He's celibate until marriage, and dates won't tolerate it

Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 15, 2003 | Mary Mitchell

[Salvation]

**Maybe he just likes dating women so he can rebuff their advances?**

I think he is just standing tall for his values of chastity and faithfulness! God bless him!

Sex isn't everyting!

[Salvation]

**Would women a hundred years ago tolerated this?**

Yes, it was considered a virtue, and still is for those with morally sound beliefs!

I say "Bravo" for this guy. He will make a wonderful faithful husband and father someday.

[Salvation]

**So, something was WRONG with the LORD Jesus Christ (who remained celebate until he was -- yep: 33)?**

Wonderful example!

[kms61]

There's another possibility....there are people who find it very difficult, or even impossible, to form relationships, either because of social phobia or for other reasons. Doesn't sound like this guy is in that category, but many are.

[Salvation]

**Today he and his wife are very much in love and have 2 beautiful children. It is such an inspiration and a joy to see how God has richly Blessed their marriage.

I attribute much of that to a young man who had the spiritual insight and strength of character to hold to his convictions, while at the same time, living in a society saturated 24/7 with sexual stimulus.**

Bumping for the truth! And obviously the rewards!

[Paleo Conservative]

The optimal IQ is the average IQ, 100.

No, that is the median, mode, and average IQ assuming a normal distribution. If average IQ were the optimal IQ, why did the average IQ of our ancestors rise over time? Natural selection caused the mean to rise over generations. I think this implies that an IQ above the mean is optimal.

[Buggman]

I wonder how many people who were not virgins when they married, now wish that they had been virgins?

My father, for one. I've tried to learn from his mistakes. (Though given that Jesus taught that one commits adultery just by the act of lusting, I'm a virgin only by bare technicality. :^) )

[Paleo Conservative]

"Why buy the cow when the milk is free?"

OTOH, if one has already bought the cow and the milk dries up, why keep feeding it?

That sounds like something Bill Clinton would say.

[Buggman]

It's a "normal" vs. "abnormal" issue.

Ah, the tyranical cries of the uncontrolled, who demand with all the fervency of a religious fanatic that all men be as uncontrolled as they . . .

Every parent on this board who had a son that had been celibate for 10 years during his 20s, excepting that he was an ordained priest, would seriously wonder if their son wasn't gay, clinically depressed, or have serious psychological issues.

I'm 27. Thus far, my parents remain proud, though they of course look forward to me meeting the woman God has in mind for me so that they can become even prouder grandparents. They're far more concerned with my younger brother, who started having sex at 14, cut a swath through the girls of all four grades of our high school by age 16, got burned out and started experimenting with bisexuality that same year, and "came out of the closet" at 18.

[Buggman]

Finding out that your husband is an "ice king" when you're not is not something you want to have happen after the marriage takes place.

If you're truly committed to each other, you'll find a way to handle it. Frankly, of all the couples I've met who waited until marriage, I've never known any to break up over sex.

[Buggman]

(come on, it's kind of a logical progression.)

Yes, but it's not the only logical progression. Your desire to paint Mr. Washington as some kind of disturbed individual so that you can ignore the point of the article is blinding you to other possibilities.

[Buggman]

A lot of guys are celibate

Not on purpose.

Wanna bet?

[mdmathis6]

I guess your're going to say that Jesus Christ had something wrong with him because he was still celibate at age 33....wait that's right.. he had something more important in mind for all mankind!

[Buggman]

No it isn't. At what point do we stop medicalizing every personal decision or personality trait that not everyone agrees with? Don't like noisy crowds? Well you have a social personality disorder! Decide to go for quality rather than quantity in sex? Well you're a freak and have issues!

Holy $#!? Batman. Garbonzo and I just agreed on something! ;^)

[FLAMING DEATH]

Believe me, I could go to the local watering hole and "hook up" if I so desired.

Sometimes, self-respect overrides the urge to dip your wick.

[Buggman]

If I have any problem, it may be that I'm just too dense to notice the women that may be interested.

LOL I sympathize. At one point in my life, I felt so unlovable that I completely missed two separate girls that were hitting on me. In hindsight, it was obvious. Now, I always wonder what signs I'm missing currently.

[mdmathis6]

You notice that the last 4 letters "bate" appears in both celibate and masturbate....I suppose it's neither here nor there...it just strikes me funny thats all....kind of like this deee-BATE over celibacy. One may masturBATE to stay celiBate while STROKING one's ego in a DeeeBATE. Cigarette any-one?

[FLAMING DEATH]

Yep. I'm not good at reading "signals". Most of the time, I don't have an idea that a woman is interested unless someone tells me.

Some women have hit me over the head and basically said that they want to have hot monkey sex with me. Kind of a turn off, if you ask me. Slutty.

[Paleo Conservative]

I think Condi does intimidate men, and that's too bad. She'd be a great mom...but since she isn't married or a mom, maybe she'd make a great president in 2008 :)

She's never held any elected office. Very few presidents have ever been elected president without previously holding an elective office. All the ones I can think of off the top of my head were generals like Washington, Jackson, Harrison, Grant, and Eisenhower.

[connectthedots]

Six months may seem like a brief period of time to someone who's (cough!) in college, but once you're in your thirties and forties, women and men both tend to come right to the point a lot quicker. Time's a wasting, particularly for women who want to have children. And at that age, experience and wisdom should tell someone long before six months have passed whether or not they're wasting each other's time.

Or toying with someone else's feelings. A mature and virtuous man would not do that.

I disagree with most of what you have posted on this thread, but agree completely with this one.

As a divorced man of 50 who never cheated on his spouse and who will not have sex until I remarry (believe me, it is not because I don't have strong sexual urges), a man and woman need to discuss the potential for a future marriage before six months. If the two have not discussed all aspects of their relationship in great depth by that time, they are not truly being honest with each other or themselves. I think a person can know if there is potential for marriage within a couple of months - I did