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Two killed in Alaska bear attack
KTVB ^ | 10/07/03 | Staff Writer

Posted on 10/07/2003 11:06:38 AM PDT by bedolido

KING SALMON, Alaska - Two people were killed in an apparent bear attack near Kaflia Bay in Katmai National Park on the Alaska Peninsula, Alaska State Troopers said Tuesday.

The bodies were found Monday when a pilot with Andrew Airways arrived to pick up the man and woman and take them to Kodiak, troopers said.

The pilot saw a bear, possibly on top of a body, in the camp and contacted the National Park Service in King Salmon and state troopers in Kodiak.

Park rangers encountered an aggressive bear when they arrived at the campsite and killed it. Investigators then found human remains buried by a bear near the campsite.

The victims, believed to be in their late 30s to early 40s, were from Malibu, Calif. Their identities are being withheld pending notification of relatives.

The remains and the entire campsite were packed out and transported to Kodiak on the Andrew Airways flight.

As the plane was being loaded, another aggressive bear approached and was killed by park rangers and troopers.

The bodies were flown to the state medical examiner’s office for autopsy.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: alaska; attack; banglist; bear; californios; holdmybear; killed; sometimesabeargetsu; sometimesyougetabear; timothytreadwell; wildlife
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1 posted on 10/07/2003 11:06:39 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: Skylight
Investigators then found human remains buried by a bear near the campsite.

The bears buried them?

2 posted on 10/07/2003 11:08:33 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Lijahsbubbe
More like caching them for eating later.
3 posted on 10/07/2003 11:09:15 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Yes. Bears do that.
4 posted on 10/07/2003 11:09:26 AM PDT by Ranger Drew
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To: Ranger Drew
Yuck!
5 posted on 10/07/2003 11:10:07 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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6 posted on 10/07/2003 11:10:09 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: thackney; TheMom
Bears eating people in Alaska ping!!
7 posted on 10/07/2003 11:10:25 AM PDT by Eaker (Amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic.............hmmmmmmmmm ;<)
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To: Skylight
Pictures?
8 posted on 10/07/2003 11:10:33 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Skylight
I wonder if the victims were armed at all. I know I would have been packing if camping in Kodiak Country. And packing something heavy-duty, mind you.
9 posted on 10/07/2003 11:10:36 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Like a dog burying a bone, or a Clinton silencing a critic.
10 posted on 10/07/2003 11:10:45 AM PDT by theDentist (Liberals can sugarcoat sh** all they want. I'm not biting.)
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To: Skylight
The victims, believed to be in their late 30s to early 40s, were from Malibu, Calif.

No further comment.

11 posted on 10/07/2003 11:11:16 AM PDT by Argus ((Ninety-nine and forty-four one-hundredths percent Pure Reactionary))
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To: Skylight


12 posted on 10/07/2003 11:11:16 AM PDT by bedolido (Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
midnight snack
13 posted on 10/07/2003 11:11:34 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Stop thinking about it and do it.)
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To: Ranger Drew
Yes. Bears do that.

Does a bear do that in the woods?

14 posted on 10/07/2003 11:11:39 AM PDT by CheneyChick (www.JoinArnold.com - "Let's Bring Kah-lee-fohr-nya Back")
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To: nuconvert
Gross. Just thinking about it, dee-scusting!
15 posted on 10/07/2003 11:13:47 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Skylight
KING SALMON, Alaska

Kodiak

The above would pretty much keep me as far away from that area as possible. It just screams: BIG BEAR COUNTRY!

16 posted on 10/07/2003 11:14:31 AM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: Skylight
"oh look! a cute little teddy bear!"
"look at him. he's so thin. maybe he's hungry"
"Oh dear, why not give him a piece of candy!"
"great idea! here boy"
"(burp!"
17 posted on 10/07/2003 11:15:00 AM PDT by camle (no fool like a damned fool)
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To: Argus
The victims, believed to be in their late 30s to early 40s, were from Malibu, Calif.

No further comment.

