Mary Cheney ducks out of GOP gay group

Advocate ^ | June 2, 2003 | Advocate

[Clint N. Suhks]

I doubt every single one of them was a solid person.

He knows that, sinkspur is just playing his usual games.

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

If it keeps on, eventually the Dems will become irrelevant, and it'll be the GOP and the Libertarians.

I'd call that major progress.

[ffusco]

Just a thought, a so called Gay GOP group might more willing to dicuss being "fixed" rationaly. If they are the enemy, we should get to know the most reasonable among them.
Another benfit to a stronger "Gay GOP" might be higher standards of decorum for all gays.

[longtermmemmory]

agreed it is a desensitizing effort but it is not working. The thought nazi's are producing a generation of kids who are even MORE vicious toward the homosexual lifestyle as a result of being threated with expulsion for merely calling anyone a homo, fag, or even gay.

Contrary to o'reily, it DOES matter. If shepard smith is a homosexual it will affect viewers.

In order to get the shrug, they have to eliminate all forms of sexual no-no's like adult incest and polygamy. You can't disregard just one form of taboo.

[longtermmemmory]

Cheny: "We can make sexual orientation a nonissue* for the Republican Party.
Sexual orientation should be a non-issue for the GOP.
*** * * * * *

the non issue should be the homosexual lifestyle is wrong and should be taught to children as an undesireable lifestyle choice. The non-issue must be that children must be taught homosexuality is wrong.

[Clint N. Suhks]

a so called Gay GOP group might more willing to dicuss being "fixed" rationaly.

I dought it but who knows. I’m for any reasonable solution to help with their therapy and I don’t mind the government giving vouchers for such.

Another benfit to a stronger "Gay GOP" might be higher standards of decorum for all gays.

The only decorum the GOP should recognize for homosexuals is compassion for their pathology.

[longtermmemmory]

so is a homosexual cure program tax deductible and insurance payable like an alcholism or sex addiction program?

[Clint N. Suhks]

I don't know, sounds resonable to me. Maybe that would eliminate the gonvernment as middle man. Voucher vs. tax deduction? Hmmm...

[chuckles]

If the repubs loose the Christian Right, then they loose their base. Probably 30-40% repubs go to church and pray before meals. They won't vote for some compromise party for a tax cut. Their beliefs mean something to them.

On the other hand, Bush could slap a homo at the convention and loose about 100 votes.

[Greybird]

Egads, that Dick Cheney, tolerating an open pervert in his own family. If he had any cojones, he'd have had her sent to a solitary cell at Guantanamo Bay by now. Wouldn't he? I guess he's sucking up to the Sodomites, so Bush had better drop him from the '04 ticket before it's too late. Right? ... Right?

{/sarcasm OFF}

[merry10]

I welcome republican gays to my faction of the republican party.

[ConsistentLibertarian]

If same sex preferences were a non-issue, on a par with heterosexual preferences, you could have two gay men living together, never mentioning the wild, passionate, satisfying sex they have with each other (just as most heterosexual couples tend not to go public with that info), and one of them could run in the Republican primaries to be the Republican presidential candidate while their same sex partner stood by and supported him -- the way people involved with each other often do.

That's not making an issue of sexual orientation. It's just living your life without other people making an issue out of who you sleep with.

Sound good to you?

[GraniteStateConservative]

Nader isn't running again.

[GraniteStateConservative]

Ask some FReepers and they'd suggest stoning, not a stay in Gitmo.

[EverOnward]

The GOP overall supports Guns, vouchers, a sensible environmental policy, support for the military and national security, pro tax reform, respect for religion, pro scouting, pro tort reform, conservative judiciary, pro law and order, pro life, pro individual responsibility,...

Where's the "pro-jobs for Americans?"

[Clint N. Suhks]

I welcome republican gays to my faction of the republican party.

You go girl. You can have all the homosexuals in your faction you want.

[Clint N. Suhks]

Egads, that Dick Cheney, tolerating an open pervert in his own family.

I know, and he still pretends to be a conservative. Goes to show you, you can raise your children to know right and wrong and then they turn into Liberaltarians.
Right?...Right?

< /no sarcasm intended>

[George W. Bush]

bump

sinkspur and some others seem eager to dismiss the entire agenda of Log Cabin. If sodomites want to vote Republican based on shared values, then the religious right has no objection. However, what's not recognized by these same people is that Log Cabin is an effort to carry the radical gay agenda into the GOP. Their strategy is to eject and nullify the religous right in their natural home in the GOP.

60%-70% of the Republican party voters are willing to accommodate the sodomite agenda to the same extent the Dims do. But to do that, they will offend the religious right voters in the GOP base (30%-40% of the GOP). 20% of 5 million sodomite voters doesn't count much against the 20-30 million religious right voters. Politically, it's a disastrous trade. Moreover, the states in which the sodomite voters are most powerful are the states in which the GOP is least competitive, states like California and New York. And there is very little the GOP can do to make itself more attractive to the socialist voters of those states. It's not merely the pro-life/pro-family agenda that loses these states for the GOP. It is far more the GOP economic policies which directly threaten the union and government jobs in those states.

What often surprises me is that some of the supposed pro-lifers in the GOP seem to think that the sodomy issue is entirely separate. But it is well-understood that pro-choice and pro-sodomy amount to the same thing politically as the Dims and Libertarians demonstrate. The two cannot be separated. Pro-choice is pro-gay, pro-life is pro-family (anti-sodomite).

Many of us have no objection to sodomites voting for the GOP and accept the estimates that about 20% of their vote went to Bush in 2000 because the GOP was addressing the issues they cared most about. A good example of the kinds of sodomite groups that are tolerable to the religious right would be groups like the Pink Pistols, a pro-CCW/pro-gun sodomite group. No one objects to them having an interest in voting to preserve their Second Amendment rights and, provided they don't involve us all in their sex lives, their support on such issues is entirely welcomed. There are also some sodomites who are becoming vocally pro-life. Again, their support is broadly welcomed by the religious right. What isn't welcome are special rights for sodomites (adoption, sodomite marriage, etc.).

[AppyPappy]

He's gladly accepting their votes.

Racists vote too. What's he doing for them?

[Remedy]

you could have two gay men living together, never mentioning the wild, passionate, satisfying sex they have with each other (just as most heterosexual couples tend not to go public with that info), and one of them could run in the Republican primaries to be the Republican presidential candidate while their same sex partner stood by and supported him -- the way people involved with each other often do.

That's not making an issue of sexual orientation. It's just living your life without other people making an issue out of who you sleep with.

Sound good to you?

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