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Parade Treatment Irks Gay Groups (Gays whine about exclusion from Christian family parade)
The Hawaii Channel ^ | June 27, 2003

Posted on 06/29/2003 10:20:24 AM PDT by Mr. Mulliner

Parade Treatment Irks Gay Groups

Activists Preparing To Clash With Christian Coalition

POSTED: 8:28 p.m. HST June 27, 2003
UPDATED: 8:37 a.m. HST June 28, 2003

The American Civil Liberties Union of Hawaii is suing Honolulu city and county officials for excluding gay groups from a parade next week.

The ACLU filed suit Friday in U.S. District Court.

According to the complaint, the city and the Hawaii Christian Coalition promoted the July 5 "Family Day Parade" as co-sponsors.

But after gay groups repeatedly tried to join, the suit says the organizers claimed the event was privately sponsored only by the Christian Coalition.

Gay groups say over the years they have had to fight to put on their own gay pride parade and they can't understand why the city has pumped taxpayer money into promoting the Christian Coalition event.

"The city is jumping though hoops to help them with the parade," said gay rights advocate Ken Miller. "What kind of equality is that?"

City spokeswoman Carol Costa says the event is not organized by city and county officials and the rules are up to the Christian Coalition.

Hawaii Christian Coalition representative Garrett Hashimoto says as the main sponsor of the family parade, the Coalition can legally exclude who it wants.

"We don't want (a) political or personal organization's agenda in this parade," he said.

Hashimoto says it would be inappropriate for a group promoting a gay lifeystyle to march in what is essentially a children's parade.

A hearing in federal court is set for July 1 at 3 p.m.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: aclu; activistcourt; activistsupremecourt; antichristian; christianbashing; christiancoalition; downourthroats; familydayparade; gaypride; gayprideparade; hawaii; holdyourownparade; homosexualagenda; righttoassembly
It's a family parade for kids. It's not a chance to promote your lifestyle or recruit little tykes into your perversion.

Is that so hard to understand?

1 posted on 06/29/2003 10:20:25 AM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Please keep us updated on the outcome.
2 posted on 06/29/2003 10:26:13 AM PDT by upchuck (Contribute to "Republicans for Al Sharpton for President in 2004." Dial 1-800-SLAPTHADONKEY :)
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To: upchuck
Here's a little more from the Honolulu Advertiser.

Group is denied part in parade

The Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays group twice has been denied a spot in the city's Family Day "Kid's Parade," an event sponsored by the Hawaii Christian Coalition, said Michael Golojuch Jr., project coordinator of PFLAG.

Family Day is a daylong series of events being held July 5 in Waikiki.

Malcolm Tom, the city's deputy managing director, defended the decision by the parade sponsor.

"It's a simple issue: The parade is a private parade, sponsored by the Hawaii Christian Coalition," Tom said. "As sponsor, they have right to select and choose who they want to have in the parade."


3 posted on 06/29/2003 10:34:37 AM PDT by Mr. Mulliner (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government." --James Madison)
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To: Mr. Mulliner
It's not a chance to promote your lifestyle or recruit little tykes into your perversion.

Gays by definition do not reproduce. They only way to increase their numbers is to persuade otherwise normal young men and teenagers that the awkwardness that they feel around the opposite sex is because they really are homosexual deep down and they need to try out the homosexual lifestyle instead. Who hasn't felt isolated and rejected as a teeneager? It's a normal part of growing up. Gays exploit this teenage vulnerability to the hilt. Their agenda is the polar opposite of that of the Christian family parade.

4 posted on 06/29/2003 10:36:42 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
One more news item on this from a TV station in Honolulu.
June 27, 2003
ACLU Sues Over Gays' Exclusion From Honolulu Parade
(Honolulu-AP) -- The American Civil Liberties Union of Hawaii is suing Honolulu city and county officials for excluding gay groups from a parade next week. The A-C-L-U was filed suit today in U-S District Court. According to the complaint, the city and the Hawaii Christian Coalition promoted the July Fifth Family Day Parade as co-sponsors. But after gay groups repeatedly tried to join, the suit says the organizers claimed the event was privately sponsored only by the Christian Coalition. City and county officials said they had not yet seen the complaint. The suit comes just before Gay Pride weekend in Honolulu, marked with a series of events, including a parade tomorrow.

