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Critics slam Davis over new 'cross-dresser' law
WND ^ | August 4, 2003

Posted on 08/04/2003 6:29:34 PM PDT by hotpotato

California Gov. Gray Davis added fuel to his opponents' recall fire by signing a controversial bill that authorizes fines of up to $150,000 for companies or nonprofit groups, such as the Boy Scouts, that discriminate against cross-dressers, transsexuals or drag queens.

The governor signed the measure Saturday along with the $71.1 billion budget for fiscal year 2003-4. The move fell under the radar screens of most California media outlets.

The law, which will take effect Jan. 1, 2004, adds "gender identity or expression" to the characteristics protected under California's Fair Employment and Housing Act and specifically protects residents whose "perceived gender characteristics are different from those traditionally associated with the individual's sex at birth."

The Assembly approved the bill in April by a vote of 41 to 34, the minimum needed to pass. The state Senate, led by Democrats, followed suit earlier this month with a vote of 23 to 11.

The new law, which provides an exemption for religious groups, makes California the fourth state to bar discrimination on the basis of "perceived gender," behind New Mexico, Rhode Island and Minnesota.

Homosexual-rights advocates hail the law as a victory that's been a long time in coming.

"It's a very big issue for the LGBT [lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender] community in California," Shannon Minter, legal director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, told the Associated Press. "It's something we've been working on for three years."

The measure, titled AB 196, was one of a package proposed this year by the five-member Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Caucus. Earlier this year, the state Assembly passed a bill that would award virtually all the rights of marriage to homosexual "domestic partners." The Senate is expected to take it up next month.

"Having a law that specifically states who's protected makes it clear to employers that the majority of people in California want transgender people to be able to work in a nondiscriminatory environment," said Chris Daley, co-director of the Transgender Law Center in San Francisco.

Arguing for its necessity, the bill's sponsor, Assemblyman Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, cites a 1999 study by the San Francisco Department of Public Health indicating the city's transgender population had a 70 percent unemployment rate.

"We must do everything in our power to protect such fundamental human rights," he said.

Opponents call the move bad for business. Employer groups such as the California Chamber of Commerce and the California Manufacturers and Technology Association warn the law's overly subjective definitions will spawn frivolous lawsuits. Just about any comment or action between workers could be grounds for a lawsuit, they contend.

Assemblyman Dennis Mountjoy of Monrovia was one of several members who spoke about how the measure harms California businesses during debate in the Assembly.

"If I have a Christian bookstore, how could I possibly follow this law?" he asked. "How could I possibly have an employee that's here today in a dress, tomorrow may come in a suit, and then stay in a dress? How can I possibly employ this employee and still have the Christian bookstore and live by my faith?"

Randy Thomasson, executive director of Campaign for California Families, a statewide family issues leadership organization, describes the law as "attacking persons of conscience."

"Average people think it's outrageous to force the sex-change lifestyle upon businesses and Boy Scouts. Gray Davis has apparently lost his senses," he said. "With his signature on AB 196, Davis has declared war on Californians who object to sex-change operations."

As WorldNetDaily reported, Davis' signature will likely motivate opponents to turn out in greater numbers for the Oct. 7 recall vote.

Less than a year into his second term, Davis is grappling with a staggering deficit projected at more than $38 billion and rock-bottom approval ratings. He becomes the first sitting governor in the history of California and only the second in U.S. history to face a recall election.

The governor derides the drive to oust him as "a hostile takeover by the right," and allies have said they expect to spend $15 million to $20 million to keep him in office.

With the Aug. 9 filing deadline looming, hundreds of people – from activists and filmmakers to a comedian and billboard queen – have filed to have their names added to the ballot. Self-described "smut peddler" Larry Flynt joined the dozens who have paid the $3,500 filing fee.

U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa, who bankrolled the recall signature-gathering recall effort with $1.7 million of his own money – is the only declared Republican in the race. Failed gubernatorial candidate Bill Simon and state Sen. Tom McClintock, R-Thousand Oaks are expected to run. Others contemplating a run are state Sen. Bruce McPherson, R-Santa Cruz, actor Arnold Schwarzenegger and controversial, nationally syndicated radio talk-show host Michael Savage.

Opponents of the "cross-dresser bill" plan to hold a news tomorrow at 10:30 a.m. at the State Treasurer's Building in Sacramento to highlight the law's detrimental effect on business. Speakers will include Thomasson and other pro-family leaders, including local ministers representing black, white and Latino voters.

