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JOHN LOTT PARODY SITE HACKED
http://www.askjohnlott.org ^ | myself

Posted on 08/06/2003 9:48:33 AM PDT by sdk7x7

A website pretending to be that of pro-gun activist John Lott has been hacked...

The site owners posed to be John Lott and misquoted him.

(Excerpt) Read more at askjohnlott.org ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; hackers; johnlott; notbreakingnews; website

1 posted on 08/06/2003 9:48:34 AM PDT by sdk7x7
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To: sdk7x7
Wow, I wonder how that happened. lol
2 posted on 08/06/2003 9:50:01 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: sdk7x7
Good work, hackers.

Now the site owners need to be prosecuted for wire fraud.
3 posted on 08/06/2003 9:50:16 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: *bang_list
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
4 posted on 08/06/2003 9:52:36 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("A 'free man' is a man who wants to be free." -- Chinese proverb)
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To: sdk7x7
I just looked at the site and the owner is whining about HIS first amendment rights being violated. This guy intentionally assumes another man's identity for the purpose of fraud and deceit and cries about HIS rights. He attempts to subvert the second amendment and cries about violation of the first.

Normally I don't support hackers, but in this case I think the guy deserves a medal.

5 posted on 08/06/2003 9:54:06 AM PDT by mbynack
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To: sdk7x7; All
Good for the conservatitve hackers.

Now it is time for legal action in criminal and civil courts.
6 posted on 08/06/2003 9:55:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end," said Uday)
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To: Grampa Dave
AskJohnLott.org was recently hacked by someone who values the Second Ammendment but not the First. Although we at AskJohnLott.org can understand why pro-gun extremists would be afraid of free speech, we believe that the entire Bill of Rights should be upheld.

Ask John Lott will be restored soon. In the meantime, the following sites provide information about the John Lott controversy:

Who Is Mary Rosh?

More Guns, More Crime

Tim Lambert's weblog

Thanks, and long live the Bill of Rights!
7 posted on 08/06/2003 9:57:28 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Can you provide some links for us?

Thanks!
8 posted on 08/06/2003 9:59:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end," said Uday)
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To: Joe Brower
AskJohnLott.org was recently hacked by someone who values the Second Ammendment but not the First. Although we at AskJohnLott.org can understand why pro-gun extremists would be afraid of free speech, we believe that the entire Bill of Rights should be upheld.

Ask John Lott will be restored soon. In the meantime, the following sites provide information about the John Lott controversy:

Who Is Mary Rosh?

More Guns, More Crime

Tim Lambert's weblog

Thanks, and long live the Bill of Rights!


Vigalante justice at it's finest! The first amendment doesn't include lying.
9 posted on 08/06/2003 10:00:49 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR (Don't tread on me!)
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To: mbynack
I just looked at the site and the owner is whining about HIS first amendment rights being violated. This guy intentionally assumes another man's identity for the purpose of fraud and deceit and cries about HIS rights. He attempts to subvert the second amendment and cries about violation of the first.

Normally I don't support hackers, but in this case I think the guy deserves a medal.

I concur. This weasel complaining is kind of like Charles Manson complaining to police that someone murdered HIS pregnant girlfriend!

Isn't it funny how guys like this value one amendment of the Bill of Rights, but completely despise another? Nobody would complain about his opinion if he didn't hijack someone's identity to do it. Smacks of rank cowardice to me.

10 posted on 08/06/2003 10:03:03 AM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: sdk7x7
Normally I don't go to these sites because it really gets my blood boiling. But - I followed the link for "More Guns More Crime" and found the following:

From 1996 to 2000, Texas concealed handgun license holders were arrested for weapon-related offenses at a rate 81 percent higher than that of the general population of Texas, aged 21 and older.1

In the first six months of 1997, the weapon-related offense arrest rate among Texas concealed handgun license holders was more than twice as high as that of the general population of Texas aged 21 years and older.

Of course the source for this is the Brady bunch site. Does anyone have evidence to refute this?

11 posted on 08/06/2003 10:04:15 AM PDT by mbynack
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To: Joe Brower; AAABEST; SLB; harpseal; Eaker; TEXASPROUD
Biggest collective pile of dumbasses I ever saw that don't seem to understand ........

Without the 2nd there is no 1st !

Stay Safe !

12 posted on 08/06/2003 10:11:41 AM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: sdk7x7
Some will find this of more than passing interest: The other Lott controversy
13 posted on 08/06/2003 10:12:37 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: Bikers4Bush
AskJohnLott.org was recently hacked by someone who values the Second Ammendment but not the First. Although we at AskJohnLott.org can understand why pro-gun extremists would be afraid of free speech, we believe that the entire Bill of Rights should be upheld.

Ask John Lott will be restored soon. In the meantime, the following sites provide information about the John Lott controversy:

Who Is Mary Rosh?

More Guns, More Crime

Tim Lambert's weblog

Thanks, and long live the Bill of Rights!