5 posted on 06/29/2003 10:50:50 AM PDT by Mr. Mulliner (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government." --James Madison)
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To: FreedomCalls
One more news item on this from a TV station in Honolulu.
June 27, 2003
ACLU Sues Over Gays' Exclusion From Honolulu Parade
(Honolulu-AP) -- The American Civil Liberties Union of Hawaii is suing Honolulu city and county officials for excluding gay groups from a parade next week. The A-C-L-U was filed suit today in U-S District Court. According to the complaint, the city and the Hawaii Christian Coalition promoted the July Fifth Family Day Parade as co-sponsors. But after gay groups repeatedly tried to join, the suit says the organizers claimed the event was privately sponsored only by the Christian Coalition. City and county officials said they had not yet seen the complaint. The suit comes just before Gay Pride weekend in Honolulu, marked with a series of events, including a parade tomorrow.

6 posted on 06/29/2003 10:50:58 AM PDT by Mr. Mulliner (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government." --James Madison)
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To: Mr. Mulliner
GO HASHIMOTO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7 posted on 06/29/2003 11:06:12 AM PDT by m18436572
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To: Mr. Mulliner

8 posted on 06/29/2003 11:09:20 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
From the Gay Pride Parade, New York City.

Just what our children need to see. Sure. Riiiiggght.

9 posted on 06/29/2003 11:18:19 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
Hey, you can't legislate morality. At least, that's what all the liberaltarians constantly whine.
10 posted on 06/29/2003 11:23:24 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Mr. Mulliner
How long will the good Lord put up with this mockery ?
The ACLU is truely Santan inspired !
11 posted on 06/29/2003 11:24:58 AM PDT by OREALLY
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Sad, but not surprising.
12 posted on 06/29/2003 11:27:47 AM PDT by Ferret Fawcet (Trust God's authority, not man's majority.)
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To: Mr. Mulliner
I wonder how a participant in one of the Gay Parades would be met if they marched on the premise of morality, the Biblical stance against homosexuality and the promotion of the family unit? I would bet the Fudgepackers and clambumpers would go ballistic and be very vocal against the participants.
13 posted on 06/29/2003 11:31:08 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Mr. Mulliner
If the gays want to have their own parade they should go and do it. Why do they want to push their lifestyle on others.

To them I say, have your life, enjoy it. I won't bother you. But leave me alone to enjoy mine and stop bothering me. I don't want you preaching to me.
15 posted on 06/29/2003 11:37:10 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Let's make a political deal. Gays can have unrestricted access to any and all parades, if they allow heterosexuals to have the exclusive right to marry.

Every weekend we can stage huge, extravagant, televised parades and exclude homosexuals - they'll cave within a month.

(Humor)
16 posted on 06/29/2003 11:37:39 AM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: OREALLY
Satan inspired, eh? How about this picture of some participants in the Gay Pride parade in Berlin.

Answer this question. Why would Gay men celebrating their lifesyle dress up as Satan?

17 posted on 06/29/2003 11:37:57 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Ah, they understand. What so many don't understand is they WANT your kids.
18 posted on 06/29/2003 11:42:01 AM PDT by I still care
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To: FreedomCalls
They also dress up as nuns.
19 posted on 06/29/2003 11:44:31 AM PDT by mlmr (The chickens always come home to roost........unless they are eaten by the racoons.)
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To: FreedomCalls
Creepy...but sadly not surprising...
20 posted on 06/29/2003 11:46:49 AM PDT by OREALLY
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To: FreedomCalls
Satan? I thought he was supposed to be Darth Maul.
21 posted on 06/29/2003 11:47:09 AM PDT by RichInOC ("What is thy bidding, my master?")
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To: Mr. Mulliner
The so-called "separation of church and state" doctrine means a government entity can't promote a Christian lifestyle, but a government agency (the US Fish & Wildlife Service in this case) has no problems hosting a web site promoting the Gay and Lesbian lifestyle. Notice how the poster depicts young children at play.


22 posted on 06/29/2003 11:49:20 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
Gays by definition do not reproduce.


They do reproduce and adopt. There was a book in the seventies or early eighties called "Shock-proof Sidney Skate" that detailed some of the problems of having homosexual and lesbian parents.
23 posted on 06/29/2003 11:49:31 AM PDT by mlmr (The chickens always come home to roost........unless they are eaten by the racoons.)
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To: RichInOC
Satan? I thought he was supposed to be Darth Maul.

