THE "DEBATE"-- Democratic Party's Problem Transcends Its Anti-War Contingent

The New York Times; C-SPAN | 5.5.03 | Mia T

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THE "DEBATE"
Democratic Party's Problem Transcends Its Anti-War Contingent

Mia T, 5.5.03

Nine Democratic presidential candidates battled tonight over the war in Iraq and over how to provide health care insurance for all Americans, in a debate that highlighted deep fissures in the party that several candidates warned could endanger its chances of winning back the White House.

It was the first time these candidates have met in debate, and it almost instantly turned into a squabble that revealed strong -- and in one case apparently personal -- differences in this crowded field, on national security and domestic policy.

Democrats' First Presidential Debate Shows Party Fissures
NYTimes | 5/4/03 | ADAM NAGOURNEY

 

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copyright Mia T 2003.

by Mia T, 4.6.03

 

If Act I was a thinly veiled allegory about naked clintonism, then Act II is a parable about the plan for world domination by the Establishment, aged hippies in pinstripes all, with their infantile, solipsistic world view amazingly untouched by time.

 

Mia T, THE ALIENS

 

Al From is sounding the alarm. "Unless we convince Americans that Democrats are strong on national security," he warns his party, "Democrats will continue to lose elections."

Helloooo? That the Democrats have to be spoon-fed what should be axiomatic post-9/11 is, in and of itself, incontrovertible proof that From's advice is insufficient to solve their problem.

From's failure to fully lay out the nature of the Democrats' problem is not surprising: he is the guy who helped seal his party's fate. It was his Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) that institutionalized the proximate cause of the problem, clintonism, and legitimized its two eponymic provincial operators on the national stage. The "Third Way" and "triangulation" don't come from the same Latin root for no reason.

That "convince" is From's operative word underscores the Democrats' dilemma. Nine-eleven was transformative. It is no longer sufficient merely to convince. One must demonstrate, demonstrate convincingly, if you will… which means both in real time and historically.

When it comes to national security, Americans will no longer take any chances. Turning the turn of phrase back on itself, the era of the Placebo President is over. (Incidentally, the oft-quote out-of-context sentence fragment alluded to here transformed meaningless clinton triangulation into a meaningful if deceptive soundbite.)

Although From is loath to admit it -- the terror in his eyes belies his facile solution -- the Democratic party's problem transcends its anti-war contingent.

With a philosophy that relinquishes our national sovereignty -- and relinquishes it reflexively… and to the UN no less -- the Democratic party is, by definition, the party of national insecurity.

With policy ruled by pathologic self-interest -- witness the "Lieberman Paradigm," Kerry's "regime change" bon mot (gone bad), Edwards' and the clintons' brazen echoes thereof (or, alternatively, Pelosi's less strident wartime non-putdown putdown)… and, of course, the clincher -- eight years of the clintons' infantilism, grotesquerie and utter failure -- the Democratic party is, historically and in real time, the party of national insecurity.

The Democrats used to be able to wallpaper their national insecurity with dollars and demogoguery. But that was before 9/11.

The REAL "Living History" -- clintoplasmodial slime

^{Q ERTY8}Either THEY are obsolete… or civilization is bump!

[Mia T]

Hi. How have you been?

I'm not sure about New Yorkers. They may be incurable Democrats, but when it comes to literal survival, they are street-smart. They understand that post-9/11, national security must trump ALL ELSE.

In my view, hillary clinton -- BOTH clintons, in fact -- are not now -- and will NEVER be -- nationally electable...

Moreover, I suspect that even intractable Democrats will not support the national insecurity of a Democratic president.  They may not vote for Bush, but they won't vote for a Democrat, either...

This is also the view of my hairdresser ("only your hairdresser knows for sure" ), who takes the pulse of these normally fuzzyheaded miscreants monthly...

Says my hairdresser: "They HATE hillary. She CANNOT win another election... and Bush cannot LOSE."

