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Joe McCarthy Secret Hearings to Be Unveiled Monday
Yahoo! News ^ | 5/4/03 | Joanne Kenen - Reuters

Posted on 05/04/2003 9:51:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -

Fifty years after Sen. Joe McCarthy conducted some of the most infamous hearings in Senate history, thousands of pages of his secret probes into alleged Communist subversion will finally be made public.

Some 5,000 pages of 1953-1954 closed-door hearings from McCarthy's Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations will be released Monday by Carl Levin, a Michigan Democrat, and Susan Collins, a Maine Republican. Levin and Collins have both chaired McCarthy's former committee during the past two years as the documents were prepared for release.

They plan to issue them in the same Senate hearing room where McCarthy himself once held court.

Historians believe the five volumes of transcripts will shed light on what many regard as one of the most shameful episodes in Senate history -- a time when Cold War anxiety about the Soviet Union, Communist China and a perceived domestic Communist threat led to political witch hunts at home.

"This is the first time historians have had access to raw documentation," said Donald Ritchie, the associate Senate historian. "I think it will really stimulate scholarship. They'll have much more substantive information to go on."

Most of the people who took part in the hearings are now dead.

McCarthy himself, a Wisconsin Republican who catapulted himself to fame with his headline-grabbing but ultimately fabricated allegations of vast Communist conspiracies tainting the State Department, the Government Printing Office and parts of the U.S. military, died in 1957. He was censured by the Senate in 1954.

McCarthy's most notorious hearings, the Army-McCarthy hearings, were held in public and the secret portions of that investigation were released long ago.

The very public nature of the army hearings -- they were among the first televised -- helped bring about McCarthy's downfall as ordinary people saw his reckless and brutal behavior as he impugned the loyalty of the U.S. Army.

But before McCarthy was brought down, he brought down scores of people, historians say. Many had some degree of leftist politics or sympathies in their past, but none were traitors or spies.

The documents being made public now were the hearings he held behind closed doors. Some of those witnesses were later called before public panels, where McCarthy asked his trademark question, "Are you now or have you ever been a Communist?"

But some of the secret witnesses were never called again in public. But they didn't necessarily stay secret either. McCarthy often briefed reporters on the secret proceedings -- at least his version of the proceedings. Many people's careers were destroyed simply because he had summoned them to testify.




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To: wideminded
I think that assessment is pretty close.
41 posted on 05/05/2003 7:03:44 AM PDT by nonliberal (Taglines? We don't need no stinkin' taglines!)
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To: wideminded
Hope you hold judgement on how LBJ got his Silver Star.
42 posted on 05/05/2003 7:06:29 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: Criminal Number 18F
McCarthy himself, a Wisconsin Republican...

Was it 1944 that McCarthy switched over from the Democrat Party so that he could run in the Republican Primary?

43 posted on 05/05/2003 7:07:57 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ckilmer
they assumed McCarthy senate hearings were set up in the same way that the Russian show trials were set up for mass murder.

"Whoever could get his case before a court was generally assured of meeting there with a level of justice no smaller than at any time in recent American history."
-George Kennan

44 posted on 05/05/2003 7:10:24 AM PDT by nonliberal (Taglines? We don't need no stinkin' taglines!)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
My exact thoughts upon seeing that the papers were going to be released. Carl Levin?!? Give me a break!
45 posted on 05/05/2003 7:10:36 AM PDT by ImpotentRage
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To: ladyinred
http://www.opinioninc.com/aim101496.html
46 posted on 05/05/2003 7:12:42 AM PDT by Axenolith (I wish I may, I wish I might ...have pizza for my dinner tonight.)
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To: wideminded
He was my uncle Bob McCormick's tent-mate on Guadalcanal, and my uncle said he was a great guy. He also told me that the Marines used to smash their rifle butts in the Japs teeth during interrogation.
47 posted on 05/05/2003 7:13:08 AM PDT by seamas
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To: ckilmer
Did the FBI tell McCarthy about the Venona intercepts?

No way! McCarthy was a notorious blabbermouth, especially when he had been drinking.

48 posted on 05/05/2003 7:13:10 AM PDT by nonliberal (Taglines? We don't need no stinkin' taglines!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Communists who were allies of Stalin and Mao did exist, and still exist in this country. They were dedicated to the overthrow of our system of government. They are still working towards that same goal. "

2 words: Michael Moore.
49 posted on 05/05/2003 7:26:08 AM PDT by uncbuck ("Lady, I'm not an athlete, I'm a baseball player." -- John Kruk)
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To: ckilmer
I'm not aware of any spy that was aware of Venona. The venona intercepts were made possible because the Soviets couldn't get new one-time pads to their far-flung stations. So the stations re-used one time pads. The technical fact is that a random one-time pad is mathematically provable as unbreakable -- at a depth of one. If you reuse a one-time pad, as the Soviets had to, it becomes a VERY possible thing to break it.

