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Canadian Firm Prints Harry Potter on Green Pages (Laugh-till-you-die Alert)
Environment News Service (ENS) ^ | June 20, 2003 | Some Green Moron

Posted on 06/21/2003 8:34:57 PM PDT by nwrep

Canadian Firm Prints Harry Potter on Green Pages

VANCOUVER, British Columbia, June 19, 2003 (ENS) - Fans of the Harry Potter (news - web sites) books probably do not associate the little wizard with rainforests or recycling, but that will change for at least 935,000 readers of "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix." The Canadian edition of the eagerly anticipated book--all 935,000 copies--has been printed by Canadian publisher Raincoast Books on 100 percent recycled, endangered forest free paper, a move that many believe represents a landmark event for environmentally friendly publishing.

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"By printing the latest Harry Potter book on 100 percent recycled paper, Raincoast has set the stage for a complete transformation of the publishing industry," said Lafcadio Cortesi, director of the Boreal Campaign at ForestEthics. "Readers everywhere appreciate that the magic is not just what is written on the pages, it is the very pages themselves."

And the author of the largest selling fiction book in history has penned her own heartfelt endorsement of Raincoast's decision to publish Potter's latest adventure on ancient forest friendly paper.

"The forest at Hogwarts is home to magical creatures like unicorns and centaurs," Rowling writes in an endorsement that appears prominently in the Canadian edition.

"Because the Canadian editions are printed on Ancient-Forest Friendly paper, the Harry Potter books are helping to save magnificent forests in the muggle world, forests that are home of magical animals such as Orangutans, Wolves and Bears," Rowling wrote. "It is a good idea to respect ancient trees, especially if they have a temper like the Whomping Willow."

According to research done by Markets Initiative--a coalition project of three environmental organizations, Friends of Clayoquot Sound, Greenpeace Canada and the British Columbia Chapter of Sierra Club (news - web sites) of Canada--the 935,000 books printed by Raincoast Books will save almost 30,000 trees in forests such as the Boreal forest of Canada, as well as in Canada's rainforests and throughout the Rockies region.

In addition, it will conserve 20,248 BTUs of electricity--195 years of electricity to power the average American home--and 2,679,548 pounds of greenhouse gases, which equals 2.4 million miles traveled by car with average fuel efficiency.

The paper used in the books printed by Raincoast was produced by San Francisco-based New Leaf Paper.

The greening of Potter is part of a broader effort by publishers and writers in Canada and the U.S., led by Markets Initiative, to increase the use of environmentally friendly papers in their books.

Thus far, 35 Canadian and 20 U.S. publishers have made formal commitments to use recycled and other environmentally preferable papers, and millions of forest-friendly books have been printed on such paper in Canada during the past 18 months.

"We look forward to seeing publishers in other countries follow the lead of their Canadian colleagues in helping to safeguard biodiversity and the world's remaining ancient forests," said Markets Initiative's Campaigns Director Nicole Rycroft.

In addition, Green Press Initiative is pressuring U.S. publishers, including the U.S. publisher of the Potter books, Scholastic, to secure endangered-forest free commitments.

According to Green Press, if Scholastic made an endangered-forest free commitment and switched to 100 percent recycled paper for the next Potter book, and printed the same quantity, it would conserve an area of trees some 13 times the size of New York's Central Park and some 24 million pounds of greenhouse gases--equal to the amount of greenhouse gas emitted by a car with average fuel efficiency traveling 21.81 million miles.

According to American Forest and Paper Association figures, less than five percent of the paper used by the printing and writing paper sector contains recycled fibers--in the year 2000 the association says one million tons of paper were used by U.S. book publishers.

The groups promoting the eco-friendly Potter print suggest that fans who live outside of Canada go online to purchase the Canadian edition.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Canada; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; enviralists; green; harrypotter; kyotolist; recycle; sanfrancisco; stupidity; unions
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1 posted on 06/21/2003 8:34:57 PM PDT by nwrep
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2 posted on 06/21/2003 8:42:07 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: *Green; *Kyoto_list; *San FRancisco
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3 posted on 06/21/2003 8:43:37 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep
...20,248 BTUs of electricity--195 years of electricity to power the average American home...

