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Time to face facts: Gays gain victory
townhall ^ | June 20, 2003 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 06/19/2003 9:18:40 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

Time to face facts: Gays gain victory

The gays have won. The problem is no one will admit it.

The biggest and latest news is that Canada is poised to legalize same-sex marriage. But the signs of the gay victory have been all around for us for years.

The sitcom "Will and Grace" features openly gay characters who joke about their sex lives in ways that little more than a decade ago would have sparked complaints if uttered by heterosexuals, let alone homosexuals. Showtime's "Queer as Folk" depicts random gay sex in precisely the same trivial terms that HBO's "Sex in the City" depicts random heterosexual sex, which is to say with an air of unbridled celebration.

For the popular culture this signals the final stage of mainstreaming homosexuality. After repeated protests from gay groups in the late 1980s and early 1990s, Hollywood stopped casting gays and lesbians as villains (think of "No Way Out" and "Basic Instinct"). By the end of the '90s, gays could be found all over movies and TV, but they were depicted as virtuous celibates. In movies like "Sling Blade," "My Best Friend's Wedding" and that execrable drek by Madonna "The Next Best Thing," gays were cast as the only decent and honorable white men around.

My favorite example was the gay character from the Fox nighttime soap, "Melrose Place," which ran for most of the 1990s. Every straight character in the show was having sex at the drop of a hat. Except, for the gay guy, Matt Fielding, played by Doug Savant.

Almost every episode featured the gay pretty boy lecturing his straight friends about their reckless promiscuity or bailing them out from their dysfunctional relationships while he remained as chaste as Greg Brady on "The Brady Bunch."

But the gay victory doesn't just manifest itself in the popular culture. The mainstream media has collectively decided to mainstream gays. The New York Times runs gay "marriage" announcements alongside straight ones in its wedding notices section (aka "the chick sports pages").

On Father's Day, CNN "Sunday Night" ran a long interview with the Asian-American gay actor B.D. Wong about his book Following Foo, which chronicles his efforts as a gay parent. Never raising a hint of controversy, let alone objection, to the issue of gay adoption, the interviewer closed the discussion by noting how much better off the world would be if all fathers were like Wong.

That may or may not be true, but such a comment would be unimaginable in a world where gays were on the defensive.

Indeed, at the same time as all of this, it is all but impossible to say a negative word about gays in public settings (unless you're gay yourself). For example, in March, when Senator Rick Santorum echoed almost verbatim the language of a Supreme Court decision in an interview with an AP reporter, he was widely denounced as a "bigot" and "homophobe."

Earlier this month, Attorney General John Ashcroft reportedly tried to cancel a scheduled Gay Pride Month celebration at the Department of Justice for lesbian and gay employees. He failed. Despite pressure from social conservative activists, DOJ reversed course in the face of protests from gay groups and a sympathetic media (and, probably, pressure from the White House).

When the most famous and powerful member of the Religious Right in the U.S. government can't stop a gay pride event in his own office building, held by his own employees, you know that social conservatives are losing this fight.

And now Canada is moving rapidly to legalize gay marriage from coast to coast above the 49th parallel. Gay activists, liberal legal scholars and sympathetic journalists (i.e. 95 percent of the media) say this will have huge repercussions in the United States for, among other reasons, American gays will marry in Canada and come home with an extra argument for why the U.S. government should honor their marriages.

There may be some wishful thinking in this analysis, but when so many elites offer wishful thinking it often translates into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

It's certainly true that Great Britain is not that far behind Canada on the issue of gay marriage, and the developments in Canada only promise to expedite that process.

In short, it's a global trend and, like it or not, the traditionalists have lost. This isn't a value judgment, it's simply dispassionate analysis. Many conservatives refuse to accept this fact. But refusing to acknowledge a fact doesn't make it any less real.

The challenge for social conservatives, it seems to me, is to make the best of what they consider a bad situation. But that would require making some painful capitulations -intellectual, moral, philosophical and financial. It would also require gay activists to understand that they've won and that the best course of action for them would be magnanimity in victory. Unfortunately, this is all unlikely since both camps are in denial about how far gays have come.


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To: lentulusgracchus
You have bravely uttered the once-unspeakable suggestion that we should no longer give our support to Mr. Bush. I have to agree, the man is not seriously a conservative. When he was elected I was glad to think we had a good Christian for our President at last, but these days I'm not so sure. He has no business sucking up to the liberals, rather than doing the Lord's work in social policy. I see America drifting to the Left.

On the other hand, who can we put in his place? I mean, in time to stop the rot?
141 posted on 06/29/2003 7:57:09 AM PDT by reborn22
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To: reborn22; Polycarp
You might get a good laugh out of this as well. See my Post #135.
142 posted on 06/29/2003 9:46:55 AM PDT by Bryan
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To: lentulusgracchus; billbears
re: 131 "I love it when a plan comes together."

In your closing comments - society is being fed the liberal agenda thru the media. Mainstream values are being derived from left-wing outlets (schools, books, lesson plans, tv, radio, etc.) and away from the church and the family. I hope Ohioan is correct that we will swing back to a more conservative orientation.

143 posted on 06/29/2003 7:54:38 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: B-Chan
I will never change my belief on that point

There needs to be more of us who stand up for their beliefs as yourself. Stand strong

144 posted on 06/29/2003 7:56:18 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: gcruse
"What the hell do I care?"

Are you saying you will be stirring in hatred, or that the those of us who believe in morals stew in hatred? I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

145 posted on 06/29/2003 8:02:01 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: beckett
I don't think of it as a disorder, but rather a behavior. Does that make hateful as someone above suggested?
I trust you won't waste your time trying to convince me of the so called science of homosexuality, as it will do no good. I leave them alone, and want them to do the same for me.
146 posted on 06/29/2003 8:05:03 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: ladyinred
Hatred? No, I'm not a hatriot. I don't care what consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom, nor should I. To bring the power of the state into the equation is....unconstitutional I am happy to say.
147 posted on 06/29/2003 8:12:17 PM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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