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Clintonistas on 9/11 Commission Hunt for Bush Cover-up
newsmax ^ | May 24, 2003 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 05/24/2003 6:10:13 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

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To: Defender2
All Hitlery and Billy Boy have to do is look in the mirror and they will see who is responsible for 9/11.
81 posted on 05/25/2003 1:46:03 PM PDT by freekitty (W)
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To: Defender2
#73. One of those strip alerts previously cut back prior to that day (under Clinton) was Atlantic City, N.J...not to quibble, since I'm obviously not as up on this as you are, but there is still a very active Air National Guard squadron in Pomona, N.J., right outside of Atlantic City. Local news reports after 911 said that fighters from that base were among the first into the air and arriving in D.C. the morning of the attack - maybe this is not the operation to which you're referring, or maybe it was reinstituted by Bush?.......
82 posted on 05/25/2003 8:35:19 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ
the unit there I am very familiar with. Unfortunately for budgetary cutbacks previously, they were not on official status that fateful morning as they had been for years. Later that morning(post attack) along with all the other sites around the country(19) along with the 7 which were on status which had been previously cut were restored to official alert status.
83 posted on 05/25/2003 8:55:52 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2
Thank you - that helps clear it up - I knew those jets flying over my house periodically day and night weren't purely a figment of my imagination.....
84 posted on 05/25/2003 9:13:00 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ
If you would like to read about how our Air Defense evolved, and subsequent questions will arise about what happened to it over the years after reading it, I suggest
strongly this book, "the Emerging Shield, the air force and the Evolution of Continental Air Defence, 1945-1960", by the author, Kenneth Schaffel, published by the Office of Air Force History, ISBN 0-912799-60-9. -ISBN 0-912799-61-7 (pbk.)
85 posted on 05/25/2003 9:53:10 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Alamo-Girl; amom; piasa; Howlin
Please see my post#85 above
86 posted on 05/25/2003 9:59:54 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2
Thank you for the information! Hugs!
87 posted on 05/25/2003 10:50:11 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
You're Welcome, Alamo-Girl!!!!:-) Hugs!!!!:-)
88 posted on 05/25/2003 10:52:07 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Also, Alamo-Girl, piasa put an awful lot of information on this thread that I believe should be included in your DSL.
A very comprehensive timeline. When you have the time, please read piasa's posts. some of them were addressed to
me. However this is definitely DSL material. Mansoor stored
a lot of this information. So here's a heads up for you!:-)
89 posted on 05/25/2003 11:00:21 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2
Thank you so much for the heads up! It is a wonderful timeline! The information is timely and valuable on its own right (more than just a subtopic to Clinton) and I hope it will have its own webpage.
90 posted on 05/25/2003 11:54:51 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
I knew you would know it's important info, you're welcome,
Alamo-Girl!!!!:-)
91 posted on 05/26/2003 1:13:30 AM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2
First, what is your source for the claim that NORAD used to have radar looking at US airspace and that Clinton was responsible for cutting it?

NORAD's own website clearly says - "Until the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, NORAD's focus was almost exclusively fixed on threats coming toward the Canadian and American borders, not terrorism in our domestic airspace. Because of that day, NORAD's focus has increased to include domestic airspace. NORAD's mission is truly global."

Second, if NORAD did have inward looking radar that would have cut out the delay in getting info from the FAA, but they still did not have authorization to shoot those planes down.

Here's what Gen. Arnold said in the recent hearings - "To my knowledge, I did not have the authority to shoot it down at that time," he said. Of Flight 77, he said, "Even if we were there, I don't think we would have shot it down."

Maybe you know more about NORAD than he does?
92 posted on 05/26/2003 1:27:07 AM PDT by stevem99
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To: Defender2
Military base closures have been going on for a long time now under both Bush I and Clinton. The bases were selected by the DoD and a bipartisan Congressional committee. In fact, Clinton was criticized for trying to get some AF bases taken off the list (i.e., kept open) in states where he wanted to score points.

The fact that bases were closed doesn't mean that it had any effect on NORAD. Prior to 9/11 there were only 7 bases with combat-ready jets, each with 2 F15/16s. The number of jets on the runway ready to intercept has been steadily falling for the past 30 years under a variety of Presidents, Democratic and Republican. In the case of DC there already were at least two open AF bases closer than Langley, where the intercepts were launched. Did Clinton make the decision to have those jets in Langley rather than Andrews?

Show me any reliable source that indicates that Clinton closed AF bases that were part of NORAD's mission and that were close to 9/11 targets.

Personally I think you're blowing hot air.

93 posted on 05/26/2003 1:55:20 AM PDT by stevem99
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To: Alamo-Girl; Defender2
Actually, Alamo-Girl, I think a lot of the material- the Clinton era Korea/China items) came from you in the first place!
94 posted on 05/26/2003 3:56:10 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa
That is very encouraging to know! Thank you so much!!! And it drives home the point that data gathered here and there has meaning in context - kind of like pixels v the image you see on the screen. Hugs!
95 posted on 05/26/2003 7:30:43 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: stevem99
#93,94 see my post #85 above.
96 posted on 05/26/2003 11:09:31 AM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple
See the timeline up above for some more fun quotes from the rats.

1998 : (TOM DASCHLE, DICK GEPHARDT SUPPORT IMMEDIATE ACTION AGAINST IRAQ - BUT HAVE DUAL "SENIOR MOMENTS" LATER ON IN 2003 AND FORGET HWAT THEY ORIGINALLY SUPPORTED) The two Democratic congressional leaders, Sen. Tom Daschle and Rep. Dick Gephardt, issued a joint statement hailing Clinton's "correct decision to undertake military action against Iraq at this time." Indeed, they added, "Any delay would have given Saddam Hussein time to recontitute his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction." - "DEM DOUBLE-TAKE (or...Hypocrites On Parade), " by ERIC FETTMANN, New York Post October 10, 2002

97 posted on 07/17/2003 8:55:39 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
BTTT for an early true prediction of current events. (However, the Clintonistas make it pretty easy. Leopards don't change spots, after all.)
98 posted on 04/16/2004 5:46:26 PM PDT by CedarDave (Dem campaign strategy: Tell a lie today & it becomes "truth" tomorrow. Pubbie strategy: Ignore Dems)
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To: CyberAnt
Regardless of these 2 bozos - who the dems think will insulate them from any accountability for 9/11 - I believe this will end up backfiring on the dems.

Has it ever:

See this:

Documents regarding Gorelick ---as keyword

99 posted on 04/16/2004 6:04:51 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
That's a great link - Thanks so much.
100 posted on 04/16/2004 7:26:29 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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