"By supporting the transsexual agenda that hurts everyone else, Gray Davis has earned his recall," said Thomasson. "The in-your-face transsexual agenda makes voters very angry. ... Gray Davis tried to hide his actions by signing this radical sex-change bill under cover of the budget, but he won't get away with it."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
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Just... what can you say. Cross-dressing is a sexual fetish. The California governor has just signed into legislation a bill which opens the door for voyeurism in women's restrooms in public and work and school. If your daughter's heterosexual teacher decides he wants to start using the girls' restroom, he can just show up in drag. Think I'm kidding? It's already happening.
1 posted on 08/04/2003 6:29:35 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: hotpotato
Next people will be forced to hire necrophiliacs, Dominatrix, beastiality types, and worse just because Gay Dufus says so.
Unless he's recalled first before that idea bubbles up from his backside.
2 posted on 08/04/2003 6:33:20 PM PDT by Darksheare ("I didn't say it wouldn't burn, I said it wouldn't hurt.")
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To: hotpotato
Sounds like a great scam for getting that job or that promotion. Just toss on something slinky with rhinestones, do up the hair, apply some make-up and with those spike heels just walk into HR and demand whatever with the threat of a lawsuit for discrimination.
3 posted on 08/04/2003 6:36:00 PM PDT by Dr Warmoose
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To: hotpotato
Gee........the sooner the big one hits California, the sooner sanity will return to the new west coast...Nevada.
4 posted on 08/04/2003 6:38:45 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: hotpotato; Ernest_at_the_Beach
FGS! Pinging Ernest! Time to alert the troops!
5 posted on 08/04/2003 6:38:55 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: hotpotato
This bill is sick, and is just another reason why democrats are scum, totally committed to the destruction of US institutions and way of life. They have been since the sixties, and it's exactly that counterculture generation that is now running many local and state governments.
6 posted on 08/04/2003 6:39:24 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Yep,the sick basterds all belong in the loony bin.
7 posted on 08/04/2003 6:43:08 PM PDT by JOHANNES801
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To: Darksheare
Unless he's recalled first before that idea bubbles up from his backside

And only then so long as the "replacement" isn't equally or more extreme. It's a very real possibility that this once glorious recall could become the beginning of a new nightmare. Too many "bafoon" candidates.

8 posted on 08/04/2003 6:43:19 PM PDT by YoungKentuckyConservative
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9 posted on 08/04/2003 6:45:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (All we need from a Governor is a VETO PEN!!!)
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To: hotpotato
The bill was signed as a favor to the California AG who indentified by a SoCal police agency as a CD years ago when the then young politico ran with the Hollywood crowd.
10 posted on 08/04/2003 6:46:08 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Good thing I have no intention of advertising for a room-mate.After all, I just might "discriminate" against a protected weirdo class!

Thank goodness I dont own my own business!What if I needed to hire an employee to "represent" my company and work with the in-place team?
But then, I dont live in California....
11 posted on 08/04/2003 6:46:34 PM PDT by sarasmom (Punish France, Ignore Germany, Forgive Russia. Canada-well they are mostly French)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Isn't this something? This desperate and dispicable monster is pulling-out all stops!

It's going to be a big night in Hillcrest tonight.
12 posted on 08/04/2003 6:48:01 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Not a bill anymore...

It's a law. One more reason to boycott California.
13 posted on 08/04/2003 6:48:13 PM PDT by Ronin (Qui tacet consentit!)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
There is a lot of ignorance out there about transgenderism and transsexualism and it's because logical debate is not allowed. Anyone questioning the validity of claims made about TG, TS, etc., are labeled as hate mongering or unPC, etc. People have become complacent and gullible about what this really is and accept the words of Oprah and other talkshow hosts who promote this as a gender identity problem needing tolerance. There is no empirical data to support the bogus theories being pushed onto the public about the cause of this "condition." However, if the TG/TS community can get the public to buy into their "physciolgically caused predicament," then the world is their candy store (as well as women's restrooms).