Ah....NO! Not even CLOSE, LOL! That amount of BTU would get used up in a couple of hours easily at my house!

prisoner6

4 posted on 06/21/2003 8:45:42 PM PDT by prisoner6 ( Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
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To: nwrep
I'm from the South where loblolly pines are what the paper companies use for book pages. Is there some other tree the Cannucks use? What is this wierdism about old forests? ... Isn't 'old timber' used in construction lumber?
5 posted on 06/21/2003 8:48:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: nwrep
Sounds like a good idea. Nothing wrong with recycling stuff that is either leftover from production. The best thing to recycle is trashed paper.
6 posted on 06/21/2003 8:51:41 PM PDT by cyborg (I'm a mutt-american)
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To: nwrep
The Canadian edition of the eagerly anticipated book--all 935,000 copies--has been printed by Canadian publisher Raincoast Books on 100 percent recycled, endangered forest free paper, a move that many believe represents a landmark event for environmentally friendly publishing.

Ahh, but they didn't say it was dolphin safe! How many innocent dolphins were slaughtered to print these books? Considering how quiet they are about it, the number must be in the thousands.

Save the dolphins! Boycott Harry Potter!

By the way, I like the picture you added. It definitely has the right ambience for the article. :^)

And it also is reminiscent of the theme for the next movie, titled Harry Potter and the Crucible of Stoning, which portrays our plucky protagonists as they muddle through their teen years...

"Hey Hermione, don't bogart that crucible, man!"

7 posted on 06/21/2003 8:55:31 PM PDT by Imal (One finds the truth by seeking it, not by proclaiming it.)
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To: MHGinTN
You need to spend some time in an old growth forest on the west coast to appreciate what it's about
8 posted on 06/21/2003 9:00:00 PM PDT by freedom9
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To: freedom9
Would those be Douglas Firs? I can't see using any Sequoias for paper production.
9 posted on 06/21/2003 9:03:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
Firs, cedars, hemlock, oaks
10 posted on 06/21/2003 9:05:37 PM PDT by freedom9
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To: MHGinTN
Like Canada doesn't have enough dead trees! They rather have them burned by forest fires than process it and replenish. Socialist crap is creeping into Canuck land. Oh Canada, quo vadis?
11 posted on 06/21/2003 9:08:38 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian
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To: freedom9
Cedars and oaks wouldn't be used for paper, but I can see why it is alarming if timbering in old growth forests taking younger trees would harm the old oaks and old cedars. I am a believer in old oaks ... one over the hill from my house is at leaszt 150 years old. There are Beech Trees on my Mother's property that are likely near 200 years old.
12 posted on 06/21/2003 9:14:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
I like the outdoors and I especially enjoyed fishing and camping on the west coast in old growth.
I've also chained down a fair amount of big trees.

Selective logging beats the hell out of clear cut

But there's something about an unspoiled wilderness. Need to keep some.
13 posted on 06/21/2003 9:35:38 PM PDT by freedom9
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To: freedom9
We have a few spots of old growth here in the Appalachians. I've spent many hours over a lifetime among those trees. Maybe it's just me, but I get an odd feeling of timelessness when I'm among those ancient living things ... some are as old as the Republic. I cannot imagine what it must ahve been like to still have the ancient gigantic Chesnuts that our ancestors witnessed. There were boards in my Grandfather's old home place (circa 1830's) two feet wide with a bead on both edges, out of old chesnut, just pegged up as paneling!
14 posted on 06/21/2003 9:43:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: nwrep
I think these "people" are uninformed....wood chips, the by product, AFTER a tree has been used for OTHER (lumber for homes, etc.) purposes....are what make paper, according to my Paper Industry (pulp & paper) husband. Paper is the WASTE product of a tree that cannot be used for other larger purposes. In other words their argument is faulty.
15 posted on 06/21/2003 9:43:51 PM PDT by goodnesswins (FR - the truth, and nothing but the truth.........getting to the bottom of journalistic bias.)
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To: nwrep
The NYT sure does not use any high content of recycled paper.

