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IN RARE MOVE?! He's been criticizing Bush since Day 1! Afghanistan... Iraq... Economy... geez.

-sdk

Blame the layout of the IHT for this poor cut/paste job. Click the link above for a bit more readable copy, if you wish. I think the title tells it all though.

Auuugh! my eyes! FORMATTING!

Ze IHT copy editor, 'e make ze joke, yes?

Former President Bill Clinton, seizing the Democratic stage, offered one of his strongest denunciations of President George W. Bush since leaving office as he tried to rally Democrats here around candidates who have yet to stir the excitement he did in 1992.

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Speaking without notes or a prepared text on Saturday night, Clinton invoked the circumstances of the 2000 presidential election as he argued that the Bush administration had squandered the domestic and foreign policy gains he had made in his eight years in office.

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"That election was not a mandate for radical change, but that is what we got," Clinton said, adding, "We went from surplus to deficit, from job gain to job loss, from a reduction in poverty to an increase in poverty, from a reduction in people without health insurance to an increase of people without health insurance."

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The former president said that Bush had wasted an opportunity to unite the country and enhance its international standing in the days after the Sept. 11 attacks.

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"Instead of uniting the world, we alienated it," he said. "And instead of uniting America, we divided it by trying to push it too far to the right."

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The setting for Clinton's rare public speech on the American political scene was the annual steak fry held by this state's senior senator, Tom Harkin. It was attended by seven of the nine Democratic presidential candidates.

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Six of them also spoke to the crowd on Saturday night, but Clinton's speech, even though it was arguably not one of his strongest performances, almost entirely obscured their words and served instead to underscore the contrast between the political skills of Clinton and those of this year's crop of candidates.

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Indeed, two of the best-known Democrats, Senator John Edwards of North Carolina and Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, left the stage about 15 minutes before Clinton arrived, citing scheduling conflicts.

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Clinton seemed aware of the danger that his presence might overshadow the 2004 contenders, or highlight their shortcomings, and he went to great lengths to dispute the notion that the Democrats were putting up a weak field this year.

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He went out of his way to praise eight of the nine candidates.

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The Reverend Al Sharpton of New York, who was not here, was the only one not to receive any mention from Clinton.

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"I like this field - I get tired of people saying the field can't beat the incumbent president," said Clinton, adding: "When somebody tells you the people who are running for president aren't big, they just mean they aren't famous yet."

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Clinton used his own economic situation to mock Bush's tax cut.

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Clinton said he might, as a very wealthy former president living in Chappaqua, New York, be paying more taxes than just about anyone else in America. "I get my tax cut, and they are going to take 300,000 poor children and kick them out of after-school programs," he said.

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The candidates and the host, Harkin, fell over one another to praise Clinton and dispel any idea that Clinton, who was impeached but not removed from office, was not welcome in Democratic circles.

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Harkin even praised Clinton for bringing rain to this drought-afflicted region, though the rain stopped the moment Clinton took the stage. And the audience was dotted with signs reading, "Welcome back, Bill," and "We Miss You."

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Edwards, who has patterned his campaign after Clinton's 1992 race, even appropriating some of Clinton's language, said, "I am tired of Democrats walking away from Bill Clinton and Al Gore, who led the greatest period of economic growth in our country's history."

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And Kerry, speaking before Clinton, took notice of the former president's propensity for lengthy speeches at public gatherings, a propensity that Kerry shares. "I saw in the program that Bill Clinton is going to speak for about 20 minutes," he said. "And in that 20 minutes, if that's what you believe it is, he's going to deliver more common sense and more sense of the country than George Bush has in two and a half years."

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Clinton, in fact, spoke for 22 minutes. His voice was hoarse and strained, and his speech wandered at times, as his crowd grew restless.

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Wearing blue jeans and cowboy boots, and appearing thinner then he had at any point in the White House, Clinton took the stage to the sound of his 1992 campaign theme song, "Don't Stop (Thinking about Tomorrow)" by Fleetwood Mac. And when he was done, Clinton did as Clinton always does at these kinds of events: He stayed behind to shake every hand he could find, lingering for nearly an hour as the Iowa sky turned dark behind him.

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The New York Times

Wow, he did all that in one paragraph...