Gray Davis has sold out the citizens of the state of California AGAIN.
14 posted on 08/04/2003 6:49:57 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: hotpotato
Just one more reason to recall Davis and vote for a replacement who will get the state's priorities straight, like Tom McClintock.
15 posted on 08/04/2003 6:50:12 PM PDT by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Great post. The Dems have transformed deviancy into a human rights issue.
16 posted on 08/04/2003 6:54:15 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: hotpotato
I forgot to add the desire for the TG/TS to have access to opposite gender gyms and lockerrooms.

Assemblyman Mark Leno, the bill's sponsor, stated in an interview when asked about restrooms that the bill does not deal with the separate restroom issues. In other words, there will be lawsuits that businesses will now have to deal with coming from TGs that want to use the opposite-gender restroom and those with the appropriate XX, XY chromosomes suing for privacy. The people of California have no idea what's about to hit them.
17 posted on 08/04/2003 6:59:12 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: Starboard
You've hit the nail on the head.
18 posted on 08/04/2003 6:59:58 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: Amerigomag
California AG who indentified by a SoCal police agency as a CD years ago

Got any photos? They could be useful in derailing his position anytime he showed up in public. We could pass 'em out in the audience.

19 posted on 08/04/2003 7:02:43 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: onyx
Gawd help us all.
20 posted on 08/04/2003 7:05:08 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: sarasmom
Thank goodness I dont own my own business!What if I needed to hire an employee to "represent" my company and work with the in-place team?

It's crazy if you think about it, what if a lawyer in a firm or someone in a sales department suddenly decides he's a woman and starts cross-dressing at work? Legally they can't fire him now without fear of a discrimination suit.

It's no wonder more and more are setting up home businesses and home schooling their kids.

21 posted on 08/04/2003 7:10:31 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
There will be a civil war in this country between the right and the left.It may not be a shooting war but its going to get ugly before it gets better.My ancestors where some of the first settlers here.I can hear their crys of anger and disgust.
22 posted on 08/04/2003 7:15:22 PM PDT by JOHANNES801
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To: JOHANNES801
In Late Republican Rome, about 50 years before Caesar, they had what were called the 'Social Wars'.

They were not very social.
23 posted on 08/04/2003 7:20:34 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: headsonpikes
Er...sociable, either. ;^)
24 posted on 08/04/2003 7:22:00 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Jonx6
ping
25 posted on 08/04/2003 7:31:40 PM PDT by TXFireman
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To: Ronin
It's a law. One more reason to boycott California.

And just a matter of time before the cancer spreads to NY. Liberal see, liberal do.

26 posted on 08/04/2003 7:31:57 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Navy Patriot
Got any photos?

Nope.

Just a police report posted here about 10 years ago.

Felt by many on this forum to be an urban legend.

27 posted on 08/04/2003 7:39:24 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
So if I live in Cali and a drag queen wants to be my son's scoutmaster, the scout pack must accept he/she/it?
28 posted on 08/04/2003 7:41:58 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers
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To: hotpotato
However, if the TG/TS community can get the public to buy into their "physciolgically caused predicament," then the world is their candy store (as well as women's restrooms).

Maybe it has something to do with wearing the public down. They keep coming and coming with their alternative agendas in the hope people can't take them anymore and give in. And they will not stop until legislation like this exists in all 50 states.

29 posted on 08/04/2003 7:48:26 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: hotpotato
The number of cross dressers, transgenders, and the 'excuse me, but what are you doing in this bathroom?' are a minimal part of the American populace, but are part of the base of the Democrat party.

The Democrats will pander to anyone if it means a vote.

But I believe their support of these fringe elements is for a deeper reason.

They want to make perversion mainstream.

Bring us all down to the lowest level.

What gratification that will give them, I have no idea.

But I find no other explanation for their behavior.
30 posted on 08/04/2003 7:48:50 PM PDT by auntdot
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To: Dems_R_Losers
So if I live in Cali and a drag queen wants to be my son's scoutmaster, the scout pack must accept he/she/it?

No. They can decide they would rather pay $150,000 fine.

31 posted on 08/04/2003 8:03:04 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: JOHANNES801
There will be a civil war in this country between the right and the left.

There was a civil war between the right and left sort of in the 60s. The next one that comes will see the conservatives out in the streets protesting and demonstrating. Politicians are not listening to the people at all on a whole array of social issues and are dragging the country down.

32 posted on 08/04/2003 8:07:12 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: hotpotato
Wow, this disgusting scumbag Davis has got to go.
33 posted on 08/04/2003 8:25:04 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Dems_R_Losers
So if I live in Cali and a drag queen wants to be my son's scoutmaster, the scout pack must accept he/she/it?