BTW, she is apolitical, but ADORES Bush, Rumsfeld and Powell.

Q ERTY9

BUSH: "I will not wait on events, while dangers gather."

 

President's Remarks view

This country has many challenges. We will not deny, we will not ignore, we will not pass along our problems to other Congresses, to other presidents, and other generations. (Applause.) We will confront them with focus and clarity and courage...

Sending Americans into battle is the most profound decision a President can make. The technologies of war have changed; the risks and suffering of war have not. For the brave Americans who bear the risk, no victory is free from sorrow. This nation fights reluctantly, because we know the cost and we dread the days of mourning that always come.

We seek peace. We strive for peace. And sometimes peace must be defended. A future lived at the mercy of terrible threats is no peace at all. If war is forced upon us, we will fight in a just cause and by just means -- sparing, in every way we can, the innocent. And if war is forced upon us, we will fight with the full force and might of the United States military -- and we will prevail. (Applause.)

State of the Union Address by President George W. Bush

 

[esopman]

Unabashed Mia T bump!

From your hairdresser's mouth to God's ears: May Hillary Regina indeed be unelectable. I think so, as well, but...

The intersection point of interest is the bleed-down curve for the influence of the Goebbels media and the rising curve of awareness in the malleable middle of the electorate. I don't think we are at the point where the major left media have been trumped.

Hillary is running. She really has to rely on some demonic deus-ex-machina to pull off a victory, even with her 'repositioning' to support the military in Iraq, etc. Fred Barnes thinks she will try for '08. That's too far out for her. I suspect she will settle for a VPOTUS slot, finagled through the Dim's back rooms at the last minute. Her nightmare scenario is another Dim from the mob of wannabe's winning in '04. Her long knives are already out for the leaders of that pack. Factor in voter fraud, sabotage from the legions of Clintonoids still in government and a flood of propaganda from the Petah Jennings of the 4th estate unparalleled since 1939 and, well, she has a small, but not vanishingly small chance.

I am trusting that your hairdresser is a Prophet.

[Mia T]

thx ;)

With the clintons, voter fraud is both a given and necessary. It may also prove to be their pitfall....

Surely, the Democrats know that if they are to become even remotely credible, they must purge the party of the clintons. It's hard to believe that a coup isn't in the works.

The only D in the clintons' back pocket appears to be blinking Edwards.

An Edwards-clinton ticket? Now there's a Faustian bargain that will increase Edwards' blinking by at least one order of magnitude.

[Matchett-PI]

Terrorist's dream team:

Hillery in the White House and husband BJ head of the UN.

[Mia T]

 

Despite a field of nine candidates from which to choose, nearly a quarter of likely Democratic presidential primary voters in New Hampshire say they are undecided about the 2004 race, fueling more speculation about the possible entry of a tenth candidate - New York Senator and former First Lady Hillary Clinton.

But while political watchers like conservative Robert Novak think it's still possible for a Clinton candidacy, recent polls show she is having major problems pleasing her own constituents in New York State.

Polls conducted by Zogby International and Marist College of Poughkeepsie, N.Y., show Clinton with high negative job ratings. In the Marist poll, 47 percent considered Clinton's job performance either excellent or good. Forty-nine percent rated it either fair or poor. The Zogby poll measured the same overall favorable rating, 47 percent, but revealed that 51 percent considered Clinton to have done either a fair or poor job as senator.

"Generally in New York, she remains fairly polarizing," Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist College Poll told CNSNews.com....

John Zogby, president and CEO of Zogby International, said while the slow economy is causing "no particular political leader to do well" in recent polls, he agreed that Clinton's polarizing effect may uniquely put her at a disadvantage, particularly in upstate New York.

"First, it must be said that upstate is in the midst of a severe economic slowdown. It's gone from bad to worse and then even worse than worse," Zogby told CNSNews.com. "Number two, she always starts with AT LEAST 33 percent that hate her guts."

