12 AM PDT
by
Mr. Mojo
To: pram
"The argument that people of the same sex who have "sex" with each other are somehow similar to people of the same race is not on rediculous, it is offenses to minority races (minority in this country, that is). Behavior can and often does change. Some behavior is pernicious, some is benign, and some is beneficial. Being born black, or Asian, or white, is completely neutral and no one should be discriminated against solely for belonging to a particular race. "
Under the constitution all men are created equal. It does not say 'except if you're gay'. Gays should have the right to marry. Who care's if they have sex with eachother? Why do we want to stick our noses in their bedrooms.. especially if we hate their behavior so much? We should be encouraging monogomous relationships, not trying to discriminate who can be monogomous with whom. Marriage (with all of it's government/state supported benefits) is the right of every american.. not just 'some'.
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posted on
04/30/2003 9:41:12 AM PDT
by
Laurie S
To: ladtx
Strawman argument? So, saying gay people aren't discriminated against in marriage laws because they can always marry a het, isn't a strawman argument? LOL!
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posted on
04/30/2003 9:42:42 AM PDT
by
Laurie S
To: new cruelty
Garbage like this is the only reason I support Texas in the case before the Supreme Court.
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posted on
04/30/2003 9:42:45 AM PDT
by
B Knotts
To: pram
Behavior can and often does change. Well, then, what you're saying is that is would be more accurate to equate it to religious discrimination rather than to racial discrimination. OK.
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posted on
04/30/2003 9:43:49 AM PDT
by
steve-b
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