They also use really cheap ink that gets all over hands and white sheets or other places.

Or so I am told by a lady editor of newpapers in NY, CT, DC, NY, PA, AK, NY.....

What gypsies the media types are.
16 posted on 06/21/2003 9:56:18 PM PDT by autoresponder (. . . . SOME CAN*T HANDLE THE TRUTH . . . THE NYT ESPECIALLY!)
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To: freedom9
America has more trees and deer now then it did when my ancestors arrived one cold November day met by other ancestors here first for over 10000 years.

More Buffalo then in 1900.

They used to use rag content in paper whereas now it is mostly wood pulp paper.

America has an immense % of National and State parks, as well as City parks compared to other nations.

Vanderbuilt brought a German forestor over to start the Pisgal National forests in w-NC and TN.

Cradle of forestry is in Pisgah, between Horseshoe and Brevard NC.

Visit Asheville NC and see Biltmore House, Estate, Dairy and Wineries.

I fought with my building construction engineer builder brother and my bank to cut as few trees as possible on my five acres.

Only cut one BIG oak; had dogwood trees arched over on the my upper drive.

(used flexible green electrical wire to carefully interlace the dogwood trees together above my rock drive)

All natural growth except for the small bit of grass I had to plant to satisfy the bank and cover the septic tank, room for a clothesline, some room for a doghouse, and to throw a football.

Everyone else went to the forests to see the beauty.

I lived in it.

When I wanted to see grass I drove by the golf courses!
17 posted on 06/21/2003 10:11:44 PM PDT by autoresponder (. . . . SOME CAN*T HANDLE THE TRUTH . . . THE NYT ESPECIALLY!)
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To: MHGinTN
Over the years, I've visited a number of paper companies. From what I remember, they raise pine trees expressly for the purpose of paper production. The wood is pulped and used to produce paper, while the pine bark is used for landscaping mulch or other applications. The paper technologists explained that when trees are harvested for paper production, they are promptly replaced with new seedlings. It's a crop, much like corn or oats, but with longer cycle time. They also pointed out that the rapidly growing young trees produce proportionately more oxygen than old, slow growing trees.

I don't disagree with the value of recycling or re-using where it is economical. I also love old forests and don't want them clear cut. However, I don't lose sleep over the use of young pines for paper production. It's just another crop.

18 posted on 06/21/2003 10:14:06 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: MHGinTN
Yup.

Seirra Club, ELF, ALF, Ruckus, NRDC, EArth First.

Offices and homes.

All built containing lotsa wood!

Plastics and sythetic clothing made from wood by-products, oil, coal...

All the enviro-Nutzis wear sythetic fabrics and shoes made from trees, petroleum, coal...

Never ever hear that, do you!
19 posted on 06/21/2003 10:16:29 PM PDT by autoresponder (. . . . SOME CAN*T HANDLE THE TRUTH . . . THE NYT ESPECIALLY!)
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To: nwrep
I just finished Order of the Phoenix. There are many themes in it that should resonate here. Although there is some good vs. evil there is also a lot of good (Harry's side) vs. libs, RINOs and their media allies. Oh, our libs will try to place the race card and compare the anti-Mudblood forces to their false stereotype of Trent Lott. But if you review the words and actions of the forces arrayed against Harry in the middle of the book they are strikingly similar to what the left has been doing here. Umbridge would make an excellent Democratic presidential candidate. She's against the war on terror or even the need for it. She wants more state control of and through education. She's against letting people defend themselves. She wants to ban any media that disagrees with her spin. She talks to people as if they were small children and tells them she's doing this for their own good. She even has Hillary's temper.
20 posted on 06/21/2003 10:16:42 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: nwrep
I saw that picture and expected an article about hemp paper with the required catfight between the pro- and anti-WoSD crowds. Recycling stories are so 20th century.
21 posted on 06/21/2003 10:24:13 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Paranoia is when you realize that tin foil hats just focus the mind control beams.)
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To: autoresponder
They also use really cheap ink that gets all over hands and white sheets...

