Skip to comments.Cruz’s Plan to Divide and Conquer the GOP
Posted on 09/18/2003 2:12:56 PM PDT by DiamondDon1
The following is but a portion of Cruz Bustamante's plan:
McClintock phone calls to Republicans
The phone calls that have been received by Republicans throughout the State bashing Arnold were not put out by the McClintock campaign. The end message of the pre-recorded phone call says that it was paid for by the California Republican Assembly Independent Expenditure Committee. The attack ad against Arnold Schwarzenegger was a poorly conceived attempt by the CRA to help Tom McClintock. Even my own wife thought she would not want to vote for McClintock because of his attack on Arnold.
What is important here is some Republicans denounced the attack ads against Arnold when they occurred. But somehow the issue didnt die. And even now some suggest that we should not vote for McClintock because of ads someone else put out. This issue is a great one for Cruz Bustamante because both McClintock and Arnold are hurt here, and I believe that it is minions of Cruz keeping the animosity alive.
Indian Tribes contribute to McClintock
Why Indian Tribes contribute money to McClintocks gubernatorial campaign and not to his campaign for controller? The Tribes contributed to McClintocks campaign for two reasons. The first reason is that McClintock is against regulations and could actually help the Tribes, regulation wise. The second reason is that the Tribes really want Cruz, so they contribute to hurt Arnold. But how are the Tribes theoretically contributing? They are planning on using independent expenditures on ads promoting McClintock. Note what is happening here. Cruz and his campaign have learned well. They saw ill-conceived attempt by the CRA go awry and its aftermath. And now they are going to promote McClintock. Watch the ads when and if they do arrive and see if McClintock is simply put in a good light, or will the ads be in line with the Cruz campaign, and be horrible attack ads on Arnold, thereby hurting both McClintock and Arnold. Expect the latter to occur.
Women Against Arnold
Is it coincidence that suddenly women anywhere near camera crews are denouncing Arnold because he is against women? There were many premieres of his various movies where these same women were absent. Why did they not protest previously? One of the leaders of one of these organizations talked to John & Ken on KFI640 in Los Angeles a few days back. She asserted that Arnold has a terrible reputation with women and treated women badly. However, when asked by John & Ken what her actual complaints were she could not come up with even one. The closest she came up with was Arnolds character in his movies sometimes treat women badly. Note that when women are interviewed they will say how Arnold treats women badly, but they will not be specific about any actual events, how convenient. And of course, these women just happen to be part of the N.O.W. which just happens to be liberal. Go figure. And does the Cruz campaign have a hand in the sudden revelation that Arnold treats women badly? I think they do.
Cruz Attack on Arnold as a Racist
When Cruz attacked Arnold based on his support of Prop 187, this was an attempt to hurt Arnold while concealing the fact that it is Cruz, not Arnold that is the racist. The facts surrounding Cruz as a racist are well known, but will be repeated here for newcomers to the discussion.
Two years ago, when addressing a group of 300 Blacks, Cruz let the N word fly when referring to Blacks. Immediately after the event he apologized and said he got tongue tied and did not mean it. After two days the matter, though disturbing on how someone in this day and age could let that word slip, was dropped by the media. In a recent debate a young Black asked the question Since two years ago you mentioned the N word, if you become Governor, would you consider appointing a black to fill the Lieutenant Governor position so as to mend fences between Blacks and Hispanics? Cruz said that first of all he never used the N word, and that people thought they heard it, so he apologized for it, even though he never said it. Cruz took his entire allotted time for his response denying he ever used the N word. When the young Black asked Cruz once again if he would appoint a Black to be Lieutenant Governor, Cruz said Well I could appoint a Black or I could appoint a Latino, or a Gay or Lesbian, or an Arab. I would just appoint the most qualified individual fill the vacancy. Note the lack of Whites and Asians is Cruzs answer. This was not a slip that he forgot Whites and Asians.
In college at Fresco State, Cruz belonged to MEChA a known racist group that believes for the race everything, for outside of the race nothing. No matter how many times Cruz has tried to explain how the group helps student achieve, one cannot get past the fact that the group believes that they have the right to Aztlan which comprises major portion of the southwest United States. The key here is not what Cruz did in college in the 1970s that is irrelevant. But the fact that he refuses 25 years later to denounce MEChA as racist begs one to wonder if he in he still believes in the rights of the race to have Aztlan. This was also not a slip, in that he has been asked repeatedly to denounce MEChA and what they stand for and he has refused to not only denounce them but to say anything bad about them at all.
As for Arnold, two Black body builders accused Arnold of using the N word, more than 25 years ago. This is not only irrelevant if he did it at all, but is almost comical in timing. Why now after so many years did these two suddenly figure that Arnold alleged use of the N word was offensive? To understand this better, one has to know that the use of the N word among Blacks is common and that in the locker room or on the competition circuit slang is thrown around like the sweat that athletes generate. If Arnold did say something in the competition setting in the 1970s, it cannot be compared to a non-Black saying the same thing today. Note that between Blacks the term is somehow still considered acceptable jargon. Was Cruz somehow associated with these Blacks suddenly feeling wronged? He probably was, and how ironic that Cruz would bring up the racial issue.
