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Where are they, Mr. President? (Buchanan about no WMD found so far in Iraq)
WorldNetDaily ^ | Patrick J Buchanan

Posted on 05/07/2003 7:15:56 PM PDT by FairOpinion

After each war, historians sift through the record to discern its real causes. Invariably, they divide into two camps: the court historians who defend the war leaders and the revisionists who prosecute them before the bar of history.

After World War II, the evidence that FDR had steered us into war, while asserting he was doing his best to avert war, was so massive even his court historians admit he lied. Wrote Thomas A. Bailey in FDR's defense, "He was like the physician who must tell the patient lies for his own good."

Roosevelt had cut off Japan's oil, sent the Flying Tigers to China and sought to tempt Japan into attacking a line of picket ships. He had lied about German subs torpedoing U.S. destroyers and Nazi plans to conquer South America and replace the Christian cross with the swastika. This mattered in 1950. For, with Stalin triumphant in Europe and China, it appeared – in Churchill's phrase – that we "had killed the wrong pig."

But today, with the immense focus on the Holocaust, the question is no longer, "Did FDR lie?" But, "Why did we not declare war sooner?"

Vietnam was, in Reagan's phrase, "a noble cause." But because it was a lost cause, it is now said and believed we only went to war because LBJ had misled us about the Tonkin Gulf incident.

The war in Iraq is being portrayed by the president's men as a just and necessary war that removed a mortal peril. But if our victory turns to ashes in our mouths, and we discover that we have inherited our own West Bank in Mesopotamia, the White House will have to explain again why we went there.

In his speech from the deck of the Abraham Lincoln, President Bush told the nation, "With those attacks (of 9-11), the terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States. And war is what they got" – i.e., the invasion of Iraq was payback for the killers of Sept. 11.

But is this the truth? For this war on Iraq was not sold to the nation as retribution for 9-11. Indeed, the ties between Iraqi intelligence and the al-Qaida killers turned out to be bogus War Party propaganda.

We were told, rather, that Saddam had gas and germ weapons and was working on nuclear weapons. And once he had them, he would use them on us, or give them to Osama. "Do you want to wait for a nuclear 9-11?" Americans were asked.

Trusting the president, believing that he had information we did not, a majority of Americans approved of pre-emptive war. But where, now, are the thousands of artillery warheads and terror weapons the president and secretary of state told us Saddam had?

We have scoured Iraq for a month. No Scuds have been found. No chemical or biological weapons. No laboratories or production lines. No evidence that Iraq was building nukes or seeking fissile material.

"Every statement I make today is backed up by ... solid sources," Colin Powell told the United Nations. But since then, his case has crumbled. Were he a district attorney, Colin Powell would be under investigation today for prosecutorial incompetence or possible fraud. One British document he relied on turned out to be a 10-year-old term paper by a graduate student. The documents from Niger proving Iraq was seeking "yellowcake" for nuclear bombs turned out to be forgeries – and crude ones at that.

Who forged them? Why have we not been told? Does the secretary who put his integrity on the line not want to know?

If our occupation of Iraq turns sour and U.S. troops are being shot in the back, a year from now, Americans are going to demand to know. And President Bush could face the charge thrown up in the face of FDR by Clare Boothe Luce, that he "lied us into war."

Both the president and Powell are honorable men. If they misled us, surely it is because they themselves were misled. It is impossible to believe either man would deliberately state as fact what he knew to be false. But the president must find these weapons – or find the men who told him, with such certitude, that Iraq had them.

For there is something strange here. If Saddam had these weapons, why did he not surrender them to save himself? If he did not give them up because he intended to use them on us, why did he not use them on us? And if they were destroyed before the war, why did he not simply show us where, and thereby save himself, his family and his regime?

Last fall, Congress abdicated, surrendered its war-making power to a president who demanded that Congress yield it up. If Congress wishes to redeem itself, it should unearth the truth about why we went to war. Was the official explanation the truth, or was it political cover for an American imperial war?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: buchanan; destruction; finos; iraq; israel; mass; patbuchanan; patrickjbuchanan; patwasright; pitchforkpat; randsconcerntrolls; waronterror; weapons; wmd
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To: woofie
It sure as hell isn't Joshua :-)

I believe it's Joseph

41 posted on 05/07/2003 7:40:31 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Freedom is Ringing)
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To: woofie
What does the J stand for?

Jackass?

42 posted on 05/07/2003 7:41:01 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: Howlin
Howlin wrote: We voted him OFF the party!

Taliban Pat is to the Republican Party like Lyndon La Rouche is to the Democrats.

