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Buy Your Own Drugs, Grandma
Human Events ^ | 6-23 | Staff Editorial

Posted on 06/22/2003 11:46:04 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier

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1 posted on 06/22/2003 11:46:05 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier
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To: The Old Hoosier
Why am I taking food off my table to buy drugs for old folks who winter in my state in $250,000 RVs??? It's not even means tested. Just a pure socialist piggish pork handout. What a ripoff.

OUTRAGEOUS

2 posted on 06/22/2003 11:51:31 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: The Old Hoosier
Gee, I'm so glad the republicans are in charge now. Bastards.
3 posted on 06/22/2003 11:52:22 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: The Old Hoosier
"Fiscal Armageddon"

Enough said!
4 posted on 06/22/2003 11:58:52 AM PDT by RockDoc
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To: AAABEST
Hey you can't say anything bad about republicans because were at war...well, we were at war...and we will be again soon with who ever calls Bush a Fag...(I hope you sense my sarcasm)
5 posted on 06/22/2003 12:01:11 PM PDT by MilitaryBuff
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To: AAABEST
If Bush signs a prescription drug plan I won't be voting for him. He is just like his father, except he can't blame his mistakes on the democrats.
6 posted on 06/22/2003 12:01:32 PM PDT by Deport Billary
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To: Deport Billary
I'm afraid he's unbeatable, and he knows it. I just hope there's a Part II somewhere in the second term, when they start cutting spending.
7 posted on 06/22/2003 12:03:33 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
SS and MC can be funded differently.

The whole income/payroll tax scheme doesn't work, obviously.

There is a more stable, broader base that is better for funding MC/SS.

A national retail sales tax would collect from everyone, not just wage earners. It would collect from illegals, every time they spend. It would collect from drug dealers, every time they spend. And, most importantly, IMO, is that all imports would pay the tax too.

For a quick rundown of a national retail sales tax, already in Congress with 32 cosponsors, look here.

Add that the IRS would go away, and it's kewl!

8 posted on 06/22/2003 12:04:54 PM PDT by Principled
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To: The Old Hoosier
Why is it that when the DemonRats are in power the RINOs act lick conservatives, and fight to stop this idiocy. Now they try to outsocialize the Dems. Is appears that no matter which of these two gutless parties is in control they are both just trying to stay in power by offering the national treasury to the idiot electorate.
9 posted on 06/22/2003 12:05:43 PM PDT by RockDoc
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To: AAABEST
You are the quintessential politically ignorant right wing citizen.

Didn't you pay attention in the US History Class when they taught you that The United States has a Government of the people, by the people and for the people"?

Even less than really astute people should be able to figure out that when a majority of Americans want something, their public servants will enact it. Did it ever dawn on you why they are called Public Servants and not Public Rulers? I didn't think so.

Let me give you a clue about how our system works. When a majority of the American voters want something, politicians run for office promising to do it. Then when they get in office they do it. When a significant minority of voters want something politicians promise to do it... But when they get elected they don't do it.

What you want to happen will never happen because you are looking for a politician that will promise to do what you want. If a majority does not want it done, then they will promise you and break that promise.

Here is how you get things done.

First you convince a substantial majority of American voters to your views... That is it. Then just sit back and watch it happen.

What part of "Government of the people, by the people, and for the people" confuses you most?


10 posted on 06/22/2003 12:07:44 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: The Old Hoosier
Editorials *aren't* "breaking news"...
11 posted on 06/22/2003 12:08:49 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Common Tator
You seem to be the quintessential ignorant left-winger, who thinks our Constitution doesn't make any difference.
12 posted on 06/22/2003 12:09:59 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Deport Billary
Try the Constitution Party

http://www.constitutionparty.com/
13 posted on 06/22/2003 12:10:08 PM PDT by RockDoc
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To: The Old Hoosier
"unless the government is willing to tax middle-aged working people into poverty."
"America would become a socialist country—"

Let's get real, America already is a defacto socialist country, and how can anyone doubt that the government is willing to tax people into poverty, after all they have already taxed and regulated millions into poverty.
I hate being so negative but of what use is it to ignore the facts. The farsighted could see what lay ahead for this country when I was an infant and the future certainly is not looking any brighter today.
14 posted on 06/22/2003 12:14:14 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Mercy on a pore boy lemme have a dollar bill!)
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To: The Old Hoosier
Fiscal Armageddon

I hardly think so. One and all can have an anyerism over Dubya's spending plans when in effect his spending is one he!! of a government spending cut! He is performing fabulously in respect to making sure another liberal democrat does not get re-elected. We have got a tax cut and at the same time a military spending increase. Both of which are formitable conservative concerns. If Dubya' goes for broke and cuts across the board he is assured of being a 1 term President. My way of looking at it is his increase in spending on these programs are a cost factor in doing business to cut government spending. After all if he loses the election I can guarantee massive spending that will put to shame what Dubya' has on the table for spending and massive tax increases to pay for it, on top of it, which has been professed by ALL the Democratic runners as a platform for election.

I hardly think that ANYBODY feels that if Algore got elected that we would be better off today. These changes take time and if Dubya' changes things overnite, the shock to the population would prevent his re-election.

15 posted on 06/22/2003 12:14:22 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Common Tator
Even less than really astute people should be able to figure out that when a majority of Americans want something, their public servants will enact it.

Sir Alex Fraser Tytler (1742-1813). Scottish jurist and historian:

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury.

From that time on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the results that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship

16 posted on 06/22/2003 12:16:06 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: Common Tator
This is all the US Constitution authorizes congress to act on:

Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

Futhermore:

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

17 posted on 06/22/2003 12:16:29 PM PDT by RockDoc
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To: The Old Hoosier
Between this and the road map, I'm not a happy camper.

These days it seems to come down to the lesser of two evils- Dems who will go full-speed growing the government and stealing our money, or the Republicans who will do the same thing but not as quickly. I'm going to abandon the party just yet- I understand that in politics you never get everything you want- but this is getting rediculous. The Constitution party is looking better and better.

18 posted on 06/22/2003 12:17:34 PM PDT by Ferret Fawcet (Trust God's authority, not man's majority.)
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Comon Tator: You are the quintessential politically ignorant right wing citizen.

The Old Hoosier: You seem to be the quintessential ignorant left-winger, who thinks our Constitution doesn't make any difference.

Oooh, this oughtta be good. I'm going to get some popcorn...

19 posted on 06/22/2003 12:18:13 PM PDT by Imal (One finds the truth by seeking it, not by proclaiming it.)
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To: EGPWS
I hardly think that ANYBODY feels that if Algore got elected that we would be better off today.

I don't think so either. But that doesn't mean we should start creating huge, new entitlement programs that will dramatically increase spending and require new taxes down the line.

20 posted on 06/22/2003 12:19:13 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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