The McClintock Cant Win Mantra
While McClintocks numbers are in the low to high teens depending on the poll, it is clear that the numbers have risen in the campaign. Commentators like Hugh Hewitt, John & Ken on KFI, have pushed that McClintock is a great man but he cannot win so we would be silly to vote for him. This mantra began early and continues with the election almost three weeks away. Hugh has taken the stand the McClintock absentee voters are bleeding votes from Arnold. This is all good three weeks before the game quarterbacking, but all the plans of war instantly change once the first shot is fired. If Arnold does not get enough votes on Election Day he loses. What if scenarios of an Election that is close, with the only if we had these votes or those votes are irrelevant. A guaranteed method for Arnold to win is that he should go out campaigning and convince enough voters to vote for him.
The Cruz campaign wants to keep the fight going for as long as possible to bring down both McClintock and Arnold. But if as some have wished, McClintock drops out watch what happens next. I will not speculate as to what charge or charges will be leveled at Arnold, but expect the worst from Cruz as you will certainly get that or worse.
Since I drifted into the what if in describing the requirement for McClintock to give up, what happens if Arnold has to drop out? If Arnold has to drop out to take care of a loved one, has a medical problem (i.e. Rudy Giuliani), he gets fed up with the process, has some charge thrown at him (you can count on that and it will happen a few days before the Election), what do we do then assuming McClintock has dropped out? The answer is we lose.
Second what if scenario. What if the full 9th Circuit does not overturn the three judge panel and the U.S. Supreme Court does not hear the case? Then Election Day is in March and a lot can happen between now and March. In March, would it have been a good idea for McClintock to drop out in September? I think not.
The Arnold the RINO Mantra
Certainly the RINO mantra is leveled at conservatives not wanting to give in on social issues. I am one of those conservatives. However, I know what is better and what is worse, and Arnold would be better than Cruz period. However, McClintock is better than Arnold, so I would prefer McClintock assuming he is in the race. Since I am not voting absentee, I can wait until Election Day to punch either McClintock or Arnold.
The Cruz minions have inflamed the RINO arguments with their constant attacks regarding the incredibly obvious. We already know where Arnold stands on the social issues, but the Cruz lobby is making everything worse, count on it.
Cruz and his minions have been and are continuing to add fuel to the fire between McClintock and Arnold supporters. And right now, the fire burns so brightly that we cannot see what Cruz is doing to the GOP.
"While McClintock supporters held firm, the majority of the convention attendees rallied behind Schwarzenegger and what they saw as a winning, moderate platform.
A straw poll was taken and although such polls tend to be unreliable, the results were still startling: 82% for Schwarzenegger.
On top of that, by Sunday, various groups were publicly endorsing Schwarzenegger, including the Hispanic 100, who actually asked McClintock to step down.
And perhaps most telling of all, in a memo distributed the same day, 33 out of 34 county chairs backed Schwarzenegger.
There seems to be a real hunger among Republicans not only to win, but also to try and repair the damage done to the state by one-party Democratic rule, and Schwarzeneggers candidacy provides them with a glimmer of hope.
" Last weekends convention conveyed a lot of energy and optimism, which would be a real shame to squander by continuing to split the vote.
McClintock supporters often argue that Schwarzenegger backers are ''giving up their principles.'' But isnt it better to institute some of your political principles, rather than none?
And what of the fate of California, a state that clearly needs a change of direction.
If McClintock could see past his own candidacy for a moment, he would opt out for the sake of the party and the state. Despite the circulating rumors about backroom deals leading to him eventually dropping out of the race, he showed little inclination for doing so at the convention. He certainly will not find himself very popular within the party, should the Republicans blow it in the recall election. "
Take a breath! I am not promoting a fight here, I am inviting a discussion of what is truly happening to us. If you note, I did not slam Arnold in any way here.
The enemy is Cruz...not Tom or Arnold. The sooner we all come to grips, we will understand before it is too late.
Is it your position in the "discussion" that Cruz will automatically lose if Tom drops out? Can you actually know that three weeks before Election Day assuming it is not put off until March?
Please, think before you react and then speak your mind.
HOOSIERS FOR THE SUCCESSION OF CALIFORNIA!!
While I am on the same side of the aisle, this is not about Arnold versus Tom, it is about what Cruz is doing to us all.
I know that FairOpinion fired the first shot, but we must let the cannon balls fall where they may and forget about it.
The key to this election is what Cruz is doing to all of us, plain and simple.
What I was hoping for in bringing this discussion to light, is that others would figure out other places where Cruz is dividing and conquering. I did not want to inflame a civil war...
Sorry to accuse you of starting a riot.
At this point we all know the RINO / UNELECTABLE issues, so what we need to do is look for subversion by Cruz (it is happening...) and defeat it.