Insert Senator Byrd joke here.

22 posted on 06/21/2003 10:25:20 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Paranoia is when you realize that tin foil hats just focus the mind control beams.)
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To: autoresponder
Sounds great.
23 posted on 06/21/2003 10:29:48 PM PDT by freedom9
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To: KarlInOhio
Right.

Senator who lit up the world!

People keep wondering why he was so pro-Islamic, against the Iraq War; check out the married surname of one of his kids.

Never saw that mentioned on TV, talk radio, newsprint; found it by accident on one of Byrd's websites.

All in the family.
24 posted on 06/21/2003 10:32:19 PM PDT by autoresponder (. . . . SOME CAN*T HANDLE THE TRUTH . . . THE NYT ESPECIALLY!)
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To: autoresponder
Incidentally, the Forestry Service will GIVE YOU free young tree seedlins to plant, sometimes depending on the acreage you tell them you own.

Don't wait for arbor day.

Make cuttings from trimmed trees.

Moss-Off tree branches to get a bigger started young tree to plant; simply cut two rings in the tree or plant bark about 2" apart, peel off the bark in between the rings. Dust some plant hormone on the raw area if you have it. Wrap with big clump wet spagnum moss. Wrap the moss with Saran Wrap, use twist ties at each end to seal.

Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

Shortly Y'all will have five nice small started trees to plant; I plant them somewhat under the new healthy root system.

Cherry trees in a park are great resource for cuttings and mossing-off trees.

Never see the Enviro-Nutzies tell this simple stuff on TV or their websites.

Hard to do?

Learned as a 6 year old; my parents ran a landscaping business as well as real estate.

I must have harvested thousands of coconuts to plant and Royal Poinsiana seed to plant on my own.

My mother stuck a "PLANTS & TRRES FOR SALE" sign out front.

Bought a lot of groceries.

South Florida is filled with trees I planted as a kid.

It ain't rocket science.

Embarrass the Enviro-Nutzies.

Plant stuff while they sit up in a tree.

It's all about the money for them.



25 posted on 06/21/2003 10:48:50 PM PDT by autoresponder (. . . . SOME CAN*T HANDLE THE TRUTH . . . THE NYT ESPECIALLY!)
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To: goodnesswins
Not exactly. Some trees are cut for pulp specifically.
26 posted on 06/21/2003 10:50:18 PM PDT by kms61
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To: nwrep
This is from The Onion, right?
27 posted on 06/21/2003 10:52:38 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: cyborg; Bella_Bru; KneelBeforeZod
I agree with you. I'm all for recycled paper. Nothing wrong with it.
28 posted on 06/21/2003 10:57:36 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
But...but aren't we conservatives supposed to endorse wasteful methods whenever and wherever possible? I thought that we wanted to trash the earth on principle, because Jesus is coming back or something. That's what the liberals say, and they wouldn't lie just to make us look bad, would they?
29 posted on 06/21/2003 11:09:45 PM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: Dimensio; cyborg
There are Green Conservatives. Have you heard of them?

http://www.repamerica.org/
30 posted on 06/21/2003 11:47:22 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband (Yes I know you were being facetious)
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To: nwrep
Is it just me ... or is the whole world running headlong over the cliff ...??? LOL
31 posted on 06/22/2003 12:48:25 AM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: nwrep
Trees get old, die and fall to the ground. Old trees are home to disease and prevent new growth. Standing timber processes CO2 while decaying wood passes other gas. Trees themselves seem to pass some polutants as seen in the Smokey Mountains. Proper logging is a healthy conservancy practice since trees are a renewable resource.
32 posted on 06/22/2003 2:48:32 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: nwrep
But I don't want my Harry Potter books to be green.
33 posted on 06/22/2003 5:22:25 AM PDT by LionsDaughter (Eat a live toad in the morning and nothing worse will happen to you for the rest of the day.)
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To: nwrep
Well, it's appropriate.
For some books it makes sense to print them on paper that will disintegrate and take the trip to oblivion sooner rather than later.

Why wasn't Living Lies... er History printed on green paper?