He clearly has large devil horns, not the little horns of Darth Maul.

Here is Darth Maul for comparision:


24 posted on 06/29/2003 11:56:25 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Mr. Mulliner
I think you're missing the real problem here. The problem is that politicians devote public (taxpayer) funds to various groups to pander their votes. Once you start with that there is no end as every group will demand its part or its event.

You want a parade? Good for you. You organize it and you show that you have funded all aspects including the policing and the cleanup. Then you get a permit. Otherwise you can have your parade on private property.
25 posted on 06/29/2003 12:02:48 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Mr. Mulliner
From another thread (on homosexual parents with young kids at Gay Pride parades):

Gay Pride Events Becoming Family Affairs

They asked for a kid-friendly spot in the lineup, hoping to avoid a repeat of last year - when their stroller brigade was awkwardly sandwiched between two groups of leather-bound sadomasochists.

"I don't want my kids to see that, and I don't think either side was too pleased," said Boulliane, 35.

Now they know how we feel (whether it be at Disneyworld, on tv, or city streets).

Funny how all of this behavior is a private act that occurs in a bedroom. Then why flaunt it out in the streets? Doesn't seem very private to me.

26 posted on 06/29/2003 12:08:09 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Mr. Mulliner
They just don't get that there are still decent people who don't want their children exposed to a bunch of half-naked faggots parading around flaunting their deviance. Personally, I think allowing the faggot parades in a public place in broad daylight is way over the line. Next thing you know, they'll want to make it mandatory and public schools will be sponsoring "field trops" to faggot days parades.
27 posted on 06/29/2003 12:09:21 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: FreedomCalls
"Why would Gay men celebrating their lifesyle dress up as Satan?"

He's the puppetmaster...but then, of course, you already knew that.

28 posted on 06/29/2003 12:13:00 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Mr. Mulliner
If it is true that homosexuality is congenital, then there will be plenty of them marching that day, they just haven't figured it out yet or announced.
29 posted on 06/29/2003 12:20:14 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Mr. Mulliner
"It's a simple issue: The parade is a private parade, sponsored by the Hawaii Christian Coalition," Tom said. "As sponsor, they have right to select and choose who they want to have in the parade."

As it should be, as it should be, as it should be!!

I'm sick of the gays demanding to be in our faces all the time. Spare us!

30 posted on 06/29/2003 12:22:40 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Sodomy is not a family value. Bump!
31 posted on 06/29/2003 12:23:39 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: sweetliberty
The one "good" thing to say about all this is that since "Gay Pride Month" is in June, few school students will be subjected to devoted classwork for "Gay Pride Month".

Of course, the celebrations kick off with Gay Day at a number of youth oriented theme parks in June (right when the kids get out of school and some families go on vacation).

32 posted on 06/29/2003 12:43:22 PM PDT by weegee
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To: FreedomCalls
Should Satanic followers be permitted to march in a Christian organized parade?
33 posted on 06/29/2003 12:48:16 PM PDT by weegee
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To: FreedomCalls
But if he stopped trimming them...
34 posted on 06/29/2003 12:56:49 PM PDT by RichInOC (...he'd be a lot more horny, wouldn't he? :-))
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To: Roscoe
I think I see a problem. The parade organizers should have been a little more careful in the wording on their flier.

Join the Parade
"The day will begin at 10 a.m. with a parade designed to delight children of all ages. It will include bands, floats, a string of City vehicles and marching groups representing a CROSS SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY. EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO JOIN." (caps added)

Who'd thought that the gays would want to invite themselves.

35 posted on 06/29/2003 1:34:30 PM PDT by Nan48
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Gays are disqualified as being a family!
36 posted on 06/29/2003 2:13:55 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Nan48
Homosexuals discriminate too:

Straight 'Pride Idol' ruffles some gays' feathers

"I think most people get the message that Pride is about inclusion," Witherington said. "We are asking the rest of the world for respect, and if we can't do it on our doorstep, what chance to do we have of persuading the rest of the world?"

I thought that they were arguing that this is a private matter and that no one knows what goes on behind closed doors. Then why shout it in the streets? Why have a parade route lined with trashcans advertising a sex lube and the slogan "Get Lubed!"?

37 posted on 06/29/2003 2:17:53 PM PDT by weegee
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To: fiddlinjim
As I have said before, "When they start hanging ACLU, I will gladly buy the first rope".