I'm sure they probably watched several of those PBS wildlife specials that tell all about how to behave in bear country. I was raised in bear country. PBS is in the bear hors d'ouevre business.

18 posted on 10/07/2003 11:15:53 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Spruce
Yep most canine family predators do this..including the family dog
19 posted on 10/07/2003 11:16:46 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Spruce
I wonder if the victims were armed at all.

From Malibu? I doubt it.

20 posted on 10/07/2003 11:17:33 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (There's two kinds of people in the world. Those with loaded guns and those that dig.)
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To: CheneyChick
"Does a bear do that in the woods?"

ROTFLMAO

If a bear does that in the woods and nobody hears it, does it matter?

Mo4Bush(who already voted for Arnold!)
21 posted on 10/07/2003 11:18:03 AM PDT by mo4bush
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To: Skylight
Map of Alaska? Their bodies were taken to Kodiak. They were
near Kaflia Bay in Katmai National Park. Is that near enough to Kodiak for Kodiak bears? Them's giant bears.
22 posted on 10/07/2003 11:18:04 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Stop thinking about it and do it.)
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To: Squantos
Fishin' in Alaska ping!
23 posted on 10/07/2003 11:18:07 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (There's two kinds of people in the world. Those with loaded guns and those that dig.)
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To: nuconvert
Aren't Kodiak bears grizzlies? Just named Kodiak for the area they inhabit.
24 posted on 10/07/2003 11:19:34 AM PDT by mo4bush
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To: CheneyChick
Yes. Bears do that.
Does a bear do that in the woods?

if a bear eats in the wood... does this mean those eaten will help the environment by fertilizing the forest? (I know morbid...)

25 posted on 10/07/2003 11:19:58 AM PDT by bedolido (Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
No, they probably weren't armed. Just another couple of democrat-votin', granola-eatin', tree-huggin', I'm-okay, you're-okay, nitwits.

All one can do is simply shake their head. ...and the sad part is...there's an abundance of these idiots.

26 posted on 10/07/2003 11:21:41 AM PDT by Ranger Drew
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To: mo4bush
Check this out. Sounds like you're pretty close
27 posted on 10/07/2003 11:22:32 AM PDT by bedolido (Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.)
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To: Argus
The victims, believed to be in their late 30s to early 40s, were from Malibu, Calif.

Like, cool man. See the groovey looking bear. Let's feed it some tofu and bean sprouts. Then we'll do a couple of doobies and chill out.

28 posted on 10/07/2003 11:22:34 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Skylight
This would never have happened if someone were drilling for oil there.
29 posted on 10/07/2003 11:22:49 AM PDT by keithtoo (Tax Cuts - A robber who doesn't steal from you isn't GIVING you a VCR!!)
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To: Bernard Marx
Bears will eat anything. It is important to never smell like food, Look like food, or be food. Being armed with a very powerful firearm is the only way to prevent becoming food if the bear decides you smell like or appear to be food.
Not to mention bears can get aggressive for no apparent reason(to humans at least). Being armed with a very powerful firearm is the only way to stop an aggresssive bear.
I'm guessing these victims were not armed.
30 posted on 10/07/2003 11:23:09 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: Bernard Marx
>>>PBS is in the bear hors d'ouevre business. <<<

Yep...and being from Malibu I'll bet they were Yugo drivers.

31 posted on 10/07/2003 11:23:21 AM PDT by HardStarboard (Dump Wesley Clark.....he worries me as much as Hillary!)
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To: Spruce
I wonder if the victims were armed at all. I know I would have been packing if camping in Kodiak Country.

They were from California. Guns bad, doncha know?

32 posted on 10/07/2003 11:24:05 AM PDT by KevinB
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To: mo4bush
I don't know. Do grizzlies get to be 10 feet tall and weigh 1500 pounds?
33 posted on 10/07/2003 11:24:09 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Stop thinking about it and do it.)
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To: Skylight
Like I always tell my dog and cat obsessed friends, if your pet was bigger than you, he would eat you. Animals are incapable of Love, what they express to us is pure fear and submission. We misinterpret it as Love.


