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Stop Wild Sky Wilderness Area, Action Needed!!!!!
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Posted on 06/08/2003 10:25:40 PM PDT by nwconservative

A copy of an e-mail I received. Action is needed!!!! Revived Wild Sky bill gets a hearing

(Note: This is part of the implementation intent of The Wildlands Project, or TWP. It is part of making a ‘no humans corridor’: the ‘Yellowstone 2 Yukon.’ Does this raise any Regd Flags? If not, it sure should! Now, how many times and places has this tired old quote been used: “ ... boost tourism and recreation"?


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A copy of an e-mail I received. Action is needed!!!! Revived Wild Sky bill gets a hearing

(Note: This is part of the implementation intent of The Wildlands Project, or TWP. It is part of making a ‘no humans corridor’: the ‘Yellowstone 2 Yukon.’ Does this raise any Regd Flags? If not, it sure should! Now, how many times and places has this tired old quote been used: “ ... boost tourism and recreation” ? Also, there is a true statement from Washington Wildlife Federation President Mark Heckert: “It is getting harder and harder to find places for outdoor recreation. It seems everywhere is private, logged or crowded.” Funny ... his organization and other ‘wilderness advocacy groups,’ or WAGs, have done much to see to it that this dilemma occurs! One last, very, VERY important item to consider: “ ... the bill would make the area unreachable to the average Snohomish family and make fighting fires more difficult, if bridges and roads are closed.” Okay, now how many readers still think that a ‘Wild Sky Wilderness’ is a good idea? Everyone that raised his/her hand, please reread this article until you understand. While the though may persist, NIMBY, to the rural Snohomish folks, YOU are their NIMBY!)

June 5, 2003

By Katherine Pfleger

Seattle Times Washington bureau

kpfleger@seattletimes.com

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/

To submit a Letter to the Editor: opinion@seattletimes.com

Washington, D.C. - A proposal to create a wilderness area in Snohomish County is back.

Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, chairman of the Senate forests and public-lands subcommittee, said the Wild Sky Wilderness proposal is nearly ready to pass the Senate. But the question remains: Will it make it through the House this year?

The 106,000-acre swath of mountains and forest in the Mount Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest would be Washington’s first new wilderness area in almost 20 years. The area is home to lynx, grizzly bear and possibly the northern spotted owl. Wild Sky was first proposed three years ago.

Created under the 1964 Wilderness Act, wilderness designations are the most stringent protection for federal lands. They generally prohibit roads or permanent structures as well as mining, logging and most vehicular traffic.

Though Craig has concerns about the bill, such as how to handle maintenance on roads and culverts that are in the area, he said he could work with the bill’s chief Senate sponsor, Patty Murray, D-Wash., and other advocates to address those issues.

But Mark Rey, the Agriculture Department undersecretary who oversees the Forest Service, testified at a Senate committee hearing yesterday that the administration has “significant concerns” about 16,000 acres of the proposal, many of which are low-elevation forests. He said they have been harvested and mined during the past 80 years and don’t display truly pristine qualities.

Murray considers those acres the crux of the proposal.

Rey also would like Congress to clarify the Forest Service’s authority to repair roads and culverts in the area, which may need emergency repairs. To remove the roads and culverts, he said, would cost $6 million.

When pressed by Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., however, Rey said the president would sign the bill into law, in part because of the bipartisan support in the state’s congressional delegation. “This is a good bill,” he said.

All eight of the state’s congressional Democrats support the bill, as does Rep. Jennifer Dunn, R-Bellevue.

Jessica Gleason, spokeswoman for Rep. “Doc” Hastings, R-Pasco, said he hasn’t opposed action on the bill.

Rep. George Nethercutt, R-Spokane, has not taken a position on it, said his spokeswoman April Gentry.

Last year, the Senate passed the bill, but it never cleared the House.

This session, Rep. Rick Larsen, D-Lake Stevens, introduced it again, but the Resources Committee has yet to schedule a hearing.

A Republican congressional staff member said former Resources Chairman James Hansen, R-Utah, who has retired, blocked the bill last year over undisclosed concerns from at least one House member.

The proposal is essentially the same, so those concerns may remain.

Environmentalists at yesterday’s hearing said the Wild Sky bill would protect 25 miles of salmon and steelhead spawning streams and 14,000 acres of rare, low-elevation, old-growth trees. They welcomed the proposed closure of about 13 miles of logging roads.

“It is getting harder and harder to find places for outdoor recreation. It seems everywhere is private, logged or crowded,” Washington Wildlife Federation President Mark Heckert said in testimony.

But opponents said many individuals in communities near the proposal, such as Index and Sultan, have been blindsided by the legislation, which they said has more support from Seattleites than rural residents.

“Support for Wild Sky has been greatly, if not deceptively, overstated,” said Ed Husman, a Sky Valley resident and Snohomish County Farm Bureau board member.

Three of the five Snohomish County Council members Gary Nelson, John Koster and Jeff Sax told Craig in a letter this week that the proposal would hurt a local economy already in the doldrums by restricting logging and mining.

They also said the bill would make the area unreachable to the average Snohomish family and make fighting fires more difficult, if bridges and roads are closed.

