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Cruz’s Plan to Divide and Conquer the GOP
self | September 18, 2003 | DiamondDon1

Posted on 09/18/2003 2:12:56 PM PDT by DiamondDon1

The following is but a portion of Cruz Bustamante's plan:

“McClintock” phone calls to Republicans

The phone calls that have been received by Republicans throughout the State bashing Arnold were not put out by the McClintock campaign. The end message of the pre-recorded phone call says that it was paid for by the California Republican Assembly Independent Expenditure Committee. The attack ad against Arnold Schwarzenegger was a poorly conceived attempt by the CRA to “help” Tom McClintock. Even my own wife thought she would not want to vote for McClintock because of “his” attack on Arnold.

What is important here is some “Republicans” denounced the “attack” ads against Arnold when they occurred. But somehow the issue didn’t die. And even now some suggest that we should not vote for McClintock because of ads someone else put out. This issue is a great one for Cruz Bustamante because both McClintock and Arnold are hurt here, and I believe that it is minions of Cruz keeping the animosity alive.

Indian Tribes “contribute” to McClintock

Why Indian Tribes contribute money to McClintock’s gubernatorial campaign and not to his campaign for controller? The Tribes contributed to McClintock’s campaign for two reasons. The first reason is that McClintock is against regulations and could actually help the Tribes, regulation wise. The second reason is that the Tribes really want Cruz, so they contribute to hurt Arnold. But how are the Tribes theoretically contributing? They are planning on using “independent” expenditures on ads “promoting” McClintock. Note what is happening here. Cruz and his campaign have learned well. They saw ill-conceived attempt by the CRA go awry and its aftermath. And now they are going to “promote” McClintock. Watch the ads when and if they do arrive and see if McClintock is simply put in a good light, or will the ads be in line with the Cruz campaign, and be horrible attack ads on Arnold, thereby hurting both McClintock and Arnold. Expect the latter to occur.

Women Against Arnold

Is it coincidence that suddenly women anywhere near camera crews are denouncing Arnold because he is against women? There were many premieres of his various movies where these same women were absent. Why did they not “protest” previously? One of the leaders of one of these organizations talked to John & Ken on KFI640 in Los Angeles a few days back. She asserted that Arnold has a terrible reputation with women and treated women badly. However, when asked by John & Ken what her actual complaints were she could not come up with even one. The closest she came up with was Arnold’s character in his movies sometimes treat women badly. Note that when women are interviewed they will say how Arnold treats women badly, but they will not be specific about any actual events, how convenient. And of course, these women just happen to be part of the N.O.W. which just happens to be liberal. Go figure. And does the Cruz campaign have a hand in the sudden revelation that Arnold treats women badly? I think they do.

Cruz Attack on Arnold as a Racist

When Cruz attacked Arnold based on his support of Prop 187, this was an attempt to hurt Arnold while concealing the fact that it is Cruz, not Arnold that is the racist. The facts surrounding Cruz as a racist are well known, but will be repeated here for newcomers to the discussion.

Two years ago, when addressing a group of 300 Blacks, Cruz let the “N” word fly when referring to Blacks. Immediately after the event he apologized and said he got “tongue tied” and did not mean it. After two days the matter, though disturbing on how someone in this day and age could let that word slip, was dropped by the media. In a recent debate a young Black asked the question “Since two years ago you mentioned the “N” word, if you become Governor, would you consider appointing a black to fill the Lieutenant Governor position so as to mend fences between Blacks and Hispanics?” Cruz said that first of all he “never” used the “N” word, and that people thought they heard it, so he apologized for it, even though he never said it. Cruz took his entire allotted time for his response denying he ever used the “N” word. When the young Black asked Cruz once again if he would appoint a Black to be Lieutenant Governor, Cruz said “Well I could appoint a Black or I could appoint a Latino, or a Gay or Lesbian, or an Arab. I would just appoint the most qualified individual fill the vacancy”. Note the lack of Whites and Asians is Cruz’s answer. This was not a slip that he “forgot” Whites and Asians.

