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President makes overtures to blacks
Washington Times ^ | Wednesday, July 23, 2003 | By Bill Sammon

Posted on 07/22/2003 10:46:34 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:05:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

President Bush's upcoming meeting with the Urban League, coupled with his snubbing of more-militant black groups, mirrors his outreach to moderate Palestinians while ignoring Yasser Arafat.

In both cases, Mr. Bush hopes to turn nearly hopeless relationships into constructive dialogues with groups not known for their fondness of conservatives.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004; blackvote; donnabrazile; gwb2004; naacp; outreach; urbanleague
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To: ServesURight; rdb3; Warrior Nurse
Bush and the Republicans should stop pandering to blacks. The conservative message is in itself a winning message to blacks.

I'll agree that we shouldn't be pandering (nor pandered to), but the message has to be delivered to the black community.

I've said this before -- as long as we allow Jesse Jackson, the NAACP, Al Sharpton, et.al.-ad nauseum to spew their venom in the black community unchecked, we are allowing them to deliver our message (albeit filtered through their "capable" hands and voices) for us.

Our biggest challenge in terms of outreach is to put our unfiltered message directly in the black community. And until most people in the GOP can see that, we won't be able to even get started at making any serious inroads. Jackson, et.al. have appointed themselves de-facto gatekeepers to black America.

The only way we can get our message into black America in it's true form (i.e., not distorted by the lies and hatred of the likes of Julian Bond and others) is to go around those gatekeepers. That job is not an easy one. But it is one that is well worth taking on. The President has the right idea, by going to the Urban League and blowing off the NAACP. It is a solid start. It is not, however, pandering to the audience.

To those that see it as pandering, would you equally dissuade the President from speaking to the Religious Right?

I'm sure that thought would never enter your head. But if you substitute Christian Conservatives for black Americans, then you can see where I'm coming from.

21 posted on 07/23/2003 7:58:24 AM PDT by mhking
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To: T Lady
It seems every time I pick up an edition of Jet Magazine, they're always addressing a Democratic issue in its Politics section

We have to crawl before we walk.

Nearly everything I write for Project 21 ends up appearing in most black newspapers across the nation (including the Nation of Islam's Final Call). I've had more than one piece to appear in regional black magazines as well.

Many of those editors are beginning to see the value of providing an alternative view.

I'll admit that it is done to try to bolster their own views in many cases, but in others, it is a legitimate effort to provide a well thought-out alternative to what is percieved as "mainstream" black thought.

The other posters here are correct. Exposure in black media is crucial. Black radio (at least Urban Contemporary) is among the most lucrative formats in American radio (third only to News/Talk and Country). Tom Joyner reaches more affluent black households than Rush Limbaugh ever could at the present.

And while the George Curry's (former editor of the now-defunct Emerge, known for referring to Clarence Thomas as a "handkerchief-headed Negro" in that magazine) of the world are still out there, they are no-longer legion.

The wheels of change roll inexorbly slow, but they do roll.

22 posted on 07/23/2003 8:05:25 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Riverman94610
Part of the strategery is to NOT encourage Black Democrat voters to go to the polls at election time.
23 posted on 07/23/2003 8:06:30 AM PDT by Consort
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To: NYC Republican
Consider the future demographics.

That's key. Look at where black dollars are being spent. Most people ignore the fact that were the "black economy" of the US consolidated as a separate state, only California would outspend it?

That belies considerable size and strength -- were you able to harness that strength.

But it takes work. And that is work that many are not willing to do, because the benefit will not come immediately. That benefit will take literally years to come to fruit.

And let's not forget that while we work, so will our adversaries. This will make that work that much more difficult. But not insurmountable.

24 posted on 07/23/2003 8:09:20 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Consort
Part of the strategery is to NOT encourage Black Democrat voters to go to the polls at election time.

Not true. That actually plays into the poverty pimps' hands. Look at the carping about Florida, when there was no active campaign to dissuade voters.

You never want to dissuade anyone from voting.

On the contrary, you want to get them so mad at your opposition that they do come out...and vote for you.

25 posted on 07/23/2003 8:11:16 AM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking
Just a few things that the President needs to do with this trip to the Urban League:

By doing this, the President would gain some respect in the black community plus he might even change some minds. I am not a rich man but I wish there were such a person who could spend about $30 Million in the inner city to convince the minority community of what they are missing by not voting Republican. By doing this, we might actually get the black vote up to around 20-25% within ten years. If such a high percentage of blacks were to vote Republican, the Democrats would never win another major election in this country. That would be good for everyone!

26 posted on 07/23/2003 8:18:09 AM PDT by GmbyMan (everythingpolitics.blogspot.com)
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To: mhking
You never want to dissuade anyone from voting.

You always prefer a low turnout for the opposition.

27 posted on 07/23/2003 8:29:14 AM PDT by Consort
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To: ServesURight; mhking
Blacks have always been conservative. Black families used to look after each other kids and report them to their parents when they goofed off. Blacks have always prided themselves with family reunions, picnics, and other gatherings.

I am in agreement. The black families I know work hard, they strive for the American dream just like I do, they want their children to have it beter just like I do, they are involved in Scouting and attend church, and are good friends and neighbors and members of the community. In short, they are Republicans, they just don't know it yet.

Yes, I am aware that their are elements within the black community that use drugs, engage in irresponsible sex, sponge off the taxpayer, and so forth. But, you know what, there are people like that of every color. In my youth, we used the term "White Trash" to describe this type of caucasion. I don't even know if that's a racially charged term or not now, but it was very descriptive.