34 posted on 06/22/2003 5:45:55 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: freedom9
I have been in old growth forest on the west coast of the US & Canada & they are magical places. I hope some are saved, but they are sterile. Animals do not live there because there is nothing for them to eat. New trees do not sprout there because the sun does not reach the ground. There is no grass & small bushes because of lack of sun. There is only moss growing on the ground & on rocks. When an old tree dies, a little sun gets in & new seedlings will sprout along the rotting trunk, its called a nurse tree. We don't need too many old growth forest.
35 posted on 06/22/2003 5:51:48 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: nwrep
will save almost 30,000 trees in forests such as the Boreal forest of Canada, as well as in Canada's rainforests and throughout the Rockies region.
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In addition, it will conserve 20,248 BTUs of electricity--195 years of electricity to power the average American home--and 2,679,548 pounds of greenhouse gases, which equals 2.4 million miles traveled by car with average fuel efficiency.

Why do I have the nagging feeling that these numbers were pulled out of some green butt?
I suspect the numbers are either manufactured outright, or neglects the human and other energy that was necessary to gather, sort, transport reprocess and redistribute this green wonder stuff.

I am looking forward to hearing from people who actually know and track these costs to provide the real picture.

36 posted on 06/22/2003 5:53:46 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: nwrep
And the band played on....
37 posted on 06/22/2003 6:07:17 AM PDT by Vote 4 Nixon
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To: Think free or die
I don't disagree with the value of recycling or re-using where it is economical. I also love old forests and don't want them clear cut. However, I don't lose sleep over the use of young pines for paper production. It's just another crop.

Quit injecting reason into the discussion, dammit.
And raising trees and harvesting them for a specific purpose is so... 20th century.

Let's stay on subject: clear cutting is horrible, old growth forests are disappearing forever, we can see spotted owls only in museums now and Americans are too innovative and inventive and fat and comfortable.

Remember all of society needs to feel that they contribute something, and for the intellectually challenged and for those whose flights of imagination is limited to potions and magic, feeling valuable is very important.
Even if that value is limited to preventing human creativity, industry and the improvement of the human condition, and creative ways to co-exist with nature that still involves doing something, as opposed to preventing someone else from doing anything.

Destroying and obstructing is a lot easier than creating, and a lot more visible.

38 posted on 06/22/2003 6:14:00 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: Think free or die
I used to work at a sawmill. Each winter, for about two months, we'd shut down. A handful of employees were retained to set out pines on land owned by my employer. We could easily plant 20,000 trees per day - two tractors, four folks. In 10-15 years, these pines were thinned and the harvest was sold as pulpwood. In another 10-15 years, the remainer could be clear cut, run through the sawmill, and then the process started over.

I agree, it is just another crop.
39 posted on 06/22/2003 6:21:42 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: nwrep

Screw the "Whomping willow"

Tell him I killed his cousin and carved him into a pencil holder... and he's next.

40 posted on 06/22/2003 6:22:32 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Paper machines are wonderful places to grow microbial lifeforms.(Warm and wet.) If recycled pulp is used, it requires the use of some of the most poisonous substances known to man, in large quantities, to keep microbial comtamination managable. Papermaking with recycle pulp is much more chemically intense than with virgin pulp. De-inking also requires chemicals, end result, all that isothiazolin, glutaraldehyde, and quaternary amine winds up in the environment. I know, I sell millions of dollars of biocides a year. I love when a mill decides to use recycle pulp.
41 posted on 06/22/2003 6:48:42 AM PDT by Comus
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To: Comus
Firs this - Paper machines are wonderful places to grow microbial lifeforms.(Warm and wet.) If recycled pulp is used, it requires the use of some of the most poisonous substances known to man, in large quantities, to keep microbial comtamination managable. Papermaking with recycle pulp is much more chemically intense than with virgin pulp. De-inking also requires chemicals, end result, all that isothiazolin, glutaraldehyde, and quaternary amine winds up in the environment. I know, I sell millions of dollars of biocides a year. I love when a mill decides to use recycle pulp.

