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Iranian Alert: Cuba reportedly Jamming US Based Iranian broadcasters Uplink Signal Into Iran.
NITV | 7.8.2003 | DoctorZin

Posted on 07/08/2003 1:04:07 PM PDT by DoctorZIn

This just in...

Today is the day all Iran has been waiting for, the day the protests and strikes are to begin in earnest. As a result, the Iranian government has successfully, but temporarily jammed all the signals of the LA based Iranian broadcasters.

They are now jamming the uplink signal, here in the United States as well. The uplink signal is the signal from the broadcast studio to the satellite, which is then relayed to another satellite and finally broadcast over Iran. This started occurring a few days ago. I was told that the FCC now believes the jamming is coming from within Cuba.

This should be reported in all the media. But the media is still silent, (except for a brief mention of these jamming incidents in today’s National Review Online).

The broadcasters are convinced that one or more of them will eventually get a signal through. They are busily readjusting their systems to use different satellites. I wish you could hear what these broadcasters are saying to the people of Iran. They are essentially calling for the people to revolt. Giving specific instructions to the people regarding how to do this. They are able to say things our government would never say. They are also strong advocates of an American style conservative ideology replacing the Islamic regime. They are teaching the people of Iran what freedom is and what it requires. Most are conservative Republicans and they are considered heroes in Iran.

Good news, the phones still appear to be working, at least for the moment. I will keep you posted.

DoctorZIn

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail me”


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrineunfold; cuba; fcc; iran; iranianalert; jammers; protests; satellitetv; studentmovement; warlist
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To: Grampa Dave
Wasnt there a report by Bill Gertz a while back that some of Saddams cronies were hiding in Cuba?
41 posted on 07/08/2003 2:01:02 PM PDT by ewing
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To: DoctorZIn
Looked up the Iranian shortwave broadcasts in English targeting North America.

Here are the two frequencies, UTC times.

Haven't tried them myself yet, but:

9590, 11920KHz, both at 0030-0127 and 0130-0227

(This IS the government broadcast)

42 posted on 07/08/2003 2:02:47 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Frank_Discussion
Not only have I read (and studied) Nyquist but also Kagan and Kagan, (Paul) Johnson, Golitsyn, Sejna, Sokolovskii, Subrarov, Bodansky, Nemets and Patton.
43 posted on 07/08/2003 2:04:23 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: Steel Wolf
Lourdes..... with recent Chinese (and perhaps additional covert Russian) upgrades.....
44 posted on 07/08/2003 2:05:32 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: Publius
Okay, I'll grant that NSA could block the signal with far greater ease than the Cubans. Beyond that, there's no logic in us keeping Iran together.

The Administration is very good at alternating between tension and slack, and if we're cutting them some slack right now, it's probably because we don't want to make the Iranian students look like puppets. If we were caught, or it were later discovered, that we helped the mullahs stay in power, we'd destroy our relationship with the new Iran.

It's possible, but it would be a high risk, no gain proposition.

45 posted on 07/08/2003 2:07:43 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Sarcasm: Don't leave home without it.)
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To: belmont_mark
You've surpassed me in the subject matter - What conclusions does the information lead you to?
46 posted on 07/08/2003 2:12:02 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: belmont_mark
Okay, but why? Why would Castro risk getting in our business (if the signals originate from the U.S., it's legally our business) just to help out the Iranians? Castro's been all talk, no game when it comes to the U.S. for about 40 years. He is so close to us, we'd easily spot the signal and be all over him.
47 posted on 07/08/2003 2:12:49 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Sarcasm: Don't leave home without it.)
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To: blanknoone
From an omni-directional perspective (radio tower) you would be right, but in directional broadcast, it would be easiest to direct a second signal at the satelite

It would require quite a bit of finesse to target and jam one signal going into a communications satellite, and not interfere with any of the others, which would be on very similar frequencies.

From earlier protests and TV disruptions, Iranians had noted the installation of certain devices around the city of Tehran that were suspected to be jammers. They did experience considerable interference, although not a complete blackout.

48 posted on 07/08/2003 2:21:11 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Sarcasm: Don't leave home without it.)
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To: Steel Wolf
Why would Castro risk getting in our business (if the signals originate from the U.S., it's legally our business) just to help out the Iranians?

Oil. His economy is falling apart. It is worth the risk for him.

49 posted on 07/08/2003 2:21:57 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Steel Wolf
The Administration is very good at alternating between tension and slack, and if we're cutting them some slack right now, it's probably because we don't want to make the Iranian students look like puppets.

You're correct about the Administration's good cop/bad cop act. They're very good at this. And certainly we wouldn't want to make the students look like they're doing our bidding.

But you need to keep your eye on the ball. Iran will fall eventually, but the ball at the moment is Iraq. We're running into trouble fighting an urban insurgency. We've never been very good at fighting insurgencies, and it's one of our weakest areas militarily. We need to keep the mullahs from assisting their brethren in Iraq, and you can be sure the mullahs are charging a price. They do nothing for free.

If we were caught, or it were later discovered, that we helped the mullahs stay in power, we'd destroy our relationship with the new Iran...It's possible, but it would be a high risk, no gain proposition.

