McCLINTOCK IS NO BUCHANAN!

September 17, 2003 | Joe Armendariz

[Writesider]

The always brilliant Hugh Hewitt has finally outdone himself in his pre-emptive war against the California gubernatorial candidacy of Tom McClintock. Let us forget, for just a moment, the ridiculous comparison made in his latest column, between Tom McClintock and Pat Buchanan. But he also seems to want to equate the re-election campaign of President George Herbert Walker Bush, circa 1992, with the (R)nold Inc. Gubernatorial campaign taking place today.

[Maelstrom]

His major accomplishment has been an increasingly important vote "NAY" in an increasingly socialist California.

Perhaps you'd feel better if he had "accomplished" something "big" by putting total control over the state's gasoline in government hands? Some other form of additional government power?

[Maelstrom]

Your calandar should read out until March unless I'm very much mistaken...

[Maelstrom]

Schwarzenegger makes a better Democrat than Republican.

It's a real problem that seems to be ignored when calls for conservatives to choose the liberal candidate are made.

[Maelstrom]

They haven't been mute.

They support Arnold...He gives them 2 liberals on both the Republican and Democrat ballot. They can't lose.

[Maelstrom]

Then why the hell are all these Republican liberals ripping away from conservatives?

[Maelstrom]

Only insofar as conservatives are always a problem for liberals.

[strela]

His major accomplishment has been an increasingly important vote "NAY" in an increasingly socialist California.

You can train a chimpanzee to perform the same action every time it gets a banana too. Doesn't make me want to run out and vote for a chimpanzee as my elected representative.

Perhaps you'd feel better if he had "accomplished" something "big" by putting total control over the state's gasoline in government hands?

I'd feel better if California government had not been overrun with liberals in the first place, something that Tom McClintock has been demonstrably ineffective in preventing or even slowing down. That is the logical result of being an irrelevant, marginalized voice in the wilderness and eschewing compromise.

Many historical accounts make it clear that Captain Smith stood defiantly on the bridge of the Titanic, gave pretty speeches, looked nice in his uniform, and uncompromisingly wished with all his heart that the ship wouldn't sink. But it still did.

As a professional career politician, McClintock has had 25 years of opportunities at every level of California government to make his home state a better place to live, but has failed to do so. He is incapable of building consensus, he is provably ineffective in his chosen field of endeavor, and he has demonstrated no competency whatever in any capacity outside of the cossetted world of politics. The time has come to dump him overboard and welcome aboard Captain Schwarzenegger to the helm of the RMS California.

[Maelstrom]

"I'd feel better if California government had not been overrun with liberals in the first place, something that
Tom McClintock has been demonstrably ineffective in preventing or even slowing down. "

See now, we might be able to agree upon that except for the fact that you go right ahead and support the election of another liberal, this one on the Republican ticket.

This paragraph and the rest of your statement lead me to believe that you're uninformed. McClintock has a number of conservative efforts at which he's succeeded...despite the place being overrun with liberals.

[strela]

See now, we might be able to agree upon that except for the fact that you go right ahead and support the election of another liberal, this one on the Republican ticket.

Schwarzenegger is not a liberal. You are misinformed.

This paragraph and the rest of your statement lead me to believe that you're uninformed.

This paragraph and all of your posts in this thread lead me to believe that you are either receiving money from Bustamante's campaign or are a troll.

McClintock has a number of conservative efforts at which he's succeeded...despite the place being overrun with liberals.

Can you name any? And, you don't get the brass ring for "efforts" - its "results" that count.

[Dog Gone]

Schwarzenegger makes a better Democrat than Republican.

Perhaps, but Bustamante is far to his left.

It's a choice of either being pragmatic or ideological. Enough will choose to be the latter, and the worst possible candidate will win, Governor Bustamante.

[wita]

Hey, I agree and I don't even live in CA, and am I ever glad.

[Maelstrom]

There haven't been any solid arguments separating Schwarzenegger from liberals.

There are arguments that place him firmly in the path of liberalism.

Now, he might not be as far to the left as Bustamante, but he's almost as far left as Davis. He makes a better Democrat than Republican after you analyze his positions, his statements, his friends and his past.

McClintock has accomplished more for conservatism than any other Republican in California since Reagan.