43 posted on 05/07/2003 7:41:39 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: woofie
Patrick J Buchanan

What does the J stand for?
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Jerk?
44 posted on 05/07/2003 7:41:53 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Howlin
Yep, it can't be too long now before gerald ford pecks out his predictable NYTimes opinion piece on abortion, the Iraq War, abortion, President Bush, abortion, and did he mention yet he was pro-choice when it comes to abortion.

Whatever happened to enjoying life and just taking it easy when the spotlight no longer blinds your sight? Whatever happened to don't call us, we'll call you? It's kinda hard for conservatives to complain about clinton's pie-hole whenever we've got a few of our own.

45 posted on 05/07/2003 7:42:08 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness
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To: dogbyte12
Jackass?

Wasnt that a movie?
46 posted on 05/07/2003 7:42:21 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Alberta's Child
Looks like Pat is in tremendous need for free publicity. However, as a Akhenaton well said, "Put a bridle on thy tongue; set a guard before thy lips, lest the words of thine own mouth destroy thy peace...On much speaking cometh repentance, but in silence is safety."
47 posted on 05/07/2003 7:43:14 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Howlin
Not if there had been a 9-11.

I'll bet there still would have been a lot of complaints here, unless a link between Iraq and 9/11 had been clearly established.

48 posted on 05/07/2003 7:43:31 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
LOL.......and a bottle of their best non-selling champagne. ; *)

The only thing is though if Pat would move to France, I think under their law he would have to frenchify his first name. What is french for Patrick, Patrice?

49 posted on 05/07/2003 7:43:33 PM PDT by Dane
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To: FairOpinion
I believe the Bush administration already has a cache of WMD captured from Iraq.

I believe they will wait until the cache is very large, and then they will reveal it.

50 posted on 05/07/2003 7:44:06 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Or more simply put: "It is better to stay silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt".

No doubt remains about Pat.
51 posted on 05/07/2003 7:44:45 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Mr. Buchanan is hisrory.

If anyone doubts this just wait for the elections next year. Bush will win in a land slide.

I have been waiting for these days since I woke up in "88" and realized I was a Republican.

Happy day's are here again!

52 posted on 05/07/2003 7:45:13 PM PDT by OneVike
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To: CWOJackson
people taking shots are pat but not disputing his facts

That seems to be all this thread consists of, so far.

53 posted on 05/07/2003 7:45:18 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: speedy
Yep, I think this just about seals the case against Buchanan, if it needed to still be sealed. He has come full circle to being basically just another anti-American whiner. Sad to witness his slow meltdown.

I agree that it's said. Pat is not always wrong. But lately he has revealed that he has some fatally bad positions.

54 posted on 05/07/2003 7:45:48 PM PDT by the_doc
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To: freedombrigade
I can't figure him out. Sunday on McLaughlin he was praising the heck out of GWB and now he's sticking him. He praised Bush and said how proud he was of him on the USS A. Lincoln.

He did the same thing on MSNBC today--he was gushing about Bush. I figure that Pat's like Arafat: he says one thing in English and the other in Arabic. In Pat's case, he says one thing in English (on TV) and the other in German (in print).

55 posted on 05/07/2003 7:46:19 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: FairOpinion

Buck Fuchanan


56 posted on 05/07/2003 7:46:41 PM PDT by tuna_battle_slight_return
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Yeah, but wasn't ahkenaten murdered along with much of his family, and his son Tutankhaten put on the throne, his name changed to Tutankhamen, to reflect the priests desire to go back to the multiple god universe before they eventually killed Tut at the age of 17?

I really have no point, I just wanted to use this trivia in a conversation and have never had a chance until now.

57 posted on 05/07/2003 7:47:01 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: freedombrigade
"I can't figure him out. Sunday on McLaughlin he was praising the heck out of GWB and now he's sticking him. He praised Bush and said how proud he was of him on the USS A. Lincoln.

"Now, this crap...split personality or something..."

Pat knows his limitations. And his markets. In an open forum, like McLaughlin, he has to address reality so as to maintain his credibility.

But, in his columns and in his books, where he is speaking to his audience, it's important to write what they want to read -- if he wants them to buy his next book.

Which, of course, he does...

58 posted on 05/07/2003 7:47:09 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: FairOpinion
I thought about that one, too. :-)
59 posted on 05/07/2003 7:48:05 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Alberta's Child
I'm thinking you might have heard a lot of carping because he wouldn't do anything about it, except talk.
60 posted on 05/07/2003 7:48:20 PM PDT by Howlin
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