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Boy's bear visit speaks volumes about hunt
http://www.northjersey.com ^ | Thursday, May 22, 2003 | By RICHARD COWEN

Posted on 05/22/2003 6:58:40 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK

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To: facedown
I really don't want to sound like an ass here, but have you ever seen a bear?

I'm not sure my 3 1/2 inch shells with .00 buck will do the job with one shot on that. I'll be playing it safe with them if I have to shoot it.

41 posted on 05/22/2003 10:19:03 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("It's the same ole story, same ole song and dance, my friend")
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
DYFS spokesman Joseph Delmar said the agency heard about the incident and sent the case worker to make sure the child had been properly supervised. Delmar would not comment on the investigation.

When I was a small child, I wandered out of the store I was in with my mother and walked out into the middle of a busy street. Good thing the DYFS wasn't around then.

I am amazed to hear of a bear in New Jersey.

42 posted on 05/22/2003 10:23:31 PM PDT by independentmind
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But it was a knock on the door after midnight that had Django Tregidgo upset.

It was a DYFS case worker, wanting to know why the child had been left unattended to wander onto the porch, and for how long. "I told him to get out of the house or I was going to call the cops," Tregidgo said. "What gives them the right to come at 12:30 at night?"

The case worker departed after a brief interview.

DYFS spokesman Joseph Delmar said the agency heard about the incident and sent the case worker to make sure the child had been properly supervised. Delmar would not comment on the investigation.

This is the most frightening part of the story.

Gratuitous BTW: Yipee. I get to pick up my (Alaskan) brown bear rug from the taxidermist this summer.

43 posted on 05/23/2003 1:54:39 AM PDT by FreeRadical (GunDealers.com - Buy Guns for Kids and Help them Learn to Hate Marxists.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK; isthisnickcool; yall
Thanks for the 'bear' facts, hehehe !!
44 posted on 05/23/2003 2:12:57 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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Talk about BS, this is BS.

You need to learn something about bears before calling someones statement BS. Even weak little people often kill an attacker after receiving mulitple Fatal hits before they die. A bear is a very tough animal with thick hide and a lot of heavy fat. A charging bear is a very determined animal, you don't just sorta whack it on the nose with a newspaper to make it go away. An enraged female bear with cubs is,IMO, the most dangerous animal in North America, and a good contender for the most dangerous in the world. If you don't believe me and end up in a hostile encounter with a bear someday, you'll likely end up dead and not be around to tell the story.

I remember reading a story in a mag (Field and Stream, I think) about a hunter that encountered a female bear with cubs while bird hunting. It charged and he fired a twelve guage directly into it's mouth. It still attacked him and almost bit his head off, the only thing saving him being that he had blownn most of the bears jawbone away and it's jaw broke when it bit his skull (he thought he was hearing his skull breaking open). The bear went away after severely mauling him, leaving him for dead, and wildlife rangers persued it after rescuing him. The bear, when found, charged the rangers and took numerous 12 gauge hits, any of which would have been fatal by itself, before dying without giving up it's attack on the Rangers.

There used to be a fair sized stuffed brown bear (I think, it's been a long time since I saw it. It may have been a black bear) on display at a museum in denver that had been killed by a hunter. He shot it with an arrow and it almost tore him apart and then left him for dead. It was later found dead with the arrow penetrating it's heart. It was a female, presumably with cubs.

45 posted on 05/23/2003 5:16:08 AM PDT by templar
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Great graphic! ROFL!
46 posted on 05/23/2003 6:33:29 AM PDT by Calpernia (The person who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Laws or no laws. If people are stupid enough to feed the bears, a law won't stop them.

It is sad too that laws are replacing common sense and judgement.
47 posted on 05/23/2003 6:42:45 AM PDT by Calpernia (The person who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK; Calpernia
New Jersey - Your Help Is Needed To Protect Our Hunting Heritage
http://www.nra.org/frame.cfm?title=NRA%20Institute%20for%20Legislative%20Action&url=http://www.nraila.org

Bear swats Sparta toddler
http://www.dailyrecord.com/news/articles/news1-BEAR.htm

Bear Kills Infant In Upstate N.Y.
Bear Dragged 5-Month-Old Away From Summer Bungalow Colony
http://cbsnewyork.com/siteSearch/news_story_1364547158_html

Kill the humans and save the Bears, the spotted owls and the whales and don't crack that turtle egg.

You can get fined up to $10,000 for messing with those eggs and baby-killing physicians get paid government and private money $$$ to kill humans! Go figure.

http://endangered.fws.gov/esa.html#Lnk11 http://endangered.fws.gov/wildlife.html#Species
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/785378/posts

The Endangered Species Act of 1973
http://endangered.fws.gov/esaall.pdf
Page 4 Sec 3 (c)(8) don't crack those eggs, one might end the "life" of a bird, fish or turtle. I guess certain "mammals" (humans) do not apply.

The Govt. recognizes that a fertilized egg from an animal is "alive" and protected by LAW (The Endangered Species Act of 1973) and when in a human, in God's image, it's just a blob of "unlive" protoplasm which can be aspirated if it's the mother's "choice" to do so with no protections under the 5th and 14th Amendments to the Constitution.

I love animals, they taste good!
48 posted on 05/23/2003 9:58:04 PM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight)
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To: Dan from Michigan
How can people be so STUPID?

Apparently, you have never meet one of the environ-morons that live in the state of NJ. Most of these people think that Yogi is running around snacking on trash cans. The Bear problem has been out of control for many years now. When I was a kid, back in the 70s, I can remember seeing a bear every so often while hunting deer here in NJ. With no organized conservation for so long in this state it is no wonder things are out of control. What the "Ban the bear hunt" MORONS haven't figured out yet is that controlled conservation makes the bear population STRONGER and HEALTHER! I have had several run-ins with these people and can vouch for a fact that they are twits down to the last one. All of them haven’t a clue when it comes to understanding the balance of nature. I am constantly seeing mangy looking bears on the hunt for food around here. The state really needs to address the problem of POPULATION and management. It’s time to dismiss the MORONS and get something done!

49 posted on 07/06/2003 4:35:56 PM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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