And second - trees are the best example of harvesting for use. I don't espouse using "ancient" wood, like redwoods, I assume, but growing trees, harvesting them and using them for paper is the best example of renewable resources America has. Paper companies manage the forests the best of any company utilizing any of our natural resources.

Printing on recycled paper, as "Comus" has commented is incredibly chemical intensive. The paper companies have it right - harvest and planting new trees are a finely tuned balance they have perfected. People get all crazy about "recycling" without finding out about the chemical cost. We all need to educate ourselves on what is energy- and CHEMICAL-conservation.

Using plastic grocery bags, and recycling them, means that they are used in shoes, packaging and other reusable products. Using paper and recyling it means toxic chemicals used in the process, to get rid of microbes in the paper products.

Choose carefully at the grocery store on your next visit. And, oh yeah, at the bookstore!

42 posted on 06/22/2003 7:07:46 AM PDT by TruthNtegrity (God bless America, God bless President George W. Bush and God bless our Military!)
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To: nwrep
What's that fuzzy thing on the head of the girl on the far left? A fur derby? Or is that her hair?? What's recycling got to do with freeing pot?
43 posted on 06/22/2003 7:59:08 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: nwrep
Recycling is a great thing. There's nothing wrong with it, though the term 'tree free' is an outright lie. Recycled paper was still originally made from trees.

Raincoast is NOT the first compant on print books on recycled paper. O'Reilly, a publisher of programming textbooks, has been printing on recycled paper for years. Raincoast may be the first CANADIAN publisher to do so, but they have hardly transformed the publishing industry.

The article is ignorant, blatant propaganda, meant to remind the population of the need to protect the environment from the evil logging companies and help them to forget their economic woes and the growing disgust with the government.

44 posted on 06/22/2003 8:14:33 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: freedom9
"You need to spend some time in an old growth forest on the west coast to appreciate what it's about"

Paper companies don't cut old growth forest. They utilize tree farms (frequently the targets of ELF arsonists, BTW) for that. Fast-growing pulp wood trees. It's cheaper, they own the ground where their trees are planted, and the trees are replaced as soon as they're cut, so that the next crop can be guaranteed.

45 posted on 06/22/2003 8:21:09 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: autoresponder
"Plant stuff while they sit up in a tree"

Heheheh. Great idea.

Most of the loggers I know love the woods and love the trees. Some people will be shocked to know that loggers know a tad about growing trees, as well as cutting them down.

Take oaks. Acorns are very hard to sprout. Hubby's crew went to their respective homes one evening bearing handsful of acorns. To sprout in our houses and plant in a year. Yes, about half of them did sprout, and yes, all of us did plant them. Uh...ok, so one is them is in our back yard...we like oaks, but have mostly cherry and spruce on our property. It's about 7 feet tall this year and has slowed down. Another thing about oaks is their slow growth...people want fast results, and so few people tend to plant them.

We will not live to see that tree reach maturity. But our grandkids will.

These guys do things like this all the time. Trees are a renewable resource. The more we plant, the more we have.

46 posted on 06/22/2003 8:32:28 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: kms61
NOT OLD trees!
47 posted on 06/22/2003 8:41:08 AM PDT by goodnesswins (FR - the truth, and nothing but the truth.........getting to the bottom of journalistic bias.)
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To: nwrep
"935,000 books...30,000 trees"

A little back of the envelope and we get 31 books per tree. I've seen a lot of trees; and I'm prepared to say that trees that unproductive of paper are not 'Ancient Forest Monarchs'.

I think we're talking weed species and pecker-poles....or else total disinformation.

These watermelon phonies are lifetime kindergartners; they think in feelings.

48 posted on 06/22/2003 8:56:00 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: goodnesswins
I've been to a paper mill in Texarkana. They bring whole logs of freshly cut loblolly pine and use every atom of it. Anything of the pine not used for paper (typically the bark) is used as fuel for the plant.
49 posted on 06/22/2003 9:43:08 AM PDT by BradyLS
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
thanks... I think one can be conservative and be interested in maximizing resources. That does not mean becoming a monkey wrenching nut.
50 posted on 06/22/2003 10:37:41 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm a mutt-american)
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