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White without Apology
TooGoodReports ^ | 08/13/03 | Bernard Chapin

Posted on 08/13/2003 6:57:47 AM PDT by bedolido

While doing my weekly shopping at the Jewel-Osco, I overheard a very unusual conversation. It was between two young baggers who were talking about an article one of them had read regarding President Lincoln. Both men happened to be black. One of them informed the other that President Lincoln cared nothing about blacks and was actually a racist. I was stunned. I wanted to interject a million things to their discussion but I didn’t. Instead, I silently watched the checker ring up my order. The incident immediately brought to mind the old commercial from the seventies where tears run down the eye of an Indian brave as he paddles across a river filled with pollutants. I felt like that Indian as I listened to President Lincoln, the man who freed the slaves, badmouthed by a couple of assistants in a grocery store.

This was the same Lincoln who, during a triumphant walk through Richmond, told a group of bowing slaves to get up because the only king they should bow to was Jesus Christ. I wanted to explain to the clerks that men should be judged by the standards of the days in which they live. Some of Lincoln’s opinions may seem outlandish today, but during the 1860’s he was one of the most enlightened men on the continent. By the standards of the nineteenth century, black Americans had no better friend than Abraham Lincoln.

Race is the biggest taboo issue in America today. Almost everyone acknowledges this but acknowledgement does not make our dialogues any smoother. I discovered this for myself the other day after I wrote a column about rap music. It was a favorable elaboration upon one wrote for City-Journal by John McWhorter. Based on my observations of urban youth, I supported McWhorter’s claim that rap music keeps blacks down through its celebration of pointless rebellion, violence, and nihilism. I received many irate responses. One of them turned into a ten email debate with a reader. By the end of the discussion, we knew a great deal about one another and, vicariously, quite a bit about discussing race in America.

Our little dispute could well have been a microcosm of the nation as a whole. It is unfortunate that I, and numerous other Caucasians, do not always emphatically state our views when asked. Yet, there are major hazards to beware of when addressing race. You never know what the reaction of the person you’re speaking to may be and no one wants to get fired over a conversation.

I could tell that the young man at the other end of the server was not used to dealing with white people like me. He only knows whites who defer to him and agree when he says that he has been wronged. He has been conditioned into thinking that all whites will apologize for their ancestry. I, absolutely, and under no circumstance, will ever apologize for my ancestors. In fact, thank G-d for my ancestors! I wish there were more Americans like them.

He began our exchange by telling me that I shouldn’t be writing about rap music at all as I don’t know anything about it. He also believes that there is nothing wrong with it and that it doesn’t harm anyone. I countered by stating that, while it’s true that I don’t know all the names of the famous rappers, I have unfortunately been subjected to a ton of it and know firsthand adolescents who emulate the words and actions of their favorite stars.

The dialogue went downhill from there (if that’s possible). There was practically no common ground between us, yet I think that is how it should be. White Americans, if they honestly responded to the claims of black separatists and black powerites, would hear little with which to agree.

Most Caucasian Americans are hard-working and middle class. There are very few like Bill Gates or Paul Allen. Most of us make a decent wage and are content with it. We oppress no one. No ancestors of mine were in the United States before 1910, but, even if they were, it would be superfluous as I personally have committed no wrongs to anyone. I told the young man that white guilt is one of the most pernicious influences within our society. Although this white guilt has not hurt our economic success, it has made many whites regard themselves as being morally inferior to the rest of the population.

He made the point that “institutional racism” is the reason many blacks “have not made it.” I told him there was no such thing. It is a creation of the university Marxists who have substituted “African-Americans, Hispanics, women and gays” for the word “proletariat.” The entire concept of “oppressed” and “oppression” is merely idiotic Marxist claptrap. It’s a product of juvenile leftists and should be disregarded. Besides, if there were such a thing as institutional racism no blacks would have ever made it. They’re be no Cedric the Entertainer’s, Deion Sanders’, Tiger Woods’ or Halle Berry’s. If there were any truth in the flawed rubric of institutional racism, all the aforementioned successful blacks would have been poor sharecroppers rather than cultural icons.

