Womb 'smile' fires abortion row

The Age Online ^ | September 14, 2003 | By Rebecca Urban, James Meikle

[al_c]

I remember reading an article on that other party's web forum (sorry, can't mention that name around here anymore). Anyway ... the guy was in pieces over an "anti-choice" ad he saw on TV. The ad was from the makers of the 3D sono equipment and refered to the baby as it should rightfully be ... a baby. The guy that wrote the post in that forum was just mad as hell over it. Quite funny and sad at the same time.

[Mamzelle]

Pictures are good friends of the prolifers. From the beginning, the abortion partisans have squawked loudest when graphic pictorial evidence was presented.

The alternative pregnancy volunteer groups are trying to put together enough money for a network of the fabulous new ultrasound machines--which show the baby 3D instead of the more widely used ultrasounds. Once a mother sees, she seldom aborts. NY tried to shut down such a clinic.

[Tailgunner Joe]

The irony is that the baby killers keep beating their drum about "religious zealots" pushing our beliefs down their throats while it is SCIENCE that is slowly defeating them!

[MHGinTN]

Perhaps the following can send them into apoplexy ...

[Charlie OK]

abortionists are now having women who have abortions write little "sorry notes" to their dead babies. It was here on FR a while back. They have moved past dehumanization, and capitalizing on the fact that these "women" dont care that they are killing a real live baby, just as long as it doesnt cramp their style.

[MHGinTN]

It won't surprise you that because I present ONLY the science regarding the unborn and argue that science is all on the side of the preborn being individual, alive, fellow human beings, I'm regularly attacked in threads as a religious fanatic and my computer is constantly under assault by 'someone'. It certainly appears that those who've chosen to defend the indefensible fill with hate toward any who would speak out on behalf of the unborn.

[ArGee]

"We're looking at recognisable human beings."

If that's the criterion then why is Helen Thomas still alive?

"I think they are clutching at straws," he said. "No doubt it will be picked up by those groups that use anything and everything to stop terminations but ignore the fact that women have a right to choice."

Unless it's the woman in the ultrasound picture. She has no choice whatsoever.

The hypocracy of the pro-abortion crowd can turn your stomach.

Shalom.

[Tailgunner Joe]

Science and religion are in agreement that life begins at conception. The only ones who disagree are simply constructing a fantasy to rationalize away their responsiblity for the murder of innocent defenseless babies.

[ArGee]

Correct. Right now, "minds and hearts" are governed by sympathy for the pregnant women

I disagree. Right now, "minds and hearts" are governed by a desire to ignore the possibility of sexual sin. Men who force their pregnant toys to have abortions aren't concerned about those toys at all, just about the possible child support payments that might last 18 years or more. When your purpose in having sex is having fun, there's no room for having a baby.

If women could just pop the baby out and put it in an artificial womb, with less pain than abortion, we would still have abortions.

The pro-aborts only care about themselves.

Shalom.

[Skooz]

The technology, known as a 3-D/4-D ultrasound, also reveals limb movements at eight weeks, leaping, turning and jumping at 11 to 12 weeks, intricate finger movements at 15 weeks and yawning at 20 weeks.

That cannot be true. Inanimate objects don't yawn.

[fortaydoos]

You have to realize these people have bought into the evil lie, hook line and sinker.

We must fight against abortion at all costs!

[scouse]

I Love GE's motto: "We bring good things to life".

[redhead]

"I can't link but GE has a remarkable video demo available.I think it is such a wonderful sight."

Here you go.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Wait until he (she?) gets the hiccups!

[miltonim]

Perhaps the following can send them into apoplexy ...




hehehehe

[adaven]

Here's my baby girl @ 31 weeks. We have the video. I counted 3 smiles, and one flipping-the-bird!

To anyone expecting, I say go for the more expensive 3D/4D ultrasounds. WELL worth the money!!

[HIDEK6]

Prof. Campbell merely posits what I'd say was an interesting enough question

You pose a question.

You posit an assumption.

[MHGinTN]

One of the most difficult things for a human being to do is admit to being wrong, especially when it is the death of tens-of-millions of children at the heart of the error. An interesting twist to the 'liberal' character is to 'pass the buck', shift blame, deny culpability, and continue the wrongheaded direction in order to never admit wrong doing.

In a godless sort of way, liberals raise theirselves to the level of diety and refuse to admit anything that would chip away at their self-aggrandizement, including changing brehavior when shown clearly that they are supporting the serialized killing of alive, unborn fellow human beings.

Now, these same people have become comfortable with admitting the children killed in the wombs are real, alive fellow human beings, but these ghouls assert a woman must have the right to hire such killings! Put another way, the mantra they've spit at us for so long--'a woman's right to choose'--has been proven a wrongheaded assertion that was based on the thing being killed as not yet a human being, so now they must adopt a ghoulish stance to continue defending their previous wrongheadedness! It is insane ... and quite deadly for unborn little ones! And the democrat party is solidly working to keep this evil at the heart of that party, as if the killing is a gift to women in order to get them to vote blindly for the democrat candidate.

Our nation may not survive this evil onslaught since it has taken this horrific turn now affirming the notion that the child is real, really alive, and a woman must have the right to kill it at will. Cannibalizing the embryonic age of newly conceived fellow humans is the next step along thedenegration road the democrats and some pubbies support. No compromise on that extreme will be tolerated or entertained by the democrat ghouls.

[Tailgunner Joe]

Most pro-choice women I speak to know that abortion is wrong, but they want the right to do it anyway. They have abandoned morality completely.

They always say, "you don't know what a woman goes through. You don't know how hard it is." If it's not a human life then why should they struggle with the decision at all? If abortion isn't wrong and nothing to be ashamed of, then why even hesitate?

The fact is, they know it's wrong but they simply won't admit it. They have to stick by their lie.

[chimera]

Most pro-choice women I speak to know that abortion is wrong, but they want the right to do it anyway. They have abandoned morality completely.

The pro-abortion argument has undergone a variety of modifications over the years, which is generally an indicator of a failed position. First was the "it's-not-alive" gambit, but of course science and logic put the lie to that one. Then came the dehumanization tack, the "yes-it's-alive-but-not-human" canard. Logic blows that one away (if it's not human, what is it, an alien?). The most recent grasp at straws was the non-personhood obfuscation, which anyone with half a brain can see as simply an exercise in newspeak. Now most pro-aborts I talk to kind of (shamefully) admit that that what they are advocating is simply that women have the right to kill an innocent person and have no moral imperative to justify such a decision, and no one else has the moral authority to question it. How that is different from the Nazi position of being justified in exterminating a whole people simply because someone says they can do so goes unanswered.