I'm not sure given the recent Supreme Court ruling that the Boy Scouts can exclude gays if this law is constitutional. It will probably get challenged as soon as a drag queen gets in their face.

34 posted on 08/04/2003 8:25:47 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
physciolgically -> physiologically (sorry)

Maybe it has something to do with wearing the public down.

It counts on the ignorance of the public or the gullibility of the public to accept what Oprah and PBS say about it without question. The fact is, people do not ask questions, they do not ask that the speaker prove their theory or provide empirical data to support their claims. The claims canNOT be supported but for some reason, the public simply seems to accept the claims. Critical thinking has been left on the roadside somewhere. The internet joins these folks up (TG,TS) and they buy into the same "theories" because everyone knows if you can persuade the public that this is some physiological/biological condition over which they have no control, the public will shrug and as "we must tolerate" and allow them to pursue their fetish in public and full time.

The same problem existed with "recovered memory." The public bought into it without asking questions because the psychiatric industry was promoting the idea, writing papers about it, getting publicity and appearing on talk shows, and using this bogus theory to send people to jail for years. It has finally been debunked thanks to people like Dr. Elizabeth Loftus. Therapists and psychiatrists are now being sued by those who were abused and whose lives were destroyed by this nonsense that even today, much of the public STILL thinks is true. Same with multiple personality disorder diagnosis. It has been debunked. Too late for those who were abused by the "system." We will, in the not too distant future, start to see a whole host of lawsuits brought by those who were persuaded by their therapists that they were in the wrong-gender body and who went on to have gender altering surgery. And for those that may persuade the state to pay for this while they are incarcerated, any lawsuits brought about afterwards claiming the state abused them at their most vulnerable time, will be picked up by us, the taxpayers.

35 posted on 08/04/2003 8:28:08 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: auntdot
If you have the time read Marx,Engels and the Communist Manifesto.

The whole gig is to destroy families,leaving government as the sole provider of security and income.
36 posted on 08/04/2003 8:29:49 PM PDT by ijcr
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To: Dems_R_Losers
So if I live in Cali and a drag queen wants to be my son's scoutmaster, the scout pack must accept he/she/it?

Who cares?
Whatever you do, stay away from that place and you won'thave to worry about it. And if you are there, flee. As fast as your feet can fly, get out of there. Run, don't walk.

37 posted on 08/04/2003 8:30:54 PM PDT by Lancey Howard (Don't be the last white farmer in Zimbabwe.)
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To: Starboard
The Dems have transformed deviancy into a human rights issue.

That party is a joke. I guess the next thing we'll see is Barney Frank in drag on the House floor.

38 posted on 08/04/2003 8:30:58 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Lancey Howard
Who cares?

If you think this won't seep into the rest of the country, think again. What ails California, eventually ails middle America. btw, Minnesota, New Mexico, and Rhode Island have a similar law, already. Just not as many people and as concentrated with fringe groups. Not only will Californians feel this, so will the rest of the country. It's a matter of time.

39 posted on 08/04/2003 8:36:54 PM PDT by hotpotato
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To: Dems_R_Losers
So if I live in Cali and a drag queen wants to be my son's scoutmaster, the scout pack must accept he/she/it?

A judge in San Francisco last week ruled that the Boy Scouts can't use Bilbao Park camping facilities because they require belief in a Supreme Being; therefore, the BSA is a religious institution, not entitled to use public property for meetings (or somesuch bilge). However, following that "logic", the new law does not apply to the BSA because it is a "religion".

I'm sure this is a surprise to the BSA.

40 posted on 08/04/2003 8:56:30 PM PDT by DeFault User
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41 posted on 08/04/2003 8:59:43 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: ijcr
Another interesting pack of lies is the book The Disowned Self. Microsoft is offering the book as a free ebook. The author claimed that religion, specifically Christianity and Judaism, had proved destructive to your psyche. I think he started the "self-esteem" craze.
42 posted on 08/04/2003 9:10:16 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Free! Read my historical romance novels online at http://Writing.Com/authors/vdavisson)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
So if I live in Cali and a drag queen wants to be my son's scoutmaster, the scout pack must accept he/she/it?

