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Diocese gives nod for Kerry to receive Eucharist
The Boston Herald ^ | April 10, 2004 | Eric Convey

Posted on 04/10/2004 8:39:21 AM PDT by Fifthmark

Priests in the Archdiocese of Boston are allowed to serve Sen. John F. Kerry [related, bio] communion this Easter even though he bucks the church's stand against abortion.

The Rev. John Ardis, director of the Paulist Center, where Kerry and his wife worship locally, said an archdiocesan official telephoned Thursday to tell him Kerry "was as welcome as any other Catholic to receive the eucharist."

The Rev. Christopher J. Coyne, a spokesman for Archbishop Sean P. O'Malley, said in an interview yesterday, "The archbishop has made no comment about Sen. Kerry and his Catholicism, nor does he plan on doing so in the near future."

What's unclear is whether O'Malley privately urged Kerry to abstain from taking communion.

In an interview with the Web site LifeSiteNews.com after January's annual March for Life in Washington, O'Malley said politicians "should know that if they're not voting correctly on these life issues, that they shouldn't dare come to communion."

Ardis, who received about 50 critical messages yesterday after word spread that he was willing to give Kerry communion, asked, "How come it's so much easier to see other people's sins than to see our own?" And he noted Kerry's positions are in line with the church's on the death penalty and "social justice" issues.

Kerry's campaign could not be reached yesterday.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholicpoliticians; eucharist; homosexuality; kerry; sacrilege
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Contact Rev. John Ardis at 1-617-742-4460, Ext. 454.
1 posted on 04/10/2004 8:39:22 AM PDT by Fifthmark
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To: Fifthmark; Land of the Irish; ultima ratio; Pyro7480; Canticle_of_Deborah; dsc; Desdemona; ...
Help stop the sacrilege PING.
2 posted on 04/10/2004 8:47:52 AM PDT by Fifthmark
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To: Fifthmark
If he went to confession, and is going to change, okay. But since Kerry is not going to change...

This is a real stab in the back for those of us trying to be faithful to the teachings of the Church. Ardis' comments on people not seeing their own sins is just plain stupid. The people who are complaining about Kerry don't have planks in their eyes. And the ones who have planks in their eyes now have another excuse not to pull it out!
3 posted on 04/10/2004 9:32:16 AM PDT by no more apples
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To: Fifthmark
I am sure many parishes in the Boston area volunteered to give Communion to pro partial birth abortion Kerry.The Catholic Church in Boston is in big trouble and will only go further down hill under O'malley.
4 posted on 04/10/2004 9:34:16 AM PDT by ardara
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To: Fifthmark
Archbishop Burke 1
Bishop Bruskewitz 1

O'Malley 0
Cardinal George 0

Any other bishops give an opinion yet? I'm keeping score.
5 posted on 04/10/2004 11:01:01 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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Kerry is OK, women are excluded in washing of feet.

Nice touch.
6 posted on 04/10/2004 11:12:52 AM PDT by LT41
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To: Fifthmark
Yeah, leave it to O'Malley to do this. I can't stand these bloody liberals within the Church. I wish we could get rid of them all.
7 posted on 04/10/2004 11:22:01 AM PDT by Eisenhower ("A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel." - Robert Frost)
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To: Fifthmark
Indexing related threads - for future reference:
Diocese gives nod for Kerry to receive Eucharist
      Posted by delacoert
On News/Activism 04/10/2004 10:40:32 AM PDT with 14 comments


The Boston Herald ^ | April 10, 2004 | Eric Convey
     
 
Chicago cardinal [George] would not withhold Eucharist [Kerry]
      Posted by Polycarp IV
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      Posted by Fifthmark
On Religion 04/10/2004 8:39:21 AM PDT with 6 comments


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Chicago Cardinal would not withhold Eucharist
      Posted by Canticle_of_Deborah
On Religion 04/09/2004 4:15:11 PM PDT with 16 comments


CWNews ^ | April 9, 2003
     
 
Bishop Bruskewitz will deny Kerry the Eucharist
      Posted by johnb2004
On Religion 04/07/2004 10:39:21 AM PDT with 33 comments


www.renewamerica.us ^ | April 6, 2004 | Barbara Kralis

8 posted on 04/10/2004 12:06:19 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: no more apples
This is a real stab in the back for those of us trying to be faithful to the teachings of the Church.

The term for this is "white martyrdom."

No blood, just suffering.

It's an occasion of grace for you (and me) and, believe it or not, you should look at it that way.

I had 25+ years of Rembert Weakland. Same thing.

9 posted on 04/10/2004 12:22:49 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Fifthmark
The Rev. John Ardis, director of the Paulist Center, where Kerry and his wife worship locally, said an archdiocesan official telephoned Thursday to tell him Kerry "was as welcome as any other Catholic to receive the Eucharist."

...even though he is in an obstinate state of mortal sin and a public scandal for the Church and its members.

The clergys' blessing of mortal sin is mortal sin itself and a further public scandal.

And the Pope does what about it?


Nothing.