"...the Bush administration had squandered the domestic and foreign policy gains he had made in his eight years in office."

The "foreign policy gains" he made? What, like giving the North Koreans several billion dollars and allowing them to restart their nuclear weapons program? Like not accepting Osama bin Laden when Somalia offered him to us? Like not getting us out of Bosnia after the conflict was over. Etc, etc, etc....

MY EYES!

I sure wish Bush would respond by mentioning things like the OKC/Iraq connection/coverup and the selling of American nuclear secrets to China, but that'll happen when pigs fly.

From the Hurricane Isabel thread ....

Perhaps the most stupid woman on the planet called Drudge tonight. She thinks the storm is a conspiracy by Bush to help the economy that he can't get started. She says that it won't hit, but people are spending all kinds of money getting supplies.

907 posted on 09/15/2003 12:03 AM EDT by doug from upland (Why did DemocRATS allow a perjuring rapist to remain in the Oval Office?)

I didn't read all that garbage you posted (and it wasn't because of the formatting but because it's such hogwash) ..... did x42 also mention Isabel?

I wonder what pile of sand this woman had her head in when Floyd was going up the East coast while x42 was president and he was declaring disaster areas where the storm hadn't even made landfall yet.

Hey Bill .. Why ya losing so much weight??? .. Could it be depression ?????

Oh and Bill .. YOU ARE A LOSER!!

Speaking without notes or a prepared text on Saturday night

In other words (they giddily gasp), HE'S SO SMART!!!

Why is it I don't remember any former president blasting his predecessor the way this man has been doing (not to mention getting Jimmah Cahtah to join in now)?

It's as if all the rules have been suspended for BJ. (I guess I should have expected that though, judging by his past behavior.)

Truly sickening.

..... the Bush administration had squandered the domestic and foreign policy gains he had made in his eight years in office.

Ummmm......Does he mean The Clinton Bubble (that burst in March 2000) and firing 2 million dollar cruise missiles in order to hit ten dollar tents after al Qaeda attacked the USS Cole?

Former President Bill Clinton, seizing the Democratic stage, offered one of his strongest denunciations of President George W. Bush since leaving office as he tried to rally Democrats here around candidates who have yet to stir the excitement he did in 1992.

.

Speaking without notes or a prepared text on Saturday night, Clinton invoked the circumstances of the 2000 presidential election as he argued that the Bush administration had squandered the domestic and foreign policy gains he had made in his eight years in office.

.

"That election was not a mandate for radical change, but that is what we got," Clinton said, adding, "We went from surplus to deficit, from job gain to job loss, from a reduction in poverty to an increase in poverty, from a reduction in people without health insurance to an increase of people without health insurance."

.

The former president said that Bush had wasted an opportunity to unite the country and enhance its international standing in the days after the Sept. 11 attacks.

.

"Instead of uniting the world, we alienated it," he said. "And instead of uniting America, we divided it by trying to push it too far to the right."

.

The setting for Clinton's rare public speech on the American political scene was the annual steak fry held by this state's senior senator, Tom Harkin. It was attended by seven of the nine Democratic presidential candidates.

.

Six of them also spoke to the crowd on Saturday night, but Clinton's speech, even though it was arguably not one of his strongest performances, almost entirely obscured their words and served instead to underscore the contrast between the political skills of Clinton and those of this year's crop of candidates.

.

Indeed, two of the best-known Democrats, Senator John Edwards of North Carolina and Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, left the stage about 15 minutes before Clinton arrived, citing scheduling conflicts.

.

Clinton seemed aware of the danger that his presence might overshadow the 2004 contenders, or highlight their shortcomings, and he went to great lengths to dispute the notion that the Democrats were putting up a weak field this year.

.

He went out of his way to praise eight of the nine candidates.

.

The Reverend Al Sharpton of New York, who was not here, was the only one not to receive any mention from Clinton.

.

"I like this field - I get tired of people saying the field can't beat the incumbent president," said Clinton, adding: "When somebody tells you the people who are running for president aren't big, they just mean they aren't famous yet."

.

Clinton used his own economic situation to mock Bush's tax cut.

.

