On WFLA Tampa now - Terri Schiavo review is denied

WFLA | August 22, 2003 | WFLA

[I still care]

Just heard on Tampa Radio news WFLA Terry Schiavo's review has been denied - the original judge will now set a time to pull Terri's feedings and start starving her...

God help a country where this is countenanced.

[sweetliberty]

"what is wrong with humanely letting someone go in her state?"

We're not talking about taking someone off a ventilator here and letting them stop breathing and die naturally. I had to make that choice on behalf of my grandmother. We're talking about starving someone to death, which, as I understand it, is a slow and agonizing death. I think there's a big difference.

[Theodore R.]

Can Jeb Bush do anything about this? Nobody seems to know. What about the "cruel and unusual punishment" of the Eighth Amendment?

[Theodore R.]

Shutting off a life-support system is one thing, but a feeding tube is quite another. It's too bad the American people cannot distinguish the difference -- a result of "dumbed-down" education and a vacuum of morality in this nation.

[Theodore R.]

Ultimately, the people of FL have some responsibility because they elected this ultraliberal Supreme Court, probably on the basis of party affiliation or name recognition.

[Theodore R.]

Quickly, we need to call out the "compassion police" on this. Where is Hillary? Schumer? Leahy? Others who have compassion for those in need? I suspect that they are nowhere to be seen, right?

[Theodore R.]

It is noteworthy that Michael Schiavo never divorced Terri? Why? I don't know for sure, but I suspect that the answer is a two-word term: LIFE INSURANCE.

[sweetliberty]

They have even cut her off from the regular visits of her priest and she is being denied communion. Again the doing of her husband.

[sweetliberty]

"If (big if, of course) this is indeed an attempted murder, with the help of the state authority, who exactly would prosecute it?"

What you are seeing is the birth pangs of the totalitarian state.

[ican'tbelieveit]

ONCE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! WHEN I POSTED THAT I DID NOT KNOW THE HISTORY... all I saw was people bashing a husband. Can you people not follow posts, or you are so busy wanting to lash out at people you don't bother?

[sweetliberty]

"Isn't this against the Hipocratic (sp?) oath?"

The Hippocratic oath was nullified with the performance of the first legalized abortion.

[Brandon]

Terri is not in an acute care facility (e.g. hospital). She is not critically ill.

You don't have to be in an acute care facility to be critically ill and beyond hope of recovery. Hospices exist for such situations, and some people choose to use them. Other people choose to spend their last days at home, in familiar surroudnings. This patient is not able to decide for herself, and apparently left no written instructions to guide her physicians. That leaves the decision up to her husband as to what setting is most appropriate.

This is not a case for pulling the plug. This woman has never had any form of rehab afforded her when $750,000 was awarded for this specific purpose. This woman has been neglected by her spouse.

Unless you have examined her yourself, you do not know any of these things. There are many newspaper accounts of the case. Apparently the physicians caring for her disagree with you, and also apparently, her parents have failed to persuade the court system that she is being ill-served by her husband's choice of physicians.

[sweetliberty]

I wasn't lashing out. I was responding to your first post and hadn't read your subsequent ones. I'm sorry if you interpreted that as an attack. It was not meant that way.

[Brandon]

Shutting off a life-support system is one thing, but a feeding tube is quite another.

No, actually, it is not. Ventilator support and tube feedings are both examples life sustaining treatment. They fall in the same category, and they can each be legally and ethically withheld under the appropriate circumstances.

[Brandon]

It is noteworthy that Michael Schiavo never divorced Terri? Why? I don't know for sure, but I suspect that the answer is a two-word term: LIFE INSURANCE.

I have emphasized the fact that you don't know the answer to this question. Neither do I. It is possible that there is some base motive. It is also possible that he is sincere in his belief that his wife is never going to recover, and that keeping her body alive is a cruelty. But a lot of people on these threads seem to be focusing on the first alternative.

[ican'tbelieveit]

I know starvation is a terrible way to die, but again, sometimes that is a choice that has to be made for some people. I am not saying that is the right choice in this situation. But what do you think they do with babies sometimes? It has to be decided if keeping someone on any type of life sustaining equipment, whether it be a ventilator or feeding tube, is in the best interest of that person, long term.

And again, if this situation does result in this poor woman passing on, and she knows her Savior, she will be better off. Her husband will answer to God in that situation on Judgement Day.

[sweetliberty]

"He is a sick POS and so is that judge for allowing this."

Would this be one of the same judges that tried to help Al Gore steal the White House? Seems like the same mentality.

[sweetliberty]

"Is there anything Jeb can do"

I wondered that too, if he has the legal authority to do anything that is.

[PleaseNoMore]

My father died in a similar way. It was absolutely one of the most heart wrenching situations you can imagine. My father had laryngeal cancer and the tumor grew to massive proportions blocking his ability to eat or drink. I can remember my father desperately trying to get some Ensure down and it just coming back up. He could not have a feeding tube inserted because the procedure itself was a risk to him. A feeding tube would not have saved his life but it would have lessened some of his suffering.

[PleaseNoMore]

Because she can't comunicate her own wishes she should be "murdered"? She is very much alive. Have you not seen that she is responsive to others? That she TRIES to communicate with her family? That she recognizes someone she knows?

If you "care" about Terri then you would demand that she receive the therapy that she needs that MAY improve her situation.

[sweetliberty]

"But don't you think if the majority of people surrounding this case were as indignant as you, then the situation would be different?"

The majority of people oppose abortion. The majority of people believe in God and that our laws and treatment of others should reflect that. The majority of people do not believe in preference of one race over another. The majority of people do not believe we should continue to allow our country to be overrun with illegal aliens whom we provide for. The majority of people in Alabama support Justice Moore on the issue of the 10 Commandments. Does it change anything? Are we on the verge of outlawing abortion? Are we putting control of our borders as a top priority? Does the will of the people of Alabama have any impact on the judicial tyranny of the federal courts? Are we doing anything to build people of character and merit in a truly color-blind society where everyone has an equal chance? Are all sanctions about to be lifted so that we may resume honoring God in all areas of American life as we did for over 200 years?

The answer on all counts is "no". This is what happens when liberalism is run amok. There is no right or wrong. Everything is relative. Life has no value beyond its productivity on behalf of the almighty state. Gone are the days where certain things are common practice because they are right. Individual freedom is a thing of the past and every decision against decency, common sense, compassion, integrity and dignity is another victory for totalitarianism.....Bill and Hillary's dream come true.