14 posted on 08/06/2003 10:13:15 AM PDT by mbynack
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To: Grampa Dave; Travis McGee
At least they ain't using Travis McGee's picture........:o)

Stay Safe !

15 posted on 08/06/2003 10:14:12 AM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee
You be quiet now, and stop giving gun grabbers suggestions!

At least they ain't using Travis McGee's picture........:o)

16 posted on 08/06/2003 10:17:07 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end," said Uday)
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To: sdk7x7
Posted on 08/05/2003 8:52 AM PDT by pabianice

And by the next day it was hacked. I love it. Congrats to the techie who hacked it.
17 posted on 08/06/2003 10:24:06 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: sdk7x7
Bwaaa....ha ha ha haaaaa.....hack em again
18 posted on 08/06/2003 10:27:32 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: sdk7x7
I nornally wouldn't support hackers, but internet vigilanteism was needed here. First, the ISP should have pulled the web site when Lott contacted them, but they wouldn't even tell him who ran the site. Secondly, the owner probably doesn't even have a legal right to the name. Courts have already ruled(wrongly in many cases I would argue, but none the less, have ruled) that the person who has the name owns teh right to a web domain with that name. For instance, a court made a family, who had reserved the name www.britney.com for their young daughter, to give it to Britney Spears' record label. They were compensated, but they did rule Spears had the right to that domain name. There have been others as well.
19 posted on 08/06/2003 10:32:55 AM PDT by HurkinMcGurkin
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To: TERMINATTOR
"AskJohnLott.org was recently hacked by someone who values the Second Ammendment but not the First."

Actually, the first amendment does not give people the right to say whatever they want, and does not protect those who lie and slander.

What a bunch 'o hypocrites at AskJohnLott.org.
20 posted on 08/06/2003 10:40:01 AM PDT by Henrietta
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To: Bikers4Bush
Golly Be Goshes.

Who could that be.


Glory be, sakes alive.

21 posted on 08/06/2003 10:48:59 AM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER (Citizen Carry)
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To: sdk7x7
Is there a mirror of the hacked site anywhere? Zone-h (http://www.zone-h.org/ ) doesn't seem to have it.
22 posted on 08/06/2003 10:59:21 AM PDT by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
A patriot perhaps?
23 posted on 08/06/2003 11:07:47 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Bikers4Bush
I thought they'd all been rounded up as "terrorists" under the patriot act, and sent to the gulag?


Militia - Got Liberty?

24 posted on 08/06/2003 11:35:49 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR (Don't tread on me!)
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To: sdk7x7
we at AskJohnLott.org can understand why pro-gun extremists would be afraid of free speech

Total BS! Pro-gun sites almost always allow some sort of feedback, but you will be hard pressed to find an email address or message board on an anti-gun site. When you are wrong, it gets difficult when people are allowed to question you.
25 posted on 08/06/2003 11:36:27 AM PDT by itzmygun (Things getting too serious? Visit www.wackoemailer.com.)
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To: sdk7x7
They refute their entire purpose in their msg on the site... they recognize the fact that pro-gun people "value the 2nd Amendment." Apparently they don't...
26 posted on 08/06/2003 11:40:11 AM PDT by sdk7x7 (AMERICA, LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Bikers4Bush
U responsible for it?
27 posted on 08/06/2003 11:42:03 AM PDT by sdk7x7 (AMERICA, LET'S ROLL!)
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To: sdk7x7
Inappropriate question for an open forum. Loose lips sink ships.
28 posted on 08/06/2003 11:54:07 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR (Don't tread on me!)
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To: sdk7x7
Wow. Whatta f---in' tragedy.

C'mon, let's go look, laugh and point.

-Jay
29 posted on 08/06/2003 11:58:38 AM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Better a Bushbot than a Bubbabot!)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Wow, I wonder how that happened. lol

Mystery to me!

La la lala la-la...

-Jay

30 posted on 08/06/2003 12:00:56 PM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Better a Bushbot than a Bubbabot!)
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To: Redcloak
Is there a mirror of the hacked site anywhere? Zone-h (http://www.zone-h.org/ ) doesn't seem to have it.

Hopefully some visitor to the hacked site will submit it to Zone-H in the future...

-Jay

31 posted on 08/06/2003 12:02:13 PM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Better a Bushbot than a Bubbabot!)
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To: TERMINATTOR
The question is quite appropriate... it's his answer that could sink ships... and he's the ship, not me.
32 posted on 08/06/2003 12:43:29 PM PDT by sdk7x7 (AMERICA, LET'S ROLL!)
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To: logician2u
There are a lot of inaccuracies in that article. Lott refutes them on his site: http://www.johnlott.org/files/GenDisc97_02surveys.html
33 posted on 08/06/2003 4:11:48 PM PDT by MaximWar
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To: MaximWar
Thanks, and welcome.
34 posted on 08/06/2003 9:14:34 PM PDT by logician2u
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