As wrong as this may sound, I believe we should pound the pavement for OUR guys until one week prior to the election. Then we decide what to do. That gives us a chance to see what has happened as a result of the debate, and lets the smoke clear from any new revelations about Tom or Arnold.
I know Hugh's idea of absentee voters and such weighs heavily around here, but it simply does not matter since there nothing we can do about it. If Tom stays in, even if McClintock supporters switch to Arnold, nothing happens with regard to the adsentee votes. It would be nice to know the outcome of the election to know if Arnold should have stepped aside or Tom should leave, and while apparent that it should be Tom, we don't know that now...
Any thoughts on Cruz's subversion of the process?
Sure, most of the union vote will turn out for him, as will the die hard liberal constituencies. But he's not nearly as cunning & effective as Davis, and unlike the GOP the democratic faithful are demoralized & I suspect their turnout will be low.
The last time Davis was elected with just a 5 pt advantage, and conditions are far worse for the demos now.
Apparently we aren't over the infighting yet...all right here goes...
82% of the delegates at the Republican Convention seem to think that Arnold is our best shot at getting rid of Bustamante, and Arnold has a much better chance at beating Bustamante, if Tom drops out. I agree with this 82% amjority.
It is nice that the upper echelon crowd was in favor of Arnold...at the YES on RECALL rally the "grass-roots" crowd felt differently. Once again, nice facts...
Do facts offend you?
Hmmmm...do facts offend me....no. Now do we discuss Cruz or do we discuss the UNELECTABLE issue some more???
Talk to you soon!!!
Right now we have the luxury of running two horses in the same race. Assuming we don't kill each other (big if) we can pick whichever horse is ahead one week out (allowing for all the dust to clear with the debate).
I am not advocating two horses in the end, only one...the one that can win...
If this is about Cruz, then we should focus on defeating Cruz.
Okay...let's get started...
Since Tom has zero chance of beating Cruz, and Arnold has a good chance, then the only way to defeat Cruz, is to stop the division of the Republican party and support the Republican candidate, who can win.
As soon as we got started...wham the brakes!!! Tom can win, it may be 20:1 but he can. You zero in on keeping the divide going, keeping the UNELECTABLE issue alive. I don't see the point in it. Tom probably going on until the end, and we have to make a decision before we vote...will it be Tom or Arnold. I was trying to get some kind of concensus as to what to do when that point is reached.
My opinion is not the "way out" opinion, as I quoted, 82% of the delegates and 33 of the 34 county chairs agree.
I don't recall saying your point was way out in fact most of the "pundits" would agree with you, and I said nice facts...
Division is only good and giving a chance to Davis and Bustamante to hang onto the power and push CA into the abyss.
When you have a chance to run two horses in a race, and you can wait until the last furlong to decide which one you want, you can ride the winner to victory. I don't get the getting out early idea, the adsentees are a done deal, and if we have just one horse at the end we win.
The McClintock supporters are the ones who can't seem to see through the Davis/Bustamante strategy. You talk about the fact that they indeed try to divide the Republican party, yet you continue to promote this very division.
I am trying to stop the infighting and focus on the enemy, that is the Democrats. Did you read the article I wrote? Everywhere along the way, Cruz has a hand in this, attacking both our candidates.
The luxury?! You're kidding, right? How is having the vote split between two GOP candidates (400,000 absentee ballots have already been recieved) while the dims unite behind one candidate a "luxury"?
Tom has a right to stay in until the end. But what if bustamante is elected by a smaller margin than Arnold defeats Tom? Suppose the absentee ballots do make the difference. Would not the obvious conclusion be that Tom was directly responsible for the election of cruz?
Considering he has no chance in this race, I think so.
Thank you for that...same thing here...different horses... different day...
I was not aware of this. I lost whatever respect I still had left for Tom. THIS is really over the top.
That was on Sept 1st, since absentee ballots, which comprise 25% of the total, have been going in since Sept. 8th.
Absentees are irrelevant, that is a done deal. The race will be decided on Election Day. Blasting Tom because you want Arnold to win is exactly the problem that we are having here. If the Arnold supporters alienate the McClintock supporters, Cruz wins. If you do not believe that then you don't need us anyhow. If you need us, we will be there, but don't push...because we push back.
Arnold is the definite frontrunner, so why is McClintock still in the race?
Thank you for the observation...as far as Tom goes he is in the race to win.
Sometimes I feel that way too...
I can't even get the bullets not to fly in a "coming together" type post...
Probably...but I know the DNC and DU are at work here (and I really mean right here...)
I respect the man for his conservative views. But he's making a fool of himself, not to mention handing the election to a racist Mexican by splitting the GOP vote.
I'll lose all respect for the man if and when he becomes ultimately responsible for the election of cruz.
Until then he's just another conservative fighting the good fight. HOWEVER...knowing when to drop out is his responsibility. If he drops out now I think a victory for Arnold (and California conservatives) is a given. If he stays in long enough to hand the election to the racist Mexican, he's lower than pond scum.
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