We, of course, also clashed on affirmative action. He regarded it as a prerequisite for black success. He said, “The Supreme Court finally got it right.” I, on the other hand, think, “The Supreme Court wrote more legislation.” Clearly, affirmative action is one of the reasons blacks have not been more successful since 1970. You can’t put an average student in Cal Tech and expect them to flourish. They fail and the race hustlers could care less how the experience impedes their future development. Even more grievous, is that affirmative action gives racism the imprimatur of the state. A federal stamp of approval compounds its evil.

Towards the end of our exchange, the reader admitted that he felt blacks should not have to work more than one job and do overtime to get ahead in life. Their route should be more direct. He felt long hours were for immigrants and that “we’ve already played that game.” He argued that blacks have put their blood and sweat into this country’s infrastructure and deserve reparation for their effort.

Honestly, I have no respect for this argument whatsoever. The request for reparations could not be less valid. Blacks in America already have the world’s greatest reparation: United States citizenship. Every single one of the reader’s racial cousins in Africa, or anywhere else in the world for that matter, would kill to be in his shoes. They would stow away in a mouse trap just to get here and have an opportunity to be Americans. Most of them fantasize about an existence without murderous kleptomaniac dictators and having children who are free from disease. America is opportunity and blacks are no different from whites in that we all should be forever thankful that we somehow got to these shores.

I discovered that I profited greatly from this reader. Christopher Hitchens, in his fascinating book, Letters to a Young Contrarian, informs us that the great thing about argumentation is that both sides refine and modify their positions which doing it. I hold this to be true and my exchange with the young man is evidence of it.

In this particular argument, I realized something that I never had before. Clearly, it is conservatives like me who care about poor blacks (most, in fact, are middle class) as opposed to the pseudo-liberals. We offer them the best route for advancement. We want to challenge them and make them stronger. We resist the desire to infantilize them. By treating them like adults and inculcating responsibility through achievement, they will prosper just as every other group of Americans have before them.

My opponent, perhaps unconsciously, wants them to stay poor so he can continue to berate America and critique our way of life. Were their lot to suddenly improve, he’d have no positions and no identity.

Before this conversation, I never realized just how much that I am rooting for poor black folks. I want them to be as productive as everyone else and to “make it” in America. I want no less for them than I do for myself. It would please me to no end if all our citizens were grateful for what they have. No white people get anything out of a major percentage of the population being resentful and angry.

Racial harmony can only be achieved if we treat one another as individuals and not as members of fictitious classes. If you want to be oppressed you’ll find a way to be oppressed, and such a condition damages society as a whole. Racism is wrong in any of its manifestations. We will never all get along if we continue to pretend that some of us, due to the melanin content in our skin, are better than others. Period.

To comment on this article or express your opinion directly to the author, you are invited to e-mail Bernard at bchapafl@hotmail.com .


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: apology; oppression; race; victimhood; white; without
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To: wardaddy
That land ownership thing has transferred to car ownership...If you can afford to have your fees tripled...Sure, come on in....Driver's license and registration, please....
141 posted on 08/13/2003 1:31:13 PM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: Non-Sequitur
I hope you are remembering from history class and not from your actually having been there...:-)
142 posted on 08/13/2003 1:33:30 PM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: wardaddy
ROTF LOL!!!
143 posted on 08/13/2003 1:34:07 PM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: wardaddy
I think the social programs would have never occured were it not for the Great Depression....

It is why I say as a moderate...We have to give everyone the basics to take their shot at the dream... If they don't step up, their loss...

Bush I and Hoover never learned a very important lesson.... It is the economy....