...Jeff Stonecash, political science professor with the Maxwell School at New York's Syracuse University, told CNSNews.com he had "never seen a candidate who, before ever running for office, elicited such remarkably polarized reactions.....

Hillary '04 Speculation Continues Amid Declining Popularity in NY
CNSNews.com | May 6, 2003 | Steve Brown

Can you spell
u-n-e-l-e-c-t-a-b-l-e ??

[Mia T]

hillary clinton is unelectable -- a clarification and a caveat:

Of course, theoretically, given just the right cirucumstances, anyone can be 'elected' to anything.... and I, therefore, stress that we must remain ever vigilant.

When I state that hillary clinton is unelectable, my premises are these:

• The numbers are just not there and can never be... and for two reasons:
  1. hillary clinton is viscerally DESPISED by at least half the electorate, i.e., by almost all men and by more women than you would think -- check out the Fran Lebowitz contingent, for example:

     "I think she's a very poor role model for girls," she said. "I believe she's someone who decided at a young age that 'I want to be President, but I can't, because I'm a girl. So I'll marry the President.' I think that's so regressive." She paused for breath. "She's a poll-taker, she's a pulse-taker, she's not a leader. She doesn't really seem to have any ideas" And then she comes here and panders."

     Meet the Smart New York Women Who Can't Stand Hillary Clinton
     The New York Observer,

  2. Even if her absolute numbers are not as bad as they would appear, the polarization she engenders is. Moreover, the intensity against far exceeds the intensity for. hillary clinton is the best GOP "get out the vote" mechanism extant.
• We (meaning the rest of us) will no longer tolerate standard-issue clinton-McAuliffe-DNC voter fraud and the clintons know it; (Try it here, and they will make our day.)
• The US isn't NY.
• NY isn't NY. (NYers may be incurable Democrats, but when it comes to literal survival, they are street-smart. They understand that post-9/11, national security must trump ALL ELSE. Even intractable Democrats will not support the national insecurity of Democratics.  They may not have the stomach to vote for Bush, but they won't vote for a Democrat, either... ) This reasoning applies singularly to the clintons, who have already demonstrated their utter incompetency and failure in the national security department, which is a president's main charge.

• The US voter isn't a battered wife: (one rape and you're outta there)

• The hairdresser factor ("only your hairdresser knows for sure" ) -- My hairdresser takes the pulse of these normally fuzzyheaded miscreants monthly... Her finding: "They HATE hillary. She CANNOT win another election... and Bush cannot LOSE."

 

 

The clintons' refinement of the DNC "drag and drop," a vote fraud technique by which unwitting, unwilling and/or illegal blacks are coerced into voting multiple times, is not merely illegal and exploitive. It is racist.

Calculating a black man's worth to be 5/3 of a vote is no less racist, and arguably more so, than calculating his worth to be 3/5 of a man; the latter is demeaning, but the former is dehumanizing.

In the senate race against Rick Lazio, it is widely understood that the "drag and drop," (followed by the OLD ANGLE / NEW SQUARE / OVAL OFFICE SCHEME ) was clinton's vote fraud technique of choice used to overcome her low poll numbers, high personal negatives and consistent public failures.

 Mia T, HILLARY CLINTON, DESIGNATED DEMOCRAT ATTACK DOG, MAKES HER DEBUT

Rest assured that if her heinous runs for election to any office, the votes will be loaded into the machines long before the day the polls open. That is exactly what happened in NY and it will be repeated all over the country. Don't forget the voter fraud committed EVERYWHERE during the 2000 presidential election.

OldFriend (Pray)

Didn't Democrat turnout in 2000 exceed registered voters in certain critical NY districts?

"I did not have any involvement in the pardons that were granted or not granted," insisted Sen. KnowNothing, seeming to forget her presence at the New-Square/Oval-Office schmooze that secured pardons for the four Hasidic felons who set up a phony school in Brooklyn to swindle the government out of millions intended for the poor.