Mike Town, a Redmond High School science teacher who frequents the Wild Sky area, testified that he and other supporters consider it “a perfect candidate” for protection, which would boost tourism and recreation.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/134908201_wildsky05m.html

1 posted on 06/08/2003 10:25:40 PM PDT by nwconservative
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To: nwconservative; farmfriend; madfly
Bumping and pinging!
2 posted on 06/08/2003 10:35:32 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. -- P.J.)
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To: nwconservative
Where I go grouse hunting and where I've scouted out for an Elk hunt (big elk with a clockwatch dawn water run and a nice downhill shot and a downhill less than a mile trek with the elk to the truck) is smack dab in this area.

All the stupid news articles on this in the local papers left out every possible reason to be against it.

Basically the opposition was listed as the "Farm Bureau says it's not necessary and it's not really wilderness."

How much do you want to bet that once it's declared a Wilderness Area you will need to harness a sled dog team to access the area?
3 posted on 06/08/2003 10:35:37 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Soccer Mom's flee the Rats for Bush in his flight suit: I call this the Moisture Factor. MF high!)
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To: CyberCowboy777
Can you do your ping-a-ling thing please?
4 posted on 06/08/2003 10:38:56 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Soccer Mom's flee the Rats for Bush in his flight suit: I call this the Moisture Factor. MF high!)
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To: dixiechick2000; marsh2; Mama_Bear; doug from upland; WolfsView; Issaquahking; amom; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.

5 posted on 06/08/2003 11:28:37 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: farmfriend
do u ever sleep?
6 posted on 06/09/2003 2:42:44 AM PDT by countrydummy
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!
7 posted on 06/09/2003 3:08:49 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: farmfriend
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.

FF, Add my "name" please. Wilderness areas remove access possibilities to all but the wealthy and their sycophants. In a word, Socialism. Peace and love, George.

8 posted on 06/09/2003 5:44:23 AM PDT by George Frm Br00klyn Park (FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!)
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To: nwconservative
How exactly does setting up areas where humans CAN'T go increase tourism and recreation?
9 posted on 06/09/2003 6:27:22 AM PDT by TheBattman (Big Brother is closer than you would like to know......)
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To: nwconservative
Wilderness is what our forefathers spent a lifetime getting rid of. It was dangerous, even deadly, and you couldn't grow food or live there unless you were a mountain man married to someone who shunned the usual amenities . Let us not let their legacy be trod upon by those who wouldn't know an agenda if it ate them. There is sufficient remaining wilderness in this country to last another millenium and then some, at which point we will all be well past this unscientific stupidity. God save us from environmental idiots.
10 posted on 06/09/2003 7:34:03 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: TheBattman
Good question to ask that school teacher (who is molding minds full of mush for the future).

BTTT

11 posted on 06/09/2003 9:35:01 AM PDT by hattend
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To: George Frm Br00klyn Park
I will add you. Thanks for letting me know.
12 posted on 06/09/2003 9:39:45 AM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: countrydummy
do u ever sleep?

Yes. Just can't get to sleep at a normal hour. Once I'm there, I'm there for a while. Hubby didn't wake me up this morning and got up around 9:30. Too late. Feel like crap.

13 posted on 06/09/2003 9:42:21 AM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: wita
Ask that question of our esteemed congresswoman, Jennifer Dunn. She turned her backs on landowners and supported the measure last year, apparently favoring some big donors from her district. I no longer have much use for Jennifer Dunn. Something is wrong when she turned her back on the grassroots siding with Patty Murray and Rick Arson.
14 posted on 06/09/2003 11:36:38 AM PDT by nwconservative
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To: farmfriend
Am fairly new at FR can you explain all this ping stuff and how does one get added? I am a property rights activist; so add me too what ever you think may be helpful. Thanks

15 posted on 06/09/2003 11:46:16 AM PDT by nwconservative
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To: nwconservative
Happy to add you to my ping list. Check your self search feature in the upper right hand corner.

Here are some helpful threads.
Free Republic Dictionary-Help For Newcomers

THE LEXICON OF FREEREPUBLIC (More help for newcomers)

16 posted on 06/09/2003 12:37:47 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: nwconservative
This is the same BS they are doing inside the Delaware Watergap National Recreation Area, only on a smaller scale.
They have closed some smaller bridges on backroads, and blocked others completely.
Over in New Jersey, Stokes State Forest has cutoff the only back access they had for fighting fires.
I guess they like the idea of burning down the house.
17 posted on 06/09/2003 2:47:37 PM PDT by Darksheare (Nox aeternus en pax.)
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To: nwconservative
If the urbanites want various rural areas to be uncrowded, I suggest they stay in their cities.
18 posted on 06/09/2003 2:52:02 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: nwconservative
BUMP
19 posted on 06/09/2003 3:25:53 PM PDT by nwconservative
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To: B Knotts
If the urbanites want various rural areas to be uncrowded, I suggest they stay in their cities.

and leave us rural folk alone! We managed our resources quite nicely to take care of the urban people for centuries - they just need to stay out of the way.

20 posted on 06/09/2003 3:38:38 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow
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