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Catholic Bishops Eye Possible Crackdown of Pro-Abortion Pols
CrossWalk ^ | 11/11/2003 | David Thibault - CNS News

Posted on 11/11/2003 9:29:19 PM PST by yonif

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Consider today's First Reading:

Reading I
Wis 6:1-11

Hear, O kings, and understand;
learn, you magistrates of the earth's expanse!
Hearken, you who are in power over the multitude
and lord it over throngs of peoples!
Because authority was given you by the Lord
and sovereignty by the Most High,
who shall probe your works and scrutinize your counsels.
Because, though you were ministers of his kingdom, you judged not rightly,
and did not keep the law,
nor walk according to the will of God,
Terribly and swiftly shall he come against you,
because judgment is stern for the exalted–
For the lowly may be pardoned out of mercy
but the mighty shall be mightily put to the test.
For the Lord of all shows no partiality,
nor does he fear greatness,
Because he himself made the great as well as the small,
and he provides for all alike;
but for those in power a rigorous scrutiny impends.
To you, therefore, O princes, are my words addressed
that you may learn wisdom and that you may not sin.
For those who keep the holy precepts hallowed shall be found holy,
and those learned in them will have ready a response.
Desire therefore my words;
long for them and you shall be instructed.

21 posted on 11/12/2003 8:50:37 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ckca
Thanks, friend.
22 posted on 11/12/2003 8:51:11 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Catholicguy
The Deadly Dozen

Canadian Prime Minister Taunts Church: "I Am A Catholic And For Abortion"

Catholic Church asks Tom Daschle to stop calling himself a Catholic

On Catholic Politicians and Faith

Vatican Urges Catholic Politicians to Vote Along Church Lines

Senator Santorum on Being Catholic and a Politician

William E. Simon, Sr. and Jr. Devout Catholics, Philanthropists and Politicians

Deadly Dozen senator taken to task over claims of Catholicism

THE BISHOP AND THE SENATOR [author links to FR thread regarding Daschle in her online column]

Blood On Their Hands: Exposing Pro-abortion Catholic Politicians

MI Gov Granholm Proclaims June "Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Pride Month"

Colorado Governor To Media:'WE LOVE OUR CHURCH' [Gov. Bill Owens

U.S. Senator Brownback and Commentator Dick Morris Join Catholic Church

PRIEST REFUSES COMMUNION TO KNEELING PRO-LIFE POLITICIAN [Richard Black, Virginia]

Kerry [Catholic} says he'll filibuster Supreme Court nominees who do not support abortion rights

Pope to MPs: Stop gay marriage

Vatican - Considerations regarding ... homosexual persons

CONFUSIONS ABOUT POLITICAL JUDGMENT AND THE MORAL LAW

Prelate says politicians who back abortion shouldn't go to Communion

Bishop draws fire for targeting Chrétien

Kennedy likens Vatican stance on gay unions to 'bigotry' (oh, go get a job, you little creep)

Ignorance or Malicious Intent? "No religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to..."

George Weigel on Authentic Catholic Citizenship, and the Duty of Catholic Politicians to Behave as Catholics

Conservative Catholics urge Church to challenge "dissenters"

[Robert F., Jr.] Kennedy to speak at Festival of Faiths (Environmentalism as religion)

Faithful Catholic Politicians

Catholic Bishops Eye Possible Crackdown of Pro-Abortion Pols

23 posted on 11/12/2003 8:54:38 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ckca
You should calrify that you are only listing the pro-choicers. You make it look like all Catholic politicians are pro-choice!
24 posted on 11/12/2003 9:17:09 AM PST by dangus
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To: neverdem
Whether it works or not politically, it will purify the Catholic Church. Priests' support of pro-choicers, I believe, is a leading cause of "Cafeteria Catholicism," where Catholics have the attitude that they can continue to believe whatever they want and still consider themselves Catholics.
25 posted on 11/12/2003 9:19:03 AM PST by dangus
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To: Catholicguy
No, but the congregations will know that their priest is a heretic when he treats the parish as nothing more than a socialist organizing platform. This is not about elections; it's about winning the Church back from heretics.
26 posted on 11/12/2003 9:21:20 AM PST by dangus
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To: Salvation
Ahhh, sweet... I wish more people read that book :^).
27 posted on 11/12/2003 9:26:52 AM PST by dangus
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To: secret garden
What I am suggesting is that, if the Catholic church tries to flex its muscles over public servants, then afterward voters (including "liberal" members of the same church) will shy away from electing them for fear that the church member is influenced by something other than his public duty to constituents of all religions.