 

Mia T
Sen. KnowNothing Victim Clinton Effectively Pleads 5TH in Press Conference by Invoking Spousal Privilege

 

 

[Mia T]

 

For the first time, the chairman of the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks is saying publicly that 9/11 could have and should have been prevented, reports CBS News Correspondent Randall Pinkston.

"This is a very, very important part of history and we've got to tell it right," said Thomas Kean.

"As you read the report, you're going to have a pretty clear idea what wasn't done and what should have been done," he said. "This was not something that had to happen."

 9/11 Chair: Attack Was Preventable
CBS | 17 December 2003

ADDENDUM 12.13.03:

As for pathologic self-interest, check out Richard Miniter's C-SPAN interview; the interview is contained in my latest virtual hillary movie (below), hillary talks:ON TERROR; it is absolutely devastating for the clintons. Miniter lays out in sickening detail the clintons' monumental failure to protect America.

Note in particular Madeleine Albright's shocking reason given at the time of the USS Cole attack why the clinton administration should not respond militarily. It tell us everything we need to know about the clintons. It tell us why clinton redux is an absolutely suicidal notion.

Notwithstanding their cowardice, corruption, perfidy and essential stupidity, the clintons, according to Albright, made their decision not to go after the terrorists primarily to enhance their own legacy and power. The clintons calculated that such inaction would MAXIMIZE THEIR CHANCES TO RECEIVE THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE. No matter that that inaction would also maximize the terrorists' power, maximize America's danger.

The Democratic Party's Problem Transcends Its Anti-War Contingent2

The Nobel as clinton Pavlovian stimulus--a timeline
(In this season of gift horses and attack dogs, let us not forget the good clinton dog, Buddy...)

To this day, clinton seems not to understand that bin Laden is -- and was in 1996 -- an enemy of the state, not a simple criminal.

Clinton does not get it: the same terrorist --the terrorist he refused to take--hit the same building in '93.(To be sure, clinton cluelessness is only part of the explanation for this monumental blunder; other critical components include clinton cowardice, criminality, rapaciousness and, that which permeates everything clinton, concern for his/their noxious legacy.)

Notwithstanding this, to hear clinton tell it, his disastrous decision not to take bin Laden when offered up on a silver platter by Sudan, (arguably the worst decision ever made by a president), derived from his scrupulous avoidance of abusing power and trashing laws...

Yeah, right.

Left-Wing Talk Radio--'It's the terrorism, stupid'.

he clintons' malfeasance-malpractice constellation was both a necessary and sufficient cause of 9/11. That is to say, had the clintons (BOTH of them--it was a "co-presidency," remember?) competently and honestly and selflessly done their job, bin Laden would be but a footnote today; 9/11, and perhaps even more important, the exponential growth of al Qaeda, would not have happened. It's really that simple.

hillary talks:ON TERROR
(reinstalling the clintons in the White House has one advantage over suicide)

(viewing movie requires Flash Player 6, available HERE)

missus clinton's REAL virtual office update
http://hillarytalks.blogspot.com
http://virtualclintonlibrary.blogspot.com
http://demmemogate.blogspot.com
http://www.hillarytalks.us
http://www.hillarytalks.org
fiendsofhillary.blogspot.com
fiendsofhillary.us
fiendsofhillary.org
fraudsofhillary.com

Mia T, 12.18.03, YOO-HOO! GOV. KEAN: The 2-Headed Grotesquerie in the Room

 

PART 1

PART 2

by Mia T, 1-21-03

 

 

isten carefully to "Left-Wing Talk Radio--'It's the terrorism, stupid'." Hear clinton cluelessness, cowardice, narcissism, smallness, banality, fecklessness, ineptitude, prevarication, corruption, perfidy and utter failure directly from the rapist, himself. (The perfect foil for President Bush.)