In college at Fresco State, Cruz belonged to MEChA a known racist group that believes “for the race everything, for outside of the race nothing”. No matter how many times Cruz has tried to explain how the group helps student achieve, one cannot get past the fact that the group believes that “they” have the right to “Aztlan” which comprises major portion of the southwest United States. The key here is not what Cruz did in college in the 1970’s that is irrelevant. But the fact that he refuses 25 years later to denounce MEChA as racist begs one to wonder if he in he still believes in the rights of the “race” to have “Aztlan”. This was also not a slip, in that he has been asked repeatedly to denounce MEChA and what they stand for and he has refused to not only denounce them but to say anything bad about them at all.

As for Arnold, two Black body builders accused Arnold of using the “N” word, more than 25 years ago. This is not only irrelevant if he did it at all, but is almost comical in timing. Why now after so many years did these two suddenly figure that Arnold alleged use of the “N” word was offensive? To understand this better, one has to know that the use of the “N” word among Blacks is common and that in the locker room or on the competition circuit slang is thrown around like the sweat that athletes generate. If Arnold did say something in the competition setting in the 1970’s, it cannot be compared to a non-Black saying the same thing today. Note that between Blacks the term is somehow still considered acceptable “jargon”. Was Cruz somehow associated with these Blacks suddenly feeling “wronged”? He probably was, and how ironic that Cruz would bring up the racial issue.

The McClintock Can’t Win Mantra

While McClintock’s numbers are in the low to high teens depending on the poll, it is clear that the numbers have risen in the campaign. Commentators like Hugh Hewitt, John & Ken on KFI, have pushed that McClintock is a great man but he cannot win so we would be silly to vote for him. This mantra began early and continues with the election almost three weeks away. Hugh has taken the stand the McClintock absentee voters are “bleeding” votes from Arnold. This is all good “three weeks before the game quarterbacking”, but all the plans of war instantly change once the first shot is fired. If Arnold does not get enough votes on Election Day he loses. “What if” scenarios of an Election that is close, with the only if we had these votes or those votes are irrelevant. A guaranteed method for Arnold to win is that he should go out campaigning and convince enough voters to vote for him.

The Cruz campaign wants to keep the fight going for as long as possible to bring down both McClintock and Arnold. But if as some have wished, McClintock drops out watch what happens next. I will not speculate as to what charge or charges will be leveled at Arnold, but expect the worst from Cruz as you will certainly get that or worse.

Since I drifted into the “what if” in describing the “requirement” for McClintock to give up, what happens if Arnold has to drop out? If Arnold has to drop out to take care of a loved one, has a medical problem (i.e. Rudy Giuliani), he gets fed up with the process, has some charge thrown at him (you can count on that and it will happen a few days before the Election), what do we do then assuming McClintock has dropped out? The answer is we lose.

Second “what if” scenario. What if the full 9th Circuit does not overturn the three judge panel and the U.S. Supreme Court does not hear the case? Then Election Day is in March and a lot can happen between now and March. In March, would it have been a good idea for McClintock to drop out in September? I think not.

The Arnold the RINO Mantra

Certainly the RINO mantra is leveled at conservatives not wanting to give in on social issues. I am one of those conservatives. However, I know what is better and what is worse, and Arnold would be better than Cruz period. However, McClintock is better than Arnold, so I would prefer McClintock assuming he is in the race. Since I am not voting absentee, I can wait until Election Day to punch either McClintock or Arnold.

The Cruz minions have inflamed the RINO arguments with their constant attacks regarding the incredibly obvious. We already know where Arnold stands on the social issues, but the Cruz lobby is making everything worse, count on it.

Cruz and his minions have been and are continuing to add fuel to the fire between McClintock and Arnold supporters. And right now, the fire burns so brightly that we cannot see what Cruz is doing to the GOP.

DD


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; bustamante; california; cruz; mcclintock; recall; schwarzenegger
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1 posted on 09/18/2003 2:12:57 PM PDT by DiamondDon1
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To: Rabid Republican; kellynla; FairOpinion; DoughtyOne; Pubbie; Ernest_at_the_Beach
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2 posted on 09/18/2003 2:15:09 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: DiamondDon1
McClintock!