Just ask Roy Horn.
34 posted on 10/07/2003 11:24:40 AM PDT by apologia_pro_vita_sua
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To: Skylight
How sad.
35 posted on 10/07/2003 11:25:06 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Spruce
I wonder if the victims were armed at all. I know I would have been packing if camping in Kodiak Country. And packing something heavy-duty, mind you.

It would be worthwhile to know whether these people were at all prepared to deal with bears. My guess is they were not armed. If not, they never had a chance, as it's clear the bear was not afraid of people and apparently saw these campers as a food source.

Minimum weapon for this situation would be a .44 Magnum, this combined with some training to hit critical points should the bear become threatening.

36 posted on 10/07/2003 11:25:24 AM PDT by toddst
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To: mo4bush
Here's more on the brown bear/kodiak/grizzle
37 posted on 10/07/2003 11:25:54 AM PDT by bedolido (Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.)
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To: CheneyChick
Only if no one is there to hear it.
38 posted on 10/07/2003 11:25:57 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Ranger Drew
there's an abundance of these idiots.

Abundance-2=?

39 posted on 10/07/2003 11:26:40 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (There's two kinds of people in the world. Those with loaded guns and those that dig.)
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To: Ranger Drew
"...and the sad part is...there's an abundance of these idiots.

Sadly, there aren't enough of them in King Salmon.

40 posted on 10/07/2003 11:27:02 AM PDT by There's millions of'em (Bill Clinton was a great Democrat President)
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To: ought-six
I heard some were being distributed via email last week.
The paw was as big as the guy's head.
41 posted on 10/07/2003 11:27:02 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Spruce
They were form Malibu, so I'm betting they weren't armed. They were probably wishing they were armed. I had an old girlfriend who moved to Alaska and she said when they went on a picnic they carried a .12 Ga. with slugs.
42 posted on 10/07/2003 11:27:08 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: nuconvert
yes. I've stood next to a grizzle standing... of course it was at a restaurant in Portlan, Oregon (area). It's amazing how tall they actually are when standing. The same is true for polar bears.
43 posted on 10/07/2003 11:28:39 AM PDT by bedolido (Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.)
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To: Spruce
I wonder if the victims were armed at all. I know I would have been packing if camping in Kodiak Country. And packing something heavy-duty, mind you.

They are from Malibu California, anything powerful enoyugh for bear is probably banned in that godforsaken state.

They had to fly commercial airlines to get to Alaska. The TSA would probably steal or cut up their guns (if possessed) just for kicks.

Odds are highly against them having firearms on the campground.

Of course being next to bears without weapons is a Darwin award candidacy by itself.

44 posted on 10/07/2003 11:29:05 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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To: nuconvert
Do grizzlies get to be 10 feet tall and weigh 1500 pounds?

Kodiaks are generally considered a subspecies of ursus horribilis(grizzly).

IIRC, their advantage is year-round grub - no hibernating.

45 posted on 10/07/2003 11:29:24 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Ranger Drew
Or maybe they were just sleeping at 3:00 am. Why presume the worst and call the dead idiots?
46 posted on 10/07/2003 11:29:49 AM PDT by wtc911
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To: nuconvert
I don't know. Do grizzlies get to be 10 feet tall and weigh 1500 pounds?

I saw some Kodiak bears in a zoo once, and I think they were over 10 feet tall. They were gigantic, and that cured any desire I ever had to go hiking in Alaska.

47 posted on 10/07/2003 11:29:52 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: toddst
...training to hit critical points...

Indeed. Shooting a bear in the head just pisses them off even more.
48 posted on 10/07/2003 11:30:50 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: Argus
Of course they were'nt armed!
49 posted on 10/07/2003 11:31:06 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman
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To: wtc911
...I grew up in the mountains of Montana. ...and I can tell you just by reading this story,...there were no firearms with these people. 3a.m. or not.
50 posted on 10/07/2003 11:31:59 AM PDT by Ranger Drew
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