Pay special attention to Dan Rather's ruminations about terrorism hitting the U.S. "bigtime" during the clintons' tenure; the unvarnished truth from the left, for a change. Rather was, apparently, caught off guard by the horror of 9/11... or perhaps he was just plain angry at the clintons, the obvious necessary and sufficient cause of this horror. (NB Gov. Kean.)

In particular, connect the following dots: the '93 WTC bombing. a certain bin Laden protégé and clinton's admission that he passed up bin Laden. Note clinton's spurious argument for this monumental failure.

To this day, clinton seems not to understand that bin Laden is -- and was in 1996 -- an enemy of the state, not a simple criminal.

Clinton does not get it: the same terrorist --the terrorist he refused to take--hit the same building in '93. (To be sure, clinton cluelessness is only part of the explanation for this monumental blunder; other critical components include clinton cowardice, criminality, rapaciousness and, that which permeates everything clinton, concern for his/their noxious legacy.)

Notwithstanding this, to hear clinton tell it, his disastrous decision not to take bin Laden when offered up on a silver platter by Sudan, (arguably the worst decision ever made by a president), derived from his scrupulous avoidance of abusing power and trashing laws...

Yeah, right.

 

HEAR:

 

• the attacks on America

   

• Dan Rather ruminating on the terrorism that came to America "bigtime" during clinton years

   

• Dan Rather report of threat by OBL protégé, Ramzi Yousef to clinton FBI ("We WILL complete the job.")

   

• the clinton non-response to terror

   

• FDR response (says national security a president's raison d'être)

   

• Bush response, "I can hear YOU...," "I will not wait on events, while dangers gather," etc.

   

• Mike Moran "Osama bin Laden, you can kiss my royal Irish ass" battle cry

   

• "go home hillary!" chant, etc.

hear

THE CLINTONS--AMERICA'S BIGGEST BLUNDER
Hear Bush 41 Warn Us--October 19, 1992*

 

 
hear
*Thanx to Cloud William for text and audio

 

LEHRER: President Bush, your closing statement, sir.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Three weeks from now--two weeks from tomorrow, America goes to the polls and you're going to have to decide who you want to lead this country ...

On foreign affairs, some think it's irrelevant. I believe it's not. We're living in an interconnected world...And if a crisis comes up, ask who has the judgment and the experience and, yes, the character to make the right decision?

And, lastly, the other night on character Governor Clinton said it's not the character of the president but the character of the presidency. I couldn't disagree more. Horace Greeley said the only thing that endures is character. And I think it was Justice Black who talked about great nations, like great men, must keep their word.

And so the question is, who will safeguard this nation, who will safeguard our people and our children? I need your support, I ask for your support. And may God bless the United States of America.

(Applause)

play tape

Lib Author Regrets Voting (TWICE!) for clinton
"Sickened" by clinton's Failure to Protect America from Terrorism

MUST-READ BOOK FOR DEMOCRATS:
How clintons' Failures Unleashed Global Terror
(Who in his right mind would ever want the clintons back in the Oval Office?)

The Man Who Warned America
(Why a Rapist is Not a Fit President)

UDAY: "The end is near… this time I think the… Americans are serious, Bush is not like Clinton."

 

[Mia T]

he clintons' malfeasance-malpractice constellation was both a necessary and sufficient cause of 9/11. That is to say, had the clintons (BOTH of them--it was a "co-presidency," remember?) competently and honestly and courageously and selflessly done their job, bin Laden would be but a footnote today; 9/11, and perhaps even more important, the exponential growth of al Qaeda, would not have happened. It's really that simple.

hillary talks: ON MILITARY TACTICS
("The Easy Part")

(viewing movie requires Flash Player 6, available HERE)

missus clinton's REAL virtual office update
http://hillarytalks.blogspot.com
http://virtualclintonlibrary.blogspot.com
http://demmemogate.blogspot.com
http://www.hillarytalks.us
http://www.hillarytalks.org
fiendsofhillary.blogspot.com
fiendsofhillary.us
fiendsofhillary.org
fraudsofhillary.com