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Breaking: Fox News: Jessica lynch has "Amnesia"
Fox News | 03 May 03 | Rita Cosby

Posted on 05/03/2003 6:27:06 PM PDT by TXnMA

Fox News' Rita Cosby has just announced that the military says that Jessica Lynch cannot remember anything after the ambush. They say she was "traumatized" and is "blocking out the memories".

Psychiatrists are helping her recover her memories because she "is probably our best witness for war crimes prosecution".

Still developing...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraqifreedom; jessicalynch; lynch; pows; psychology; torture
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To: Duramaximus
"The portion of this story that troubles me the most is where she openly traveled with those freaks for months."

The war was over in less than a month. Please don't insult our intelligence further. Come up with some accurate data before you post anything; it will do wonders for your credibility...

81 posted on 05/03/2003 8:19:57 PM PDT by yooper
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To: TXnMA
god bless her. what a story. what an ordeal.
82 posted on 05/03/2003 8:23:26 PM PDT by southriver4
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To: TXnMA
Obviously I don't have any other info, but I can see how this is quite convenient for a lot of reasons and could be the right move at the right time. In time we probably will be given some but not all of the details.
83 posted on 05/03/2003 8:27:31 PM PDT by OldEagle (Haven't been wrong since 1947.)
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To: halfdome
From a 4/6 AP story:

Lynch, a 19-year-old supply clerk, was in stable condition in the intensive care unit, where she was being treated for a head wound, an injury to her spine, and fractures to her right arm, both legs, her right foot and ankle.

The hospital also confirmed the possibility that gunshots may have caused fractures to the upper right arm and lower left leg. The hospital commander, Col. David Rubenstein, previously said no entry or exit wounds consistent with gunshot wounds had been found.

"The medical staff says, after more closely examining those wounds, there is a possibility they were caused by a low velocity, small caliber weapon," the a statement said, stressing treatment would have been the same no matter what the cause.

84 posted on 05/03/2003 8:27:42 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Catspaw
Geezalmighty; I just realized he was confusing Lynch with Smart myself!!! I'm still laughing here, and spitting gin and tonic on my keyboard!!!
85 posted on 05/03/2003 8:30:09 PM PDT by yooper
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To: Duramaximus
Duramaximus, you just made my weekend! All this time I've been wondering what the hell you're talking about, and now I know.

Don't sweat it buddy; I've been there myself. I never could figure out what Kennedy was doing at Ford's theatre. I'm still laughing!

86 posted on 05/03/2003 8:33:20 PM PDT by yooper
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To: SteamShovel
I agree. If we have any humanity at all - we and the media will leave her alone to heal. Speaking for myself - I will immediately throw a fit and contact the networks if I hear the media trying to delve into the truth of what happened to Jessica, the facts so that all can know how women are treated as POW's, to understand the truth so that she can heal more effectively now.....

This young lady must face her future and why should we allow the Iraqis to tarnish that future for her. Whatever they did or did not do is in the past and she deserves all the help we can give her. And that help means whatever happened is private for her and her family - unless she wants to provide any information.
87 posted on 05/03/2003 9:17:20 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: halfdome
What is it to you anyway? Are you jealous that a woman would be portrayed in a good light instead of less than a man?

No matter if Iraqis had already abandoned the hospital or not - they could easily have killed or come back and killed those left behind. As far as being shot? Well, the doctors since then have advised that in treating the injuries - they did find she had been shot with small calibre pistol. Torture? Is this how the bones were broken?

Now - please - leave this young girl alone. Whatever happened to her was absolutely horrible, however it happened, she was not at fault - she was a prisoner. She is under no obligation to advise you what happened, how it happened or what she did.

88 posted on 05/03/2003 9:25:56 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Duramaximus
I have been told (OK, it's secondhand, sorry) that various Chinese newspapers assembled differing accounts of the POW and rescue stories and ... the stories did not add up. The conclusion, according to the analyses, was that a story had been promulgated for morale and political reasons, at a time when support for the war domestically was dropping quickly. I heard this a few days after her rescue. I thought I would wait a while to see if the situation would straighten out, since the evidence of fabrication seemed so tenuous. If the main facts were true, then there would be a chance that she would come home relatively soon, reunite with family and friends, and begin the steps towards resuming a normal life... including, eventually, exposure to the general public and the press. If, however, the "rumors" of fabrication of portions of the story were true, then (I predicted to no one but myself at the time) she would remain secluded, first in a US hospital overseas, then back in the US, and there would be some way found in which her exposure to questions would be minimized.

I personally do not know what to think. But I don't want to be gullible and assume anything either way from the contradictory reports and unusual post-rescue treatment. I have not since encountered the fabrication theory in print anywhere. I think the reason it's not in print is because so many want to believe she is a hero, no matter what the facts are.

Fact: we don't know what the facts are.

Almost everything about this story is very tightly controlled.

But what about the lawyer who did the rescue?

Again, I have personally neither seen his picture or definitively know where he was or is, or even if he exists. If he was hired by a law firm, then where are his clients and co-workers? How could his privacy be shielded indefinitely? Gradually, we may learn more about him. Or we may not. It is convenient that he joined a law firm, which is bound by law to keep so much confidential?

Now... let's suppose for a moment that fabrication occurred. Would that be "wrong"? Under one imaginative scenario, the whole thing was staged to keep morale high, and actual casualties low. I have no problems believing that a major goal of the war was to keep US casualties low, at any cost. I believe I noticed several creative strategies employed during the war to that purpose, including imaginative use of an "adversary" (in the political sense, at least) domestic press.