I hope this guy gets it right...
144 posted on 08/13/2003 1:37:29 PM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: bedolido
bump fo' later read.
145 posted on 08/13/2003 1:47:31 PM PDT by Jason_b
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To: wardaddy
If his motivation was to free slaves in areas where he had Constitutional authority as military CIC then surely why not free the slaves in "rebellious" areas under Union subjugation?

Where did I claim what Lincoln's motivations were? I merely pointed out what he was legally entitled to do as CIC did not pertain to the Northern states that had slavery, such as Missouri and Maryland.

Why did he issue the EP? To help win the war, of course. So what? It did help, and was a great moral thing to do in its own right. I'm sure that Lincoln's motives were not unalloyed altruism, but to insist that they must be is to make the best the enemy of the good.

The EP was a good thing. It was a righteous thing. That Lincoln did it is the important thing.

146 posted on 08/13/2003 1:54:17 PM PDT by LexBaird (Views seen in this tag are closer than they appear.)
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To: bedolido
By the standards of the nineteenth century, black Americans had no better friend than Abraham Lincoln.

That's a load of garbage if I ever heard one. Lincoln, to his dying day, believed that blacks should be deported back to Africa and to the carribean for and colonization - not exactly the type of thing a "friend" would do.

His anti-slavery politics were also predicated upon the interest of himself and whites, not blacks. As Lincoln stated in his famous Peoria address, he desired to keep slaves out of the territories because he believed that they should be the exclusive domain of white people.

If you want to find a true friend of blacks in the mid 19th century, try Lysander Spooner. Cause beyond him there truly weren't many - even among abolitionist circles.

147 posted on 08/13/2003 1:54:56 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: dwd1; Non-Sequitur
I'm ambivalent about governmental interference in the economy other than tax cuts/repeals and tarriffs/trade.

Many a nation has jettisoned a successful war leader....Churchill is a great example. I hope we don't repeat that.

After my comment earlier about only property owning males voting I did some research about whether or nor freed blacks could vote anywhere in the US prior to 1865. I was only able to find a lengthy article by Houghton-Mifflin which infers that the mullatto class from Planter/Slave unions in cotton state urban areas could. I could not find any other evidence anywhere else. I was also suprised that there were more freed blacks in the South than North at the time. The White and Slave population were growing faster btw yet freed blacks were 9% of the total US black population and 60% of those resided South and the mullatto class were the best educated...Frederick Douglass notwithstanding. Further, those mullatto classes still form the genesis of many black upper class throughout Southern urban areas....New Orleans and Atlanta in particular.

Maybe NS will know about black voting rights up north in antebellum days and have a link. I was simply curious and had never researched the matter and my comment about property owners voting at the time of our founding made me think about the question.

http://college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/rcah/html/rc_033600_freenegroes.htm
148 posted on 08/13/2003 1:56:54 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: bedolido
We lacked an underclass in this country for the marxists to arganize, so they had to create (by destroying the family)and import (illegals) one.
149 posted on 08/13/2003 1:57:07 PM PDT by johnb838 (Liberalizm and homoizm are cults of death - no life can come from them.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
I do know many union shops in the North refused to hire escaped or freed slaves. They were just as racist as the South is portrayed to have been. They just did a better job at hiding it.

Still Are.
150 posted on 08/13/2003 2:00:18 PM PDT by johnb838 (Liberalizm and homoizm are cults of death - no life can come from them.)
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To: Johnbalaya
>>>Geez, I'm learning more about Lincoln here than i ever did in school....

Welcome to FreeRepublic. I expect you will learn a lot about many topics that you never learned in school.
151 posted on 08/13/2003 2:01:09 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: LexBaird
It was flawed and self serving. That you wish to ascribe glory to that is fine.

Your original logic was one of Constitutional authority (questionable to some) and if so then was not freeing the slaves in Union held areas of the "rebellious" South extraconstitutional.

Was it moral to not free those slaves he could have while to issue a decree freeing those slaves over which he had no control?

