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< sarcasm >Even handed treatment of liberal and orthodox Catholics by the Boston Globe. < /sarcasm >
1 posted on 11/02/2003 2:32:10 PM PST by american colleen
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Very long read but well worth it as this is not a "local" story but a national one.
2 posted on 11/02/2003 2:38:19 PM PST by american colleen
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"But what will they do," wonders Notre Dame's Richard McBrien, contemplating the post-John Paul II church, "without their great patron?"

The Holy Father'll be more powerful after he dies than while he was living.

3 posted on 11/02/2003 2:54:32 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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Yes, we are in the last times, no way around that. But, what happens now? Does the Lord give us more time by bringing a real, true and powerful worldwide revival upon us or does He let things continue to degenerate the way they have been until there is not one true Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christian left? I don't know, God knows, but I don't know, and neither do you. So, when you are unaware of when the shout will come, it is best to be prepared at all times.

Remember: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but My Father only....Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.... Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not, the Son of man cometh."

5 posted on 11/02/2003 2:59:58 PM PST by 2timothy3.16
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On so many of these issues, McCloskey seems already to have lost.

How they wish! The writer belongs to the same school of thought that imagined pro-lifers would just vanish by the year 2000.

6 posted on 11/02/2003 3:18:26 PM PST by madprof98
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As is the VOF represented more than a relative handful of the laity. If McBrien would get away from Notre Dame, he would discover that not many lay Catholics think the way he does.
7 posted on 11/02/2003 3:34:34 PM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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The left is upset because their brand of bizarro world logic IS loosing. The left is not liberal OR progressive. The left is regressive. The left is REpressive. They have to be in order to IMPOSE thier totalitarian world view on how you SHALL behave under penalty of LAW. They SHALL make you conform or you will not be able to get a job. You SHALL conform to the left or you will not get bread. You SHALL conform by repudiating all that is not leftist as an example. You will be forbidden from expressiong any contradiction in thoughts for thinking those thoughts will be a crime.

The left has become the evil that demands vigilance.
8 posted on 11/02/2003 3:49:44 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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Ping.
11 posted on 11/02/2003 4:04:38 PM PST by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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Deal Hudson does not like John McCloskey.

I knew I liked Deal Hudson. Here's another reason.

McCloskey, with his "get out of my Church" arrogance, was a perfect foil during the sexual abuse crisis. Ever ready to pander, he was actually DEFENDING the bishops in their handling of the sexual abuse crisis.

McCloskey is a very ambitious young man, and will no doubt be named a bishop himself some day.

Let's hope his "I hope there won't be violence" attitude matures into that reflected in the mind and heart of John Paul II.

13 posted on 11/02/2003 4:21:51 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter. You will save one life, and may save two.)
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I really can't agree with the idea that this is a "slap-down" or less than "even-handed." It might make some uncomfortable, but only if they don't support McCloskey's positions. It's not really unfair in any way. Personally I find McCloskey's insight both intriguing and compelling. Is it really possible for those who support and those who don't support abortion, infanticide, euthanasia, pan-sexuality, etc. to live together in peace? History would indicate that the answer is "No."
17 posted on 11/02/2003 4:48:33 PM PST by Maximilian
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**American Catholic Church.**

The Globe errs in the first sentence!

There is no such thing as the 1American' Catholic Church. Only the Catholic Church.

18 posted on 11/02/2003 4:49:40 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Voice of the Faithful is a dissenting organization.

It does not represent the Roman Catholic doctrine, nor does it speak for the Catholic Church.

Maybe more people need to write a letter to the editor and point out that they are entertaining mistaken images of the Catholic Church.

20 posted on 11/02/2003 5:01:36 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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In a sense, every Catholic builds his own cafeteria now. Even John McCloskey has said that he would leave the church if, by some chance, a future pope were to change the church's stand on, say, birth control or abortion.

This is not being a cafeteria Catholics, because if the Church abandoned or reversed teachings part of the deposit of faith, then she would have apostatized and would no longer be the true faith. She cannot reverse herself. The reporter simply does not understand that being Catholic is not simply following everything the Pope says, but to believe in the entire deposit of faith revealed in Scripture and Tradition and authentically interpreted by the Magisterium.

26 posted on 11/02/2003 6:35:48 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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I love Fr. CJ!

He introduced my now wife and I at the National Right-To-Life Comittee's Proudly Pro-Life Dinner in NYC in 1996.

Fr. CJ is one of the best Priests in this country. It is a great privilege to me that I can call him my friend.

Would you guys like to get his reaction to this article?
39 posted on 11/02/2003 9:57:30 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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Bork became a Catholic because after his first wife died, he married a Catholic woman... But when he decided to convert he went to McCloskey so he could discuss what Catholics believe with a priest who was both a good Catholic priest and an intelligent one...

Or it's an "opus dei" conspiracy theory...
40 posted on 11/03/2003 4:28:35 AM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politcially correct poor people.)
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FYI. And Jeb Bush, too.
62 posted on 03/06/2004 1:54:09 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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