I don't think so, 'cause a Federal Magistrate just ruled that the Boy Scouts are a religious group (therefore exempt), though it means they're kicked out of Balboa Park. The Scouts, I mean..

43 posted on 08/04/2003 9:17:09 PM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Meega, Nala Kweesta!!!! (loosely translated: SABERTOOTH IS FREE!!!!))
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To: hotpotato
If employers enforced a strict dress code for all employees perhaps it will help eliminate this problem.
44 posted on 08/04/2003 9:20:40 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: hotpotato
The same problem existed with "recovered memory." The public bought into it without asking questions because the psychiatric industry was promoting the idea, writing papers about it, getting publicity and appearing on talk shows, and using this bogus theory to send people to jail for years.

Yup, there is a large segment of the population that is gullible, and will accept anything told to them, especially if it comes from doctors or therapists, even lawyers. Just look at some of the awards juries have handed out for what were otherwise frivolous lawsuits, like spilling coffee. It's easy to believe there will be those who buy into the argument transvestism is an uncontrollable condition and not a voluntary fetish, which is what it is.

Then there's the mind-numbing "you must be tolerant" mantra which has been spreading to include accepting an openly gay Episcopal bishop, going against centuries of tradition. So there is the wear down factor and the media attention where no one wants to appear intolerant. You combine that with those that are gullible and we get sick legislation like this because legislators realize people are afraid of openly opposing it for fear of being called names, or too dumb to recognize fraud.

I know conservatives will not give in and will continue fighting these perverted laws, but political correctness and stupidity are unfortunately winning.

45 posted on 08/04/2003 9:25:00 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: hotpotato
"The move fell under the radar screens of most California media outlets."

Like hell it did!

46 posted on 08/04/2003 9:30:36 PM PDT by wcbtinman
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To: auntdot
But I believe their support of these fringe elements is for a deeper reason.

Ann Coulter says it in the last (small) chapter of "Treason". Boils down to this - conservatives think man is made in the image of God, and liberals think they are God. Many of them buy into the new-age "I am Godism", or are regular atheists, and virtually all are some variety of secular-humanist, with total rejection of any absolute standards of morality or truth.

This is all based on envy of God, and due to envy, they want to destroy the natural order. The founders wrote about Nature and Nature's God, and the liberals hate that, so they want to destroy the natural order, as the order hints at the creator of that order. They also want "perfection" in the here and now, they are Utopians of one kind or another, and there is no hell on earth worse than an attempted Utopia

And being envious of God's Lordship and His natural order, they want to set themselves as the arbiters of right and wrong (Transgenderism=right, homophobia=wrong).

Add to this mix unending lust (for all manner of gratification) because the only enjoyment or happiness they know is the ephemeral flesh and mind based; they do not admit of the existence of the transcendent Godhead. Many liberals phonily claim to be religious (remember Clintoon and his big Bible) or they ostentatiously and shallowly "convert" to some eastern religion because they erroneously think that such religions are a do-it-yourself moral playground, not seeing that (for instance) Hinduism and Buddhism share the essential unchangeable moral codes as Christianity and Judaism.

They have a strong attraction for destruction; that explains their love for abortion, sterile destructive same sex acts, euthanasia, and so on..

Of course, some conservatives are atheist, but this generally holds true.

47 posted on 08/04/2003 9:37:08 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Amerigomag
Can someone post the picture of Pamela Pantsdown from Australia so we know what we are talking about here....thanks.....(was on a thread a couple of days ago)
48 posted on 08/04/2003 9:52:40 PM PDT by spokeshave
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To: hotpotato
We have to lose this guy, he is a nut and dangerous to our state.

DUMP DAVIS!
49 posted on 08/04/2003 9:54:40 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: hotpotato
One question:

What about the research where pregnant female rats were dosed with cyproterone acetate, an androgen blocker? The male (XY) rat offspring did not exhibit male sexual behavior, they exhibited female sexual behavior. The drug could also, depending upon time of administration, cause a failure to masculinize the genital structures.

Or, for that matter, what about the daughters of the pregnant women who were given DES (diethyl stilbestrol) In addition to genital abnormalities, the girls had a much higher incidence rate for lesbianism. There is strong evidence the DES was responsible.

Also, what about the girls afflicted with adrenogenital syndrome. Those girls had a much higher incidence rate of lesbianism.
50 posted on 08/04/2003 9:59:54 PM PDT by punster
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