The EC has been overhyped. Slavery was ended as a result of the war's conclusion.

No, I don't enjoy sounding like Cornell West...lol
152 posted on 08/13/2003 2:03:43 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
I can not remember exactly where but when slavery is discussed by those outside of this country, there are those who believe that what made it so unjust was that there was no mechanism for emancipation...Romans and several other societies had processes for obtaining one's freedom... In other words, there was hope...

If you want to get rid of the liberal ca-ca, best way is to let people know that there is a method and opportunity to get their shot at the American Dream...
153 posted on 08/13/2003 2:04:24 PM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: billbears
Allegedly, Licoln issued the EP as a "war" measure, to deprive the Confederacy of workers, to promote an insurrection and possible slaughter in the South, and maybe thought that the South would believe he legally had the power to do so, and return to the fold.

One major problem. He had no legal authority to do so. The Confederacy had seceded, just as the colonies had seceded from Britain in 1776, and as had 9 of the several states from the Articles of Confederation & Perpetual Union. Even if Lincoln did have some legality to issue the EP as a "war" measure, the Supreme Court had previously ruled that the owners of seized property must be renumerated. Lastly, even the Constitution prevents the taking of property by the federal government, and Lincoln wrote a letter to his law-partner Herndon that his actions were unconstitutional.

154 posted on 08/13/2003 2:06:59 PM PDT by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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To: wardaddy
According to this website as many as 8 Northern states allowed free blacks to vote by 1860. Whether that included national elections as opposed to state and local elections isn't clear. In the companion book to Burns' "Civil War" it says that only four states did - Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Massachusetts.
155 posted on 08/13/2003 2:07:17 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: HIDEK6
Good one!
156 posted on 08/13/2003 2:11:01 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Mean spirited liberals suck!)
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To: GOPcapitalist
Lincoln, to his dying day, believed that blacks should be deported back to Africa and to the carribean for and colonization - not exactly the type of thing a "friend" would do.

Funny you should mention that. Two days before his "dying day" he gave his last public address where he called for voting rights for blacks. A confederate guy in the audience named Booth was so outraged by that thought that he made the "dying day" happen.

As to the Peoria address, why is it that you guys always forget the punchline that called for the end of slavery? Don't they publish that in the Lost Cause talking points?

PS. Show me one instance where Lincoln called for "deportation". He surely supported voluntary colonization as a way to avoid the problem of race relations that we are still facing 150 years later, but he never called for anyone to be "deported." He knew very well that freedom would not automatically bring equality. Was he wrong?

157 posted on 08/13/2003 2:12:12 PM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: dwd1
Britain compensated slaveowners when they abolished in the 1830s(?). I don't think that ever got much traction over here. Hotheaded Cavaliers versus taciturn and resolute Roundheads more or less....Southerners and Northerners even today often disagree and that crosses color lines too....unless allied against a third party.

...somethings are just gonna happen.
158 posted on 08/13/2003 2:14:13 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Non-Sequitur
Thanks...I knew you would know.
159 posted on 08/13/2003 2:14:47 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
If his motivation was to free slaves in areas where he had Constitutional authority as military CIC then surely why not free the slaves in "rebellious" areas under Union subjugation?

I know I have posted this to -you personally- before.

Lincoln's war power only extended to areas in rebellion. Being military CIC per se didn't give him the power. Slavery was clearly protected in the Constitution. The rebels cluelessly liabled themselves to the president's war power when their iunsurection took the nature of armed revolt that could not be handled by the usual courts and marshalls.

Lincoln vetoed in 1864 the Wade Davis bill --because-- he thought its provision of making slave ownership a federal crime was unconstitutional.

Had you read the Conkling letter I posted earlier today, you'd have seen Lincoln's rationale for issuing the EP. But I suppose you just skipped over it.

Walt

160 posted on 08/13/2003 2:15:27 PM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Virtue is the uncontested prize.)
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