[Maelstrom]

That's another problem...explain the pragmatism of electing a liberal into California office.

Right now, as I said in another thread, it's akin to celebrating your quarterback who won the game, but scored most of his team's points for the opposing team.

How is that pragmatism?

[Dog Gone]

It's a question of which liberal you want to see elected. If it makes no difference to you, then by all means, vote for McClintock.

[Maelstrom]

So long as California is choosing between liberals, none of them can expect conservative votes.

Stop asking, it ain't gunna happen.

The lesson learned in the election of Bush and Pete Wilson stands. Elect a liberal, expect liberalism. You can't fool conservatives again.

[miloklancy]

I don't think McClintock is the right guy for the job, but saying he is not Pat Buchanan is a great compliment as far as I'm concerned.

[Dog Gone]

So long as California is choosing between liberals, none of them can expect conservative votes.

That's an untrue statement. There are plenty of conservatives, many right here at this forum, who are going to vote for Schwarzenegger.

[BillyBoy]

>> McCLINTOCK IS NO BUCHANAN! Nope. Try Ross Perot. <<

McClintock is running around saying he's a non-politican "fiscally responcible" buisnessman who will "fight the political insiders and the special interests" and bring back buisnesseses so everyone can be taxed to death?

Funny, that what Perot stood for and it certianly sounds like the OTHER guy running.

[Maelstrom]

...And they can't offer a good reason why.

They can't offer a good reason why they'll vote for Arnold because they can't. The only reason is that they're republican first and conservative second (those that really are conservative) and Arnold is on the Republican ticket, not the Democratic ticket.

No sympathy for Californians is deserved, even when they have a conservative on the ballot, even the conservatives vote for more liberals.

[strela]

There haven't been any solid arguments separating Schwarzenegger from liberals.

The "R" next to his name is your first clue.

There are arguments that place him firmly in the path of liberalism.

There are arguments that say we never landed on the moon and that the black helicopters are going to hover over all our homes and kill us in our beds next Tuesday.

Now, he might not be as far to the left as Bustamante, but he's almost as far left as Davis. He makes a better Democrat than Republican after you analyze his positions, his statements, his friends and his past.

I have analyzed his positions, statements, friends, and past. And here's what I found (Arnold's words in quotation marks, which you can find for yourself at http://www.joinarnold.com/en/agenda/arnoldsviews.php#C1 ):

"I am firmly opposed to raising taxes." Liberals are not opposed even one itty-bitty bit to raising taxes.

"I will repeal the (car) tax immediately upon taking office." Liberals would not repeal the car tax immediately upon taking office.

"I will fight any attempt to roll back (Proposition 13)." "I will vigorously oppose any proposal to change Proposition 13." Liberals would consign Proposition 13 to the ash heap of history.

"I will renegotiate the energy contracts and take other steps to give California a reliable and affordable energy system." Liberals think the current energy contracts are just fine.

"I will push for laws curbing frivolous lawsuits ..." Liberals have never heard of a "frivolous" lawsuit.

"My goal is to shift more power to local communities and give them more say over their budgets and get more money into the classroom." Liberals are for central control of schools.

"I believe (the death penalty) is a necessary and effective deterrent to capital crimes." Liberals do not support the death penalty.

"(I) support the Three Strikes law." Liberals do not support the Three Strikes law.

"California must be free of federal fuel additive mandates ..." Liberals think ever-burgeoning federal mandates in general and federal fuel additive mandates in particular are just fine.

"I do not support partial birth abortion." Liberals rarely have a problem with partial birth abortion.

"I am in favor of parental notification." Liberals are generally not in favor of parental notification.

"I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment." Liberals would like to forget the Second Amendment.

McClintock has accomplished more for conservatism than any other Republican in California since Reagan.

A statement long on bluster and short on specifics.

I've asked you this question twice, and this will be the last time. Dodging the question again will simply get you put on my personal ignore list, as I have no time to deal with people who are being intentionally obtuse, paid advocates for liberals like Bustamante, or trolls.

WHAT.

SPECIFICALLY.

HAS.

TOM.

MCCLINTOCK.

DONE.

FOR.

CONSERVATISM.

IN.

CALIFORNIA?