..but Arnold over Busta-MEChA.
3 posted on 09/18/2003 2:17:54 PM PDT by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: VU4G10
Ditto

DD

4 posted on 09/18/2003 2:24:15 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: DiamondDon1
When is McClintock going to get the message, or if he doesn't, when will his supporters come back to reality?

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"While McClintock supporters held firm, the majority of the convention attendees rallied behind Schwarzenegger and what they saw as a winning, moderate platform.

A straw poll was taken and although such polls tend to be unreliable, the results were still startling: 82% for Schwarzenegger.

On top of that, by Sunday, various groups were publicly endorsing Schwarzenegger, including the Hispanic 100, who actually asked McClintock to step down.

And perhaps most telling of all, in a memo distributed the same day, 33 out of 34 county chairs backed Schwarzenegger.

There seems to be a real hunger among Republicans not only to win, but also to try and repair the damage done to the state by one-party Democratic rule, and Schwarzenegger’s candidacy provides them with a glimmer of hope.

California Republican Party Convention

5 posted on 09/18/2003 2:25:17 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: DiamondDon1
And another excerpt from that article: California Republican Party Convention

" Last weekend’s convention conveyed a lot of energy and optimism, which would be a real shame to squander by continuing to split the vote.

McClintock supporters often argue that Schwarzenegger backers are ''giving up their principles.'' But isn’t it better to institute some of your political principles, rather than none?

And what of the fate of California, a state that clearly needs a change of direction.

If McClintock could see past his own candidacy for a moment, he would opt out for the sake of the party and the state. Despite the circulating rumors about backroom deals leading to him eventually dropping out of the race, he showed little inclination for doing so at the convention. He certainly will not find himself very popular within the party, should the Republicans blow it in the recall election. "

6 posted on 09/18/2003 2:29:11 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
What "some" principles are being advanced? I have seen nothing in what Arnold has proposed that would even be considered conservative.

Get the businesses back so they can continue to finance our welfare state. Impeaching Clinton was wrong. His financial advisor proposing higher taxes. He seems to me to be liberal in everything I have heard specific. He gave a good canned speech at the convention, but it rang about as true as a Clinton speech in 1992.

I'm glad I am not in CA. to have to make this decision. I was going to say not having to watch my party destroy itself, but by pushing RINOs over real conservatives they are doing the same here in TN.
7 posted on 09/18/2003 2:39:59 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: FairOpinion
Fair:

Take a breath! I am not promoting a fight here, I am inviting a discussion of what is truly happening to us. If you note, I did not slam Arnold in any way here.

The enemy is Cruz...not Tom or Arnold. The sooner we all come to grips, we will understand before it is too late.

Is it your position in the "discussion" that Cruz will automatically lose if Tom drops out? Can you actually know that three weeks before Election Day assuming it is not put off until March?

Please, think before you react and then speak your mind.

Regards

DD

8 posted on 09/18/2003 2:40:34 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: DiamondDon1
He's been singing the same song since Arnold announced on the Tonight Show... don't expect him to stop now.
9 posted on 09/18/2003 2:44:26 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: DiamondDon1
All I did is post some quotes from an article, which gives a report about the Republican convention, where it was FACT, that:

" A straw poll was taken and although such polls tend to be unreliable, the results were still startling: 82% for Schwarzenegger. "

"And perhaps most telling of all, in a memo distributed the same day, 33 out of 34 county chairs backed Schwarzenegger."

10 posted on 09/18/2003 2:44:36 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: DiamondDon1
Ummmm....Oh forget it!

Screw California!

HOOSIERS FOR THE SUCCESSION OF CALIFORNIA!!

11 posted on 09/18/2003 2:44:38 PM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: Ingtar
Hello Ingtar:

While I am on the same side of the aisle, this is not about Arnold versus Tom, it is about what Cruz is doing to us all.

I know that FairOpinion fired the first shot, but we must let the cannon balls fall where they may and forget about it.

The key to this election is what Cruz is doing to all of us, plain and simple.