At the moment I am saying this with reference to Roman Catholics because the Catholic Church is talking about putting the squeeze on Catholic public servants, but the same logic applies to any denomination which tries to bully public servants who are congregants.

28 posted on 11/12/2003 9:32:43 AM PST by DonQ
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To: DonQ
What I am suggesting is that, if the Catholic church tries to flex its muscles over public servants, then afterward voters (including "liberal" members of the same church) will shy away from electing them for fear that the church member is influenced by something other than his public duty to constituents of all religions.

The Bishops have the Duty to Teach, Rule, Sanctify. Doing their duty will not incur negative responses - except from the few; such as yourself. BTW, what duty towards Animists do American politicians have?

At the moment I am saying this with reference to Roman Catholics because the Catholic Church is talking about putting the squeeze on Catholic public servants...

Teaching the Truth is not "putting the squeeze on Catholic Politicians," it is an act of Charity reminding them of their duties to objective truth.

... the same logic applies to any denomination which tries to bully public servants who are congregants.

If you find the Truth "bullying" you and I have very different ideas about Truth and Morality.

29 posted on 11/12/2003 9:51:07 AM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: dangus
Teaching the Truth will tend to result in having fewer vociferous heretics within the Church and better Catholic Politicians.
30 posted on 11/12/2003 9:52:49 AM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: dangus; ckca
You should calrify that you are only listing the pro-choicers. You make it look like all Catholic politicians are pro-choice!

Very true. I can name at least two with 100% pro-life voting records.
31 posted on 11/12/2003 10:11:57 AM PST by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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To: RobbyS
has established a commission to consider whether the public figures can be excommunicated

They need a committee to study this?

32 posted on 11/12/2003 10:13:50 AM PST by malakhi (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.)
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To: malakhi
American bishops need a committee meeting before making a head call.
33 posted on 11/12/2003 10:28:14 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: RobbyS
This would deter some poll who have had less than a 55% majority in his district and a substantial Catholic population. But it really needs an effective lay organization in that district to dog the poll during his campaign. Let the bishop speak out and have no public relation with the pol, more or less like ole Tom was treated by the Pennsylvania bishop and then stay out of the way while lay leaders organize what amount to a pro-life opposition. The best way is to get a candidate on the ballot if the Pubblie candidate is not strong enough on the issue. This has worked before.

I thought this was a very good point and should be repeated.

34 posted on 11/12/2003 10:29:13 AM PST by Maeve (Pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy!)
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To: Desdemona
A lot more than that....Chris Smith, Chris Cox, Don Nickles, Jeb Bush, Rick Santorum, ...
35 posted on 11/12/2003 10:40:31 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
And one of the ones I was think of isn't on that list. And a democrat, too.
36 posted on 11/12/2003 10:44:39 AM PST by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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To: ckca
Great list... let's get started. This is decades overdue. I pray that the bishops finally stand up to the task.
37 posted on 11/12/2003 11:04:22 AM PST by A-teamMom
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To: DonQ
I think the point is that these politicians should not consider themselves Catholic. It's not the Church dictating what they do. If they do not agree with basic teachings on the sanctity of human life, then they shouldn't come to mass and take communion. There is no room to be Catholic and pro-choice. That's not intolerance, it's living your faith.
38 posted on 11/12/2003 11:08:31 AM PST by A-teamMom
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To: DonQ
Let us not confuse J F K with Catholicism.

I remember opening day in the baseball season when Kennedy was President. It was in Washington and It was Lent and a Friday. Lo and behold Kennedy with a hot dog in his face plastered all over the newspapers in the U S.

It is time the Bishops stand up for the Church and stand up to the amoral, hypercritical pols who are bringing this country to its knees.
39 posted on 11/12/2003 11:14:16 AM PST by franky
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To: malakhi
If you want to avoid making a decision, appoint a committee.
40 posted on 11/12/2003 11:29:22 AM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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