Mary Cheney ducks out of GOP gay group

Advocate ^ | June 2, 2003 | Advocate

[Sonny M]

Sick. Just sick and twisted.

Its not just about tax cuts, its also about whats right and whats wrong.

[Rennes Templar]

Are the Republican overtures to gays part of "compassionate conservatism"? Like sending money to aids victims in Africa?
Is it a way to garner gay votes? If it keeps on, eventually the Dems will become irrelevant, and it'll be the GOP and the Libertarians.

[nicollo]

Eating their own?

[Sonny M]

If it keeps on, eventually the Dems will become irrelevant, and it'll be the GOP and the Libertarians.

Not likely, it'll be a democrat party and a green party. The republican party, does have a social wing that is quite different from the democrats, its pro-life, its pro-religion, if people can't see a difference between the 2 parties, they will choose the original, and differentiate with the extreme.

The republican party can't abandon a large solid part of its base, for a smaller part of somone elses and hope to win.

[Clint N. Suhks]

The Right is calling into question what little outreach the party had to gay voters at the crossroads of an election season.

Maybe because “the party” shouldn’t be concerned with special rights for chosen behavior. Smaller government isn’t a riddle. We will welcome them for reparation and healing in faith-based or non-faith-based organizations but giving them ANY political accommodation is contrary to everyone but Liberaltarians.

[upchuck]

Cheny: "We can make sexual orientation a nonissue^* for the Republican Party, and we can help achieve equality for all gay and lesbian Americans."

In order to do this we pubbies are gonna have to give up the strong Judeo-Christian base of our party. I ain't interested, how 'bout you?

^*"Nonissue" is a code word for shrugging your shoulders.^ Something else I'm not keen on.

"At the core of the program was a media campaign to change the way the average citizens viewed homosexuality by desensitizing them concerning homosexuals and homosexual rights."

[sinkspur]

We will welcome them for reparation and healing in faith-based or non-faith-based organizations but giving them ANY political accommodation is contrary to everyone but Liberaltarians.

It's not contrary to Bush's thinking.

One doesn't have to agree with a group to accept their vote or support.

That's Ronald Reagan's accommodation, and it's pretty wise.

[sinkspur]

Cheny: "We can make sexual orientation a nonissue* for the Republican Party.

Sexual orientation should be a non-issue for the GOP.

[Clint N. Suhks]

It's not contrary to Bush's thinking.

What political accommodation is Bush giving?

[Kevin Curry]

Sexual orientation should be a non-issue for the GOP.

It was until gay activists made it an issue.

[sinkspur]

What political accommodation is Bush giving?

He's gladly accepting their votes.

[Sonny M]

That's Ronald Reagan's accommodation, and it's pretty wise.

Reagan didn't bend to anyone, they bent to him. Politically speaking, as I said before, it is not logical, to alienate a large solid part of your base, for a smaller part of somone else's base.

If the democrats went about trying to expand the base by appealing to eastern european immigrants, they would alienate the minority part of there own base. To do such would be foolish.

[Clint N. Suhks]

Sexual orientation should be a non-issue for the GOP.

Right, the GOP should not recognize a behavioral pathology in any plank of their platform other than for reparation and treatment.

[Sonny M]

Sexual orientation should be a non-issue for the GOP.

Out of curiosity, outside of economic issues, what would the difference then be, between the GOP and the democratic party? Abortion and thats it I assume?

[Clint N. Suhks]

He's gladly accepting their votes.

He gladly accepts votes from incestuals too for that matter.

[sinkspur]

Right, the GOP should not recognize a behavioral pathology in any plank of their platform other than for reparation and treatment.

It doesn't.

The GOP is not into "fixing" gays, either, as the track record for "reparation and treatment" is pretty poor.

[sinkspur]

He gladly accepts votes from incestuals too for that matter.

Or from dimwits, as your vote in 2000 attested.

[sinkspur]

Out of curiosity, outside of economic issues, what would the difference then be, between the GOP and the democratic party? Abortion and thats it I assume?

Nope. Just look at who's in the Democrat party.

Pretty big difference, if you ask me.

[Clint N. Suhks]

The GOP is not into "fixing" gays, either, as the track record for "reparation and treatment" is pretty poor.

It may be but you wouldn't know unless you have some statistics no one else has. Either way, like for drug addicts, we should offer them help if they seek it.