Blacks need to learn the hard way that the Rats are playing them for fools.

Hogwash. We're one Nation. When one suffers we all do. Consider this. GWB almost lost the Presidency because of the Florida mess. If we had gotten just 1% more of the minority vote in Florida, Florida wouldn't have been an issue (well, except for the "I voted for Buchanan by mistake" crowd).

How come it's not "pandering" when the President speaks to the Chamber of Commerce, or to the VFW, or to most groups, but it is pandering for him to speak to the Urban League?

They're the same thing. The President is building bridges and delivering his message and gathering support for his plans for our Nation. I don't want to exclude anyone.

As MHK said in a subsequent post to yours, a Republican message is ALREADY being delivered to the minority community. Problem is, we're not the one delivering it.

28 posted on 07/23/2003 8:30:26 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: Consort
You always prefer a low turnout for the opposition.

I could never encourage someone not to exercise their right to vote. Too many people have fought and died to ensure that we have and keep that right. It is irresponsible to suggest otherwise.

29 posted on 07/23/2003 8:33:05 AM PDT by mhking
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To: JohnHuang2
the president is also seeking a more tangible political dividend, an increased share of the black vote in the 2004 election.

$15 billion to Africa (couresty of the hard-working American taxpayer) isn't going to do it. Speaking before the Urban League isn't going to do it. NOTHING will do it, short of giving at least $10,000 - again, courtesy of hard-working taxpayers - to every black in this country ....as a "reparation".

30 posted on 07/23/2003 8:39:30 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: mhking
Not encouraging people to vote (my assertion) is not the same as discouraging people from voting (your assertion). You are confusing the principle with the practical.
31 posted on 07/23/2003 8:45:02 AM PDT by Consort
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To: TontoKowalski
How come it's not "pandering" when the President speaks to the Chamber of Commerce, or to the VFW, or to most groups, but it is pandering for him to speak to the Urban League?

It isn't pandering for President Bush to speak to the urban league but it would be pandering if he went there and started talking about government giveaways and quotas (aka, affirmative action). The President needs to take the conservative message to these groups. Conseravitism is an even more sensible policy for blacks than it is for whites. The President needs to stress this!

32 posted on 07/23/2003 8:47:07 AM PDT by GmbyMan (everythingpolitics.blogspot.com)
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To: ServesURight
Blacks have always been conservative.

OH please.

33 posted on 07/23/2003 8:53:51 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssstian)
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To: jagrmeister
Your points are excellent but only for free thinking black people that have escaped from the Democratic plantation. Remember all the problems in the ghettos are the fault of the Republicans. Whem liberals like Tom Joyner and Tavis Smiley spout their nonsense without challenge or rebuttal that makes our message hard to get out to the inner city.

Most of the listeners of Urban Radio show do not question the political content of these shows. They will never put a black conservative on these shows.
34 posted on 07/23/2003 12:07:12 PM PDT by Warrior Nurse (Ready for war but praying for peace!)
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To: mhking
You know you are right Mike, most of the Democratic constituency want something for nothing because they consider it "gettin' over on the man." When I was in college I was a temporary mailman for one summer and you wouldn't believe around the 3rd of the month how many people would cash the welfare checks and go and buy booze or drugs and damn near snatch the postal bag for their money. The same way on the 15 when the unemployment checks would come.

These are the hard heads that have to be cracked. I don't know if you caught John Mcworter on Bob Costas and the Rapper Damon Dane but the rapper all but called McWorter a sell out and that he has never experienced the so called "ghetto experience" This is psychosis and demented thinking. I don't know about you but Rush is right when he says liberalism is a disease. It is a disease of the mind.
35 posted on 07/23/2003 12:18:03 PM PDT by Warrior Nurse (Ready for war but praying for peace!)
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To: biblewonk
It is true most rank and file blacks are conservative when you break down issues one at a time like abortion and school vouchers. Someone has to point out the hypocrisy of the Democratic leadership. After 40 years the cities are not looking any different. The welfare state did to black people what slavery and Jim Crow couldn't it wiped out the black family. With over 70% of childern born out of wedlock and literacy rates in the crapper these are issues that should be addressed in an in your face fashion.

It is time to play hardball with the Dems. We need to grab them by the balls and squeeze them until they start admiting truths.

36 posted on 07/23/2003 12:26:15 PM PDT by Warrior Nurse (Ready for war but praying for peace!)
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To: T Lady
What would you suggest in terms of making inroads into the black community. A recent Gallup poll showed that even amongst blacks, they thought of Colin Powell, a Republican, as the most important black leader- ahead of Jesse Jackson. It tells me there's an opportunity to be heard. The question is how?
37 posted on 07/23/2003 12:40:37 PM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: Warrior Nurse
It is true most rank and file blacks are conservative when you break down issues one at a time like abortion and school vouchers.

Are you counting the black men in prison or the black men that have kids but no wives? The black family is the prime example of what conservative family values is not about. What has happened to the black family and how does this reflect an intrinsic conservative nature?

38 posted on 07/23/2003 1:13:05 PM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssstian)
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To: biblewonk
Are you talking about all black families?
39 posted on 07/23/2003 1:20:23 PM PDT by tru_degenerate ('I have not always been right, but I have always been sincere.' - WEB Du Bois)
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To: tru_degenerate
Absolutely not, but the original statement seemed to be and that is where I take issue. For the original statement to be trying to talk about the majority is also quite a stretch given the statistics. I said seems to be.
40 posted on 07/23/2003 1:22:27 PM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssstian)
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