Clinton said he might, as a very wealthy former president living in Chappaqua, New York, be paying more taxes than just about anyone else in America. "I get my tax cut, and they are going to take 300,000 poor children and kick them out of after-school programs," he said.

.

The candidates and the host, Harkin, fell over one another to praise Clinton and dispel any idea that Clinton, who was impeached but not removed from office, was not welcome in Democratic circles.

.

Harkin even praised Clinton for bringing rain to this drought-afflicted region, though the rain stopped the moment Clinton took the stage. And the audience was dotted with signs reading, "Welcome back, Bill," and "We Miss You."

.

Edwards, who has patterned his campaign after Clinton's 1992 race, even appropriating some of Clinton's language, said, "I am tired of Democrats walking away from Bill Clinton and Al Gore, who led the greatest period of economic growth in our country's history."

.

And Kerry, speaking before Clinton, took notice of the former president's propensity for lengthy speeches at public gatherings, a propensity that Kerry shares. "I saw in the program that Bill Clinton is going to speak for about 20 minutes," he said. "And in that 20 minutes, if that's what you believe it is, he's going to deliver more common sense and more sense of the country than George Bush has in two and a half years."

.

Clinton, in fact, spoke for 22 minutes. His voice was hoarse and strained, and his speech wandered at times, as his crowd grew restless.

.

Wearing blue jeans and cowboy boots, and appearing thinner then he had at any point in the White House, Clinton took the stage to the sound of his 1992 campaign theme song, "Don't Stop (Thinking about Tomorrow)" by Fleetwood Mac. And when he was done, Clinton did as Clinton always does at these kinds of events: He stayed behind to shake every hand he could find, lingering for nearly an hour as the Iowa sky turned dark behind him.

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The New York Times

What ever happened to the tradition where former presidents never criticized the president?

read later bump

Would somebody please wipe the drool off of Adam Nagourney's face?

Lord, that is one embarrassing job of "professional" journalism...

I pray that my religion is right....and there is a day of reconing! How this man can go on and on without ever having to account to anyone for his dispicable actions is far beyond my comprehension.

Rare Mover

-The Clinton Files--

Liars-- and Sleaze, Incorporated... ( my files on the clintons and friends )

-Some old strange clinton "stuff"--

-The Atomic Genie- what we know about North Korea's Nuclear program--

Madison Society - Slick Willy
... THE CLINTON TIME LINE. The Etherzone provides, in one location, all the events
of the Clinton Ongoing Corruption from 1977 through 2000. Read more. ...

CLINTON'S ROGUES GALLERY:
... And that gets to my second chart, Mr. Speaker, which is the time line.....Up until
1993, Mr. Speaker, under Democrats and Republican Presidents alike, there ...

The Cost of Life (Clinton/Gore Sellout of Security for Campaign Contributions) **FR EXCLUSIVE** #2

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CIA Officials Reveal What Went Wrong – Clinton to Blame

Is Bill Clinton Responsible for September 11?

Catastrophic intelligence Failure - Clinton's Bin Laden GATE

-Murder, Inc.--

-The number of "suicides" for people linked to this and other Clinton-related cases--

-ATTENTION BLOODHOUNDS--

-Women in the Clinton Era: Abuse,Intimidation and Smears--

-SEND JUANITA BROADDRICK VIDEO TO THOSE WHO WANT CLINTON TO SPEAK--

Nothing phony about response to Hillary at fete

Hillary's delegates spit on and taunt Police Honor Guard at her Convention

-Sen. Hillary Clinton--NewsMax.com Hot Topics--

Boo Hillary! The Video***

-All Hillary, all the time...--

1. The Clinton's are pro-abortion. Our children deserve better.
2. The Clinton's are against school vouchers. Our children deserve better.
3. The Clinton's are against our ballistic missile defense system. Our children deserve to be protected from rogue North Korean nuclear missiles.
4. The Clinton's want Americans to be subjected to the International Criminal Court, which has no Bill of Rights, no right to see your accuser, no jury, and no appeal. Our citizens deserve better.
5. The Clinton's want the Kyoto Treaty on Global Warming to become law. That treaty will eventually lead to the prohibition of gasoline-powered automobiles. We deserve better than to return to the pre-industrial age.