Most of the Venona intercepts were espionage traffic (KGB). That's why it gives such a great insight into the McCarthy era spies, most of whom were recruited in the thirties when the USSR seemed like the New Deal taken to its logical conclusion. Only the true believers among them still worked for the Soviets after the show trials (meaning, ALL of them betrayed us during the World War).

Just because breaking a one-time pad at a depth of two is possible. is not the same thing as saying it is trivial. In the raw breaks, once available on NSA's website, there are a lot of incomplete messages and uncertain areas. And... while we have (or had) the entire Venona intercepts, the counterspies of the forties and fifties didn't. The Venona intercepts are a body of work that was building until (IIRC) 1981, and even the low-hanging fruit were just coming exploitable in the McCarthy era (at least, if you discount the fact that GCHQ was working on them when it was still Bletchley Park. Nothing from that period has been or will be declassified).

The NSA spies I'm aware of, except for Pelton and Pollard, were low-echelon guys who were working in the military, collecting end of the agency. All Venona related stuff took place, as far as I can tell, at HQ.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

50 posted on 05/05/2003 7:34:25 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Lancey Howard
if you believe that, then I question your "judgement"

I accept the possibility that the several historians who put together this exhibit are biased, but being as the exhibit has been on display for over a year in McCarthy's own home town, I would think that people who knew McCarthy would want to defend his name if the statement could be proved false. The way it is written, the statement would be an outrageous accusation if there wasn't a considerable amount of evidence behind it. Probably there is someone who has tracked down the true story about this and I'll see what I can find out.

51 posted on 05/05/2003 8:35:46 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: cynicom
Hope you hold judgement on how LBJ got his Silver Star

I have already heard that LBJ's silver star was unearned and the awarding of it was politically motivated.

52 posted on 05/05/2003 8:40:37 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: All
From AP via Sac Bee

Senate unseals McCarthy transcripts

53 posted on 05/05/2003 9:35:23 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic)
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To: All
Link to the Senate COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS / PERMANENT SUBCOMMITTEE ON INVESTIGATIONS page for information now being "disclosed".

WARNING -- These are big files!!!


54 posted on 05/05/2003 9:51:21 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic)
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To: NormsRevenge
bttt
55 posted on 05/05/2003 12:37:08 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Criminal Number 18F
I'm not aware of any spy that was aware of Venona.
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this stuff was aired in a PBS special last february
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/venona/
based on documents from the NSA
http://www.nsa.gov/docs/venona/venona_docs.html
56 posted on 05/05/2003 3:56:57 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: wideminded
....as the exhibit has been on display for over a year in McCarthy's own home town, I would think that people who knew McCarthy....

McCarthy has been dead since 1957. That is a very long time and I would be surprised if there are any old acquaintances left who have the energy or the inclination to bring scorn upon themselves by defending the "evil" Senator McCarthy.

To say that it is politically incorrect to defend Joe McCarthy is an understatement in the extreme. The liberal press and Hollywood have had decades to smear and demean the man. Some of the criticism of McCarthy is certainly deserved - - he brought it on himself with his clumsy heavy-handedness and his inability to handle the sudden fame of becoming a "television star". Power and fame went to his head and he abused it in a sorry display of arrogance, pomposity, and self-righteousness.

But given decades to smear a dead man who is not around to defend himself, the liberals have spun McCarthy's reputation as the devil incarnate way, way, way out of proportion and worse, they have managed to cloud or bury the truth of what McCarthy investigated and exposed.

It is my opinion that McCarthy did more to help his nation than all of the Hollywood scumbags who ever whined and lied about him put together ever did.

Please let me know what your research turns up.

Regards,
LH

57 posted on 05/05/2003 8:42:01 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Check out today's thread if you haven;t already... Senate unseals McCarthy transcripts
58 posted on 05/05/2003 8:54:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic)
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To: Criminal Number 18F
I find the subject fascinating as well. I read a book by Martin Gardner that got me interested.
59 posted on 05/05/2003 9:06:53 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: NormsRevenge
Thanks. I'll check it out.
60 posted on 05/05/2003 9:10:47 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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