I'll call and raise you a pickup truck. B-P
38 posted on 06/29/2003 2:45:09 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Laws are the spider webs through which the big bugs fly past and the little ones get caught.")
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To: Mr. Mulliner
INTREP
39 posted on 06/29/2003 4:32:23 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Roscoe
hat's what all the liberaltarians constantly whine

Jim Robinson considers "liberaltarians" to be "our good friends".

40 posted on 06/30/2003 9:14:33 AM PDT by jmc813 (If you're interested in joining a FR list to discuss Big Brother 4 on CBS, please FReepmail me)
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Homosexuality:

Homosexuality is deviant sexual behavior and a mental illness.

Homosexuals: 1) subject their body parts to uses nature did not intend, such activities often presenting immediate risk to the participants; 2) are prone to greater suicide, depression and other mental disorders and deficiencies than the heterosexual population at large; 3) are prone to far greater sexually transmitted diseases, including AIDS, than the (normal) heterosexual population; 4) molest young people (pedophilia) at a far greater rate than heterosexuals; 5) engage in degrading sexual promiscuity, oftentimes engaging in risky sex with many partners during the same event; 6) are engaged in aggressive and widespread efforts to indoctrinate our children by introducing the homosexual lifestyle using public schools as the primary indoctrination “vehicle” and likewise, through the movie/music/TV industry, with the dual goals of gaining school-age acceptance of homosexuality and encouraging sexual activity among children, especially same-sex experimentation; 7) view most everything through a mindset heavily biased in favor of the homosexual lifestyle and culture, which renders them mostly useless when asked to opine on matters that normal heterosexuals better resolve.

The mental deficiencies described herein applying to homosexuals shall not be confused with the deficiencies associated with the left wing democrat/socialist/marxist/ feminist/environmentalist minds, etc., which have their own distinct set of mental disorders.

This doesn't even touch on what the Bible has to say about homosexuality.

41 posted on 06/30/2003 9:17:29 AM PDT by Imagine
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Two of my sons, when they were in their late teens/early twenties, went on shalichut (that is the Jewish version of outreach ministry) in San Francisco and Miami South Beach. Although not particularly prejudiced to begin with, they both returned home confirmed "homophobes" although my son claims that is not the accurate word. "I'm not afraid of gays," he said, "but they had better be very afraid of me!"
42 posted on 06/30/2003 9:21:05 AM PDT by Alouette
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To: jmc813
Jim Robinson considers "liberaltarians" to be "our good friends".

False friends sometimes deceive the good hearted.

43 posted on 06/30/2003 12:14:11 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Alouette
"I'm not afraid of gays," he said, "but they had better be very afraid of me!"

Ouch! This from one just back from ministry? Did he extract confessions and win souls with a Louisville Slugger?
44 posted on 06/30/2003 1:17:16 PM PDT by Kahonek
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To: Kahonek
This from one just back from ministry? Did he extract confessions and win souls with a Louisville Slugger?

He has no patience with queers who covet his ass, who hit on him constantly and then tell him, "you're in denial."

45 posted on 06/30/2003 4:38:13 PM PDT by Alouette
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To: Alouette
Repeat after me...

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me."

Seriously, now. What's he planning to do to the gay person who commits the horrible offense of thinking he's attractive and asking him out?
46 posted on 06/30/2003 4:49:41 PM PDT by Kahonek
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To: upchuck
Update: A local judge ruled against the gay activists late on Thursday; too late for an appeal before the event on Saturday morning. The queers turned out in force at the parade to protest and got their mugs on local TV calling everyone homophobes and bigots. The usual stuff.

"Look at ME! Look at ME! Look at ME!" Like a bunch of three year olds begging for attention.

They had their own "Gay Pride" parade the weekend before but that wasn't enough for them. They had to barge in on the Christian Coalition's Family Day parade too.

What a bunch of jerks.
47 posted on 07/07/2003 2:38:37 PM PDT by Chuckster ("If honor were profitable, everybody would be honorable." Thomas More)
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To: Chuckster
Thanks for the update. The behavior you described is pretty much normal for them. Glad their over-the-top antics got on TV. I suspect many normal folks are turned off by this.
48 posted on 07/08/2003 5:57:30 AM PDT by upchuck (Contribute to "Republicans for Al Sharpton for President in 2004." Dial 1-800-SLAPTHADONKEY :)
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