Ex-spy fingers Russians on WMD (Russians helped Iraq hide WMD)("must read")

Washington Times ^ | Aug 21, 2003 | Ion Mihai Pacepa

[FairOpinion]

On March 20, Russian PresidentVladimir Putin denounced the U.S.-led "aggression" against Iraq as "unwarranted" and "unjustifiable." Three days later, Pravda said that an anonymous Russian "military expert" was predicting that the United States would fabricate finding Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov immediately started plying the idea abroad, and it has taken hold around the world ever since.

[Tailgunner Joe]

bttt

[C210N]

All chemical weapons were to be immediately burned or buried deep at sea ...

In the news, for a few days prior to action in Iraq, were reports of a few suspicious ships just meandering around the worlds oceans. The reports said the ships were going from port to port, but were illegally not responding to regular contacts. I don't recall the reasons for the suspicions, but I do recall the speculation that these ships contained Saddam's WMDs.

[Libertarianize the GOP]

ping

[truthandlife]

BUMP

[ChewedGum]

This is very interesting!

Gum

[RusIvan]

As a former Romanian spy chief who used to take orders from the Soviet KGB, it is perfectly obvious to me that Russia is behind the evanescence of Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. ===

Soviet bloc? "Romanian spy chief who took order from KGB"? Definetely false. Romanian Chaushesku was autonomous very much time.

Others just usual speculations on theme of Soviet Union. Nothing new but old allergations.

[Matchett-PI]

Thanks for posting this! It is definately one of the pieces of the puzzle as to why Saddam's "trading partners" didn't want us to go into Iraq. It's all going to come out eventually.

America's enemies (within and without) thought they had it made. They never banked on someone like GWB being elected here. Hahaha

[RusIvan]

So, there is hope for them, but we can't trust them. ==

Trust takes time. But it take education too. If you read that kind of biased article then you will never know and always will be suspicious.

This article beneath ctitisism. Just one piece fo propaganda against.. Soviet Union:)))..

Just asnwer to yourself this question. Why Russia will need few buckets of Saddam chemicals if she voluntary destroy now 40000(!) TONNS(!) of lot more dangerous soviet chemical weapons?

[RusIvan]

It is worth remembering that Andrei Sakharov, the father of the Soviet hydrogen bomb, chose to live in a Soviet gulag instead of continuing to develop the power of death. ===

LOL:)))))))))))))))..

Saharov never lived in any gulags. He was under home arrest once in town Gorky. But it happened long after he ended his work on atomic weaponry.

You see?

[Spruce]

Three mystery ships are tracked over suspected 'weapons' cargo

[Porterville]

Man, if I were president I would kick Saddam's butt and Afganistan's.... Oh, Bush already did that...

[RusIvan]

Found two more "brilliant" pieces:))).

Primakov was in Baghdad from December until a couple of days before the war, along with a team of Russian military experts led by two of Russia's topnotch "retired"generals,Vladislav Achalov, a former deputy defense minister, and Igor Maltsev, a former air defense chief of staff. ===

Primakov went Bagdad as private person. He was once the prime minister of Russia during Eltsin presidency. But he is nothing during Putin's.
Those 2 generals was SOVIET generals not Russia's. Both participants of coup in 1991 was discharged from army.
Author conviniently ommited such a details. Why? The impression will be different. Right?

Even Igor Kurchatov, the KGB academician who headed the Soviet nuclear program from 1943 until his death in 1960, ==

There wasn't such thing as "KGB academician". It was Academy of Science of USSR. Saharov and Kurchatov was member of it. I recall many western scientists too. Like Hils Bor for example. I'm not sure but Albert Einstain was honorable member too.

It is amusing to analyse such an article. Very laughable:)).

[Gritty]

From the article, it is easy to see the real fruits of the months of delay. These fruits have not accrued to us!

[wayoverontheright]

Primakov went Bagdad as private person. He was once the prime minister of Russia during Eltsin presidency. But he is nothing during Putin's.

So, is it not possible that Primakov still had the contacts and access to the network in the old Soviet scientific community to be able to "sell" to Iraq what it wanted? The need to have an exit strategy for the WMD would still be there.

[FairOpinion]

"I do recall the speculation that these ships contained Saddam's WMDs. "

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And we never heard what really happened to them.

And now we have this FBI warning about the coast line...

2+2=?

[FairOpinion]

Surely you know better than that.

That whole Ceausescu "independence" was a ruse to the West. He was still taking orders from the Soviet Union.

[FairOpinion]

"Primakov went Bagdad as private person"

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Sure. Ex-Soviet generals just had this strong urge to go vacation in Iraq, just before the US invasion.

Would you like to buy some land and bridges?

[FairOpinion]

It is well known fact, that Russia trained Saddam's intelligence and quite possibly provided them with bio and chemical weapons.

It is quite plausible that Russia wanted to hide and destroy Saddam's weapons for two reasons: one to make the US look bad, taking away the main reason for the invasion, and so the WMD can't be traced back to Russia.

Pacepa's description and speculation is most likely right on the money.

[Monti Cello]

Others just usual speculations on theme of Soviet Union. Nothing new but old allergations.

Yes, nothing but the normal 'allergations' on the 'theme of Soviet Union': murder, tyranny, and deception as the operating tactics, and of course, eventual defeat to the forces of freedom.

[RusIvan]

So, is it not possible that Primakov still had the contacts and access to the network in the old Soviet scientific community to be able to "sell" to Iraq what it wanted? ==

Primakov never was scientist himself. He was spy then later politician. He was first as I know former spy who went to politics accually.
So he knows probably some of scientists from Academy of Sciences personally but he is outsider. And scientists doesn't sell nothing.
If who can sell something sensitive then the captains of particular industry. But I very doubt. It mean the betrayal of Mother Russia I still beleive that it is very difficult thing to do for such a people.