What I was hoping for in bringing this discussion to light, is that others would figure out other places where Cruz is dividing and conquering. I did not want to inflame a civil war...

DD

12 posted on 09/18/2003 2:45:53 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: DiamondDon1
"Is it your position in the "discussion" that Cruz will automatically lose if Tom drops out? Can you actually know that three weeks before Election Day assuming it is not put off until March?

Please, think before you react and then speak your mind."

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82% of the delegates at the Republican Convention seem to think that Arnold is our best shot at getting rid of Bustamante, and Arnold has a much better chance at beating Bustamante, if Tom drops out. I agree with this 82% amjority.

Do facts offend you?

13 posted on 09/18/2003 2:47:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: DiamondDon1
It doesn't make a lot of sense to run 2 candidates in a general election. That seems pretty basic. The Democrats of course understood that and made sure they only had one with name recognition.
Arnold donated another $10 million to his own campaign today. It's obvious he is serious about this and he seems to be a good leader. I would love to have him here in Arizona over the corrupt Democrat we've had this past year.
And she was elected by a split vote...Two conservative independents taking just enough votes away from the Republican to give her a victory.
14 posted on 09/18/2003 2:48:59 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: DiamondDon1
If this is about Cruz, then we should focus on defeating Cruz.

Since Tom has zero chance of beating Cruz, and Arnold has a good chance, then the only way to defeat Cruz, is to stop the division of the Republican party and support the Republican candidate, who can win.

My opinion is not the "way out" opinion, as I quoted, 82% of the delegates and 33 of the 34 county chairs agree.

Division is only good and giving a chance to Davis and Bustamante to hang onto the power and push CA into the abyss.

The McClintock supporters are the ones who can't seem to see through the Davis/Bustamante strategy. You talk about the fact that they indeed try to divide the Republican party, yet you continue to promote this very division.

15 posted on 09/18/2003 2:52:31 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Okay Fair...nice facts...

Sorry to accuse you of starting a riot.

At this point we all know the RINO / UNELECTABLE issues, so what we need to do is look for subversion by Cruz (it is happening...) and defeat it.

As wrong as this may sound, I believe we should pound the pavement for OUR guys until one week prior to the election. Then we decide what to do. That gives us a chance to see what has happened as a result of the debate, and lets the smoke clear from any new revelations about Tom or Arnold.

I know Hugh's idea of absentee voters and such weighs heavily around here, but it simply does not matter since there nothing we can do about it. If Tom stays in, even if McClintock supporters switch to Arnold, nothing happens with regard to the adsentee votes. It would be nice to know the outcome of the election to know if Arnold should have stepped aside or Tom should leave, and while apparent that it should be Tom, we don't know that now...

Any thoughts on Cruz's subversion of the process?

DD

16 posted on 09/18/2003 2:57:33 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: DiamondDon1
Dividing and conquering the Right is not a difficult task.


17 posted on 09/18/2003 3:01:45 PM PDT by rdb3 (Which is more powerful: The story or the warrior?)
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To: DiamondDon1
So how do YOU propose defeating Cruz?

Please stick to facts and figures, not dreams, like the toothfairy is suddenly going to make Democrats vote for Tom.
18 posted on 09/18/2003 3:06:10 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: DiamondDon1; FairOpinion
Excellent post DD1. You put a lot of time, thought and energy into it. The point that FairOpinion brought up merits some attention. Arnold got tremendous support at the convention of our Republican Leaders. Perhaps our leaders aren't leading us where we want to go. The Tom and Arnold split is symptomatic of what is going on at a national level within the Republican party and being orchestrated by Parsky in California. It is also being replayed in AZ right now. And the Dems are taking complete advantage of it - flaming the fires at every opportunity.

Tom isn't the bad guy and Arnold isn't the bad guy. Tom represents the old school G.O.P. and Arnold represents the new school. Is it time for a third party to be developed? Perhaps the "Centrist" party?
19 posted on 09/18/2003 3:08:41 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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20 posted on 09/18/2003 3:08:41 PM PDT by EggsAckley (........I LOVE pushing the abuse button.........)
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