High risk, yes. But the risk is necessary because of the situation in Iraq. We assumed a good clean surrender (like Japan in 1945), and we didn't get it. So now it gets complicated.

That's why we have all these cover stories. Yesterday, it was vans driving around Atlanta. Today it's Cuba. If the NSA isn't responsible for the jamming as part of an unspoken agreement between the Administration and the mullahs, the NSA certainly knew within minutes who was responsible and either would have stopped it (vans in Atlanta) or sent a warning (Cuba). Instead, we have the spectacle of the "FCC" being unable to figure out who is doing the jamming and from where. The cover stories don't pass the smell test.

We're taking the risk of alienating the future government of Iran for the sake of getting the situation in Iraq under control. It's realpolitik. It's ugly.

50 posted on 07/08/2003 2:24:19 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Lady Heron
Oil's no good if your island gets its shipments blockad. Not so hard to do when he's already on the 'Naughty' sanctions list, and he gets caught in an overt, hostile act. Yes, he needs the oil, but this is a very risky way to go about it.
51 posted on 07/08/2003 2:30:16 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Sarcasm: Don't leave home without it.)
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To: Publius
Iran will fall eventually, but the ball at the moment is Iraq. We're running into trouble fighting an urban insurgency. We've never been very good at fighting insurgencies, and it's one of our weakest areas militarily.

Don't buy the hype, Iraq is locked down solid. There are still random nutjobs from neighboring countries that can't wait to die for Allah, but they're being helped as fast as they arrive. The Iraqis are done as an organized force, and the sporadic resistance from them is far less than from the out-of-towners.

We could leap into Syria or Iran right now, and Iraq would remain firmly under our control. We don't need to cut any deals with the mullahs. We're in no danger from them or from the soon to be extinct jihadists in Iraq.

Clearly there is a lot that isn't on the table, or things that don't quite add up, but assuming that we're cutting a deal with Iran because we're floundering in Iraq is flawed reasoning.

52 posted on 07/08/2003 2:43:18 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Sarcasm: Don't leave home without it.)
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To: Steel Wolf
Is it an overt hostil act against the USA to block a radio transmition from a private group in the US though? I am asuming that it is not our government sending the radio transmitions. I doubt that we would stop a shipment of oil to Cuba for them blocking radio transmitions from this group. Do we prevent other countries from doing comerce with Cuba or just ourselves?

If I were Castro, it would be worth the payment to help out Iran. The risk is little, we would have to take a overt stand against Cuba and admit we are meddling in Iranian politics. When if we want the signal to get to Iran we transmit it from the Arabian Gulf, instead of confronting Cuba.

53 posted on 07/08/2003 2:49:27 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Lady Heron
Interfering with commerce and business isn't really allowed, even if its not government owned. You can't attack foriegn businesses, either by overt force, threats, or sabotage, and expect to get away with it. Under international law it would be very similiar to piracy or setting up an illegal blockade.

This is an American business doing business in America apparently being targeted by a foriegn nation. What would you do if you went to work, and the power, phones, and water had been shut off? Your company could lose business, fall behind, or eventually go broke. This is one of the few things that governments are specifically designed to prevent, unfair interference. If this were to be proven, Cuba wouldn't have a leg to stand on legally.

At the moment we only restrict ourselves from doing business with Cuba, but that can change in a heartbeat if they want to play dirty.

54 posted on 07/08/2003 3:06:03 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Sarcasm: Don't leave home without it.)
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To: Frank_Discussion
Increasingly, small players such as Cuba, who are client states of the Russian - Chinese Bloc, and Iran, who are now the big kahuna in the Islamist Bloc, are overt in their cooperation. What has been largely covert since the early 1990s (although, in fairness, read Bodansky, it was never completely covert) is now out in the open. We (the US and our allies) are being publicly tuanted much in the same way we were during the 1970s. Yes, we have made progress on certain fronts such as Afghanistan and Iraq. However, what we now see is that same old alignment between the large anti Western nation states such as Russia and the PRC, small "socialist" and Communist "developing nations" and an increasing number of "non aligned" nations who predictably mouth an anti Western screed. Deja Vu again.....
55 posted on 07/08/2003 3:22:34 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: Steel Wolf
I do not view Castro as a lone actor. Given all of the various exchanges and meetings over the past two years between Cuba and Iran, Russia, Venezuela, the PRC, Syria and other vermin, he is likely playing his role in a larger plan.
56 posted on 07/08/2003 3:24:38 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: Steel Wolf
I believe that the insurgency in Iraq is getting substantial aid and advice from players in Iran, Syria and the "former" Soviet Union.
57 posted on 07/08/2003 3:26:43 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: All
This just in...

I was told that the FCC will annouce the source o the jamming in the next few hours.

I will report what I find as soon as I get it.

DoctorZin
58 posted on 07/08/2003 3:47:24 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad... The July 9th protests and strikes begin)
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To: DoctorZIn
"I will report what I find as soon as I get it."

Thank you for the post and the updates.
This thing is bothersome.

59 posted on 07/08/2003 4:03:24 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: DoctorZIn
Bump to you all. Great info here.

Whoever is doing the jamming needs to learn a hard lesson, fast.

Free Persia!
60 posted on 07/08/2003 4:05:05 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (huh.)
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