(crickets chirping)



Where is the good shepherd?
10 posted on 04/10/2004 12:24:02 PM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: RonDog
Indexing related threads - for future reference:
Analysts: Religious Faith Less of a Factor for Kerry
(Kerry to Receive Communion)

      Posted by delacoert
On News/Activism 04/09/2004 5:57:09 PM PDT with 28 comments


FOXNews.com ^ | April 09, 2004 | Peter Brownfeld
     
 
Kerry WILL be given Communion at Easter Mass in Boston.
      Posted by delacoert
On General Interest (Chat) 04/09/2004 5:24:38 PM PDT with 6 comments


Fox Report | April 9, 2004 | FOX Report
     
 
Kerry's Easter Plans Include Catholic Service
[& Communion! Time for a massive Catholic FREEP!]

      Posted by Polycarp IV
On News/Activism 04/08/2004 5:53:31 PM PDT with 85 comments


Yahoo! News (Reuters) ^ | 4/8/04 | Patricia Wilson
     
 
Thou shalt not flub thy photo op, Sen. Kerry
(Caught taking "communion" in Protestant Church)

      Posted by presidio9
On News/Activism 04/08/2004 11:24:10 AM PDT with 187 comments


Boston Herald ^ | Wednesday, April 7, 2004 | David R. Guarino
     
 
Kerry’s Communion Controversy
      Posted by NYer
On News/Activism 04/07/2004 11:30:48 AM PDT with 89 comments


CBS News ^ | April 6, 2004 | David Paul Kuhn
     
 
Reuters PHOTO: "ROMAN CATHOLIC" John Kerry takes communion at AME Church
[Is this kosher?]

      Posted by RonDog
On Religion 04/04/2004 9:26:17 PM PDT with 196 comments


REUTERS photo (via the Drudge thread) ^ | April 4, 2004 | RonDog
     
 
Catholic Church 'will refuse Kerry communion' -
      Posted by UnklGene
On News/Activism 04/03/2004 3:46:04 PM PST with 104 comments


The Telegraph - UK ^ | April 4, 2004 | Julian Coman
     
 
Priests Should Refuse Communion to Kerry, Leading Catholic Says
      Posted by kattracks
On News/Activism 03/31/2004 2:47:28 PM PST with 78 comments


NewsMax.com | 3/31/04 | Phil Brennan
     
 
Pro-Life Group Disgusted With Kerry Receiving Holy Communion
      Posted by kattracks
On News/Activism 03/24/2004 7:22:49 PM PST with 36 comments


CNSNEWS.com ^ | 3/24/04 | Melanie Hunter
     
 
Kerry receives Holy Communion? Divorced,remarried.
      Posted by mdittmar
On News/Activism 03/14/2004 6:54:34 PM PST with 166 comments


Reuters ^ | 3/14/04 | me

11 posted on 04/10/2004 12:40:05 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: ninenot
**This is a real stab in the back for those of us trying to be faithful to the teachings of the Church.**

The term for this is "white martyrdom."
No blood, just suffering.
It's an occasion of grace for you (and me) and, believe it or not, you should look at it that way.
I had 25+ years of Rembert Weakland. Same thing.

I agree ninenot.  Abp. Sheen used the term "dry" martyrs in his autobiography's reference to the missionary Bishops that suffered at the hands of Communist powers in Eastern Europe and China.   Treasure in Clay is the book's title, and fwiw, I recommend it.
I'd bet that we Catholics could put together a helluva pity party if we wanted to.  Pax et bonum FRiend.
12 posted on 04/10/2004 12:44:54 PM PDT by GirlShortstop
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Kerry and O'Malley should be given the boot.
13 posted on 04/10/2004 1:43:12 PM PDT by johnb2004
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To: broadsword
The Good Shepherd (capitalized) is at the right hand of the Father.

The Vicar of Christ and Successor of Peter is in Rome.

14 posted on 04/10/2004 1:46:37 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: johnb2004
Kerry and O'Malley should be given the boot.

It will not happen. "The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep, but the hired hand runs away when the wolf comes." Or just sits there and murmurs a weak, almost inaudible, protest and goes back to his poetry while the lambs in his sheepfold are devoured.
15 posted on 04/10/2004 3:54:31 PM PDT by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: broadsword
Or just sits there and murmurs a weak, almost inaudible, protest...

Please tell me, and others who happen by this comment of yours b'sword, that this does not imply what it looks to.
16 posted on 04/10/2004 4:01:01 PM PDT by GirlShortstop
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To: tioga
See #9. I didn't know there was a term for it.
18 posted on 04/10/2004 4:12:12 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Hey John F'in. Kerry, why the long face?)
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To: sartorius
Thanks. I was wondering about CA. Sooner or later Kerry will be here.

Bishop Weigand of Sacramento might speak out, depending on the fallout from the Gray Davis admonition. Vigernon has a dilemma. He is in an extremely liberal diocese, religious and politically. It will be interesting to see what he does.
19 posted on 04/10/2004 5:51:07 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
"Any other bishops give an opinion yet? I'm keeping score"

Diocese of Trenton Bishop John M. Smith said it "gives him great annoyance" when Catholic politicians don't adhere to Catholic teachings,,,,,

Smith's comments, which came during a recent Respect Life Mass in Red Bank, were posted on the diocese's Web site and published in its newspaper, The Monitor.

Diocese spokeswoman Audra Miller said Thursday that Smith was away and unavailable for additional comment. "I don't think we're going to comment any further," Miller said.

Bishop John M. Smith of Trenton, NJ is annoyed but skips town.

Another Cafeteria Catholic Bishop?

Your Scoreboard, your call.

20 posted on 04/10/2004 9:10:39 PM PDT by TYVets ("An armed society is a polite society." - Robert A. Heinlein & me)
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