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Even Patricia Ireland Used To Be Pro-Life
Washington Dispatch ^ | 6/7/2003 | Kevin M. Jeanfreau

Posted on 06/07/2003 12:49:45 PM PDT by MHGinTN

Jun 7, 2003

Patricia Ireland and her entire side used to be pro-life. Each and every one of them was, when they were young. If you had asked little Miss Ireland while in the first grade what is inside a pregnant woman’s tummy, she would have said a baby. If you had asked if it would be okay to hurt that baby in any way, she would have said no. Try it with a thousand first graders; their answers will all be basically the same. The fact is, as little ones we are naturally pro-life.

Children have been growing up these last three decades, being fed a prodigious diet of anti life, anti family rhetoric, seasoned with subtle “choice” sentiments. Over time, such propaganda slowly becomes “palatable”. Roughly 50 percent of them (us) change from their natural pro-life selves into pro-abortion adults. Sadly, during these same decades, children who have gone through Christian education from kindergarten through 12th grade have not been taught the truth about the sanctity of life and so statistically they are almost as likely to become pro-abortion as those who receive government education. This is the single most important factor why the holocaust continues, yet it remains largely un-addressed by the pro-life movement as well as Christian leaders.

Voting records of Christians show that our schools have not taught the truth about the unborn in an effective way as an option to the lies we’ve all been exposed to.


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To: Cathryn Crawford
A question for you, CC. Any help?
41 posted on 06/07/2003 11:23:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: DPB101
Since you posted your reply as to post #1, perhaps you'd like to enlightened us all as to what was inaccurate or a lie by omission.
42 posted on 06/07/2003 11:28:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
LOL-Glad it got your attention!

Check this one out:

Pictures can teach MORE than a thousand words.

Students can be shown two pictures like above. The teacher can simply explain that they are both of the same person; the first one was taken around New Years day, and the second around the following Christmas.

43 posted on 06/07/2003 11:32:50 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (“My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6)
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To: cake_crumb
I was just wondering. How many abused, abandoned, AIDs infected, and/or starved children are you wiling to take in?
44 posted on 06/07/2003 11:37:47 PM PDT by Fredsterman (How you ask?)
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To: cpforlife.org
It's late here in Tennessee, but that baby's face is a most pleasant end to the evening! Nickcarraway has the little Iraqi girl with the flag on his profile page. That one warms my old heart, also. She has the innocent expression that transcends religions and goes straight to the heart of God!

Someone once told me that baby smiles touch our hearts because the glow comes from so recently being in His presence. I suppose it's kind of like Moses and the shakinah glory, eh?

45 posted on 06/07/2003 11:40:51 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Fredsterman
Are you proposing killing the alive preborn as a means to deal with the social difficulties, or are you just trying to blow smoke with vacuous-brained 'guilt by specious association' comments?
46 posted on 06/07/2003 11:42:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
Bump for life for all babies!
47 posted on 06/07/2003 11:43:14 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: MHGinTN; cpforlife.org
Didn't accuse you or anyone else of being inaccurate or lying.

You want to play namby-pamby, sancity of life, OK by me.

You want to stop the practice, you must name names,tell who profits and what the real agenda is.

Just my opinion of course. I could be wrong.

48 posted on 06/08/2003 12:02:06 AM PDT by DPB101
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To: DPB101
You want to stop the practice, you must name names,tell who profits and what the real agenda is. That's a heck of a way to claim mere 'opinion', using must in your directions. And of course I don't agree completely, but it is not so difficult to get the public documents of building omnerships and abortionists ... but that invites a non-prolife action against such people, doesn't it. Very Rudolphesque, that.
49 posted on 06/08/2003 12:05:00 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: DPB101
DPB101,

This thread is about teaching Christian school students about the sanctity of life, so they will live and VOTE against the culture of death as adults. Let's keep it on topic.
50 posted on 06/08/2003 12:26:35 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (“My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6)
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To: MHGinTN
that invites a non-prolife action against such people, doesn't it. Very Rudolphesque, that.

I don't get it. What is Rudolphesque?

51 posted on 06/08/2003 1:19:36 AM PDT by DPB101
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Even Patricia Ireland Used To Be Pro-Life Wow, I could never have guessed. She is such a heartless, selfish, miserable individual, and she shows it, too.

Even Patricia Ireland Used To Be Human.

52 posted on 06/08/2003 5:23:07 AM PDT by friendly
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks for the heads up!
53 posted on 06/08/2003 7:43:38 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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54 posted on 06/08/2003 9:25:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: RJCogburn; Sacajaweau; Republic If You Can Keep It; afraidfortherepublic; AlbionGirl; ...

Please let me know if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

55 posted on 06/08/2003 10:33:14 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (“My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6)
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To: Fredsterman
I was just wondering. How many abused, abandoned, AIDs infected, and/or starved children are you wiling to take in?

How many homeless people are you willing to take in?

If you are willing to take in several of them, should society decide it's okay to kill all the rest who remain homeless?

56 posted on 06/08/2003 10:36:30 AM PDT by syriacus (Why DO liberals keep describing each other as THOUGHTFUL individuals?)
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; attagirl; Coleus
Pro-Life project PING!

Please share your thoughts and ideas about this article.
57 posted on 06/08/2003 10:46:11 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (“My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6)
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To: MHGinTN
It's true. Plain old logic dictates that a person (at any stage of development) is a person.

I think the pro-death crowd have been permitted to co-opt a position they do not deserve. They demand proof from pro-lifers that a fetus is a human person.

The argument should be the other way around. The pro-aborts should have to prove that fetuses are not human beings ("persons").

Along those same lines are these words from the FR thread THE LUKE SKYFREEPER ABORTION DOCTRINE

But plenty of "rational thinking people" think pure logic would dictate that, at any stage, "a human individual is a human individual is a human individual is a human individual."

I thought scientific (rational) people liked answers to be elegantly simple, not overly complicated.

How can the hodge-podge of pro-abort positions be seen as elegantly simple?

The muddle-headed pro-aborts

For too long, the right-to-lifers have been told they have to prove the fetus is a human person.

It's time for "right-to-deathers" to defend their position that particular fetuses are not human beings, worthy of being called persons.

It's time for pro-aborts to defend their position that it is okay to kill a fetus just because it is not "fully formed," or it is handicapped or it is "unwanted."

58 posted on 06/08/2003 10:51:10 AM PDT by syriacus (Why DO liberals keep describing each other as THOUGHTFUL individuals?)
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To: All
There is a political strategy to pro-life education in schools as well. Here in Louisiana we have Senator Mary Landrieu. She won her first term in 1996 by less than a 6,000-vote margin. This past December she won her second term by a much wider margin. Louisiana has a VERY high percentage of practicing Catholic and Protestant voters. She could not have won without them. If these voters would have been thoroughly educated on LIFE BEFORE BIRTH, Landrieu probably would never have been elected. Both her opponents were strong pro-lifers.

Factor in other important political races for U.S. Senate. If this were started in 1973, we could have SEVERAL Robert Borks on the SCOTUS right now. Klinton might never been prez.

Consider too the other conservative issues Bush could be advancing if the DemoRats couldn’t block him!
59 posted on 06/08/2003 11:42:17 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (“My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6)
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60 posted on 06/08/2003 12:27:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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