Was this part of a scheme to neutralize the "adversary" domestic and international press?

If so, what then? It worked. One could argue that it may have saved coalition lives, and perhaps Iraqi lives, and may have further helped either demoralize the enemy or hastened their demise. Even if it did neither, it would have been an imaginative attempt in the direction of saving lives. Is the Bush administration and the military clever enough to have come up with such a scheme? (No doubt, Bush's political detractors and assorted anti-war activists would vocally decry such a contention.)

My take is that coming up with imaginative ways of saving lives is not a bad thing.

Either way, in fact, it seems as if Lynch and her comrades deserve credit for their service. And all the privacy they require, and prefer.

89 posted on 05/03/2003 9:28:42 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: Duramaximus
kidnapping

They don't call this kidnapping.

90 posted on 05/03/2003 9:31:48 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: TXnMA
Amnesia my eye.

Who says the Clintonized military is history?
91 posted on 05/03/2003 9:34:14 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: Duramaximus
OIC. Shows me to not read the whole thread before joining in. As if . . .
92 posted on 05/03/2003 9:36:29 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: Duramaximus
This whole "amnesia" story just appears to me to be another attempt to make an end-run around the truth about her kidnapping.

And the murders of her fellow soldiers, what were those an attempt to do?

Jeez-- "kidnapping"? If you got lost loking for an Elizabeth Smart thread, they're usually in the Back Room.

AND THEY'RE USUALLY OVER THERE BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

93 posted on 05/03/2003 9:37:44 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: RightWhale; Duramaximus
Oh crap I did the same thing.

LOL! I was being sarcastic, but you really were thinking Elizabeth Smart.

Um, sleep in tomorrow or something.

94 posted on 05/03/2003 9:45:05 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: ClancyJ
Oh, please, don't get your panties in a bunch. How have I attacked this young girl? How have I insinuated that she was under some obligation to advise me what happened? I stated that there have been conflicting reports on what happened to her.
95 posted on 05/03/2003 9:45:42 PM PDT by halfdome
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To: halfdome
OK - thanks for the restatement. Brings the goofy level of your post down to zero.

As for all the conflicting stories, I would apply Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is how information on sketchy or detailed stories makes its way to the public.

First, those truly in the know are being tight-lipped for a variety of reasons. Respect for Jessica's privacy, warnings from nervous lawyers AND PR people, special forces commanders that wish to keep operational details and methodology quiet, desire to protect informants or operations still ongoing in Iraq (still want to get the guy who "slapped" her), etc.

Those presumably in the know do have various agendas, emotions, bad info, etc. Some may lie b/c they are told something false, hold on to hope, etc. Some reporters twist words and statements so that the original intended meaning is actually reversed. Why a doctor who would truly know (as opposed to a hospital spokes/PR person?) sould say she wasn't shot while another says the opposite is somethign I can't answer, but I don't thinking conspiracy immediately.

There are many practical reasons not to publish a 1000 page book of facts that everybody who knows every detail will sign off on too.

So the press, in their zeal to report something, turns to those who are not in a position to convey "truth" because they don't know details. These people talk to reporters b/c it makes them feel important, or some may have an agenda. You have doctors, some military folks barely connected to events but that remain a "source" for a reporter, the 3rd cousin's uncle's best friend who heard through a family member that blah blah blah, etc. The press will take what they can get and the specific reporter will fill in the holes with his own bias or notion of events.

The next reporter writing an article or reading the news goes through the same process, and you end up with two wildly different stories.

This is the nature of things. Imperfect information combined with a publishing deadline makes its way to somebody thirsty for knowledge.

Another Freeper said it best: Wait. Don't draw conclusions and don't get caught up in conspiracy theories, which merely add to soup I've described above.

96 posted on 05/03/2003 9:52:57 PM PDT by bluefish
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To: mikegi
What an idiot! I think I might qualify for some government program...

The IRS probably has an office & desk & title waiting for you.

97 posted on 05/03/2003 9:55:53 PM PDT by Lester Moore
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To: jlogajan
All our POW's were captured under heroic conditions -- those conditions being that they volunteered to serve our country in a combat zone.

Amen. I can't believe how some want to make "hero" a matter of being involved in a 1 in a million situation, only extreme acts of bravery that meet some finicky criteria: I think we have a few hundred thousand heroes, and we should acknowledge them as such.

It's miraculous that we still have a military left after Clinton's assault on our country. Those who faught in Afghanistan and Iraq are not just heroes in terms of putting their lives on the line to defeat the enemy, they have also helped exorcise the ghost of Clinton once and for all. In the sagging moral climate of America immediately post-Clinton, these men and women (with the leadership of GW and his team) brought back the soul of our country.

98 posted on 05/03/2003 9:56:57 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever (Boycott france and russia for at least 20 years)
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To: thathamiltonwoman
The reason of no memory of the period after the death could be that you were in grief. In grief, we do not pay attention to outside events, our minds are distracted so therefore memories are weaker.
99 posted on 05/03/2003 10:01:11 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Duramaximus
I think there are a lot "powerfull" people directing the story. We will never learn the truth. True is, she had to suffer a lot..the "sucessful" war history doesn't allow us to know the truth!! They don't want us to know, how horrible the single peoples lifes are.
I watched the Arabian TV, it's scary the way they think about the USA. (I can watch all of the Arabian Channels) it comes for free with GermaN tv)
100 posted on 05/03/2003 10:04:28 PM PDT by janette
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