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Mathematics bombshell: God 'confirmed in Bible'
World Net Daily ^ | December 12, 2004

Posted on 12/12/2004 3:07:51 AM PST by The Loan Arranger

For a lot of people, the Bible and mathematics are dry subjects, but not for Edwin Sherman – he believes he's found how the two fit together.

Sherman, founder of the Isaac Newton Bible Code Research Society and a professional mathematician, is convinced that the Hebrew Bible contains coded messages that are evidence of God's authorship of the Bible. His book, "Bible Code Bombshell: Compelling Scientific Evidence that God Authored the Bible," describes numerous examples of encoded phrases and sentences that are both lengthy and relevant to the text where they were found.

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1 posted on 12/12/2004 3:07:52 AM PST by The Loan Arranger
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To: The Loan Arranger
Bravo Sierra. If God were to put "proof" of his existance in the Bible, then why not give something unequivical such as "The Sun is a Star", or "E=MC[squared]"? Why would the greatest being in existence bother to play obscure number games which only appear in Hebrew?

In any event, why would you want concrete proof for the existance of God? Wouldn't that totally invalidate the concept of faith?

2 posted on 12/12/2004 3:15:55 AM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: The Loan Arranger; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Dr. Eckleburg
. Isaiah 53 proved to be a rich cluster of hidden messages, containing 42 encoded statements relating to Jesus' death, resurrection and ascension, far more than his baseline predicted.

Note the number 42. 42 months in Jesus' ministry, 42 sojourns in the desert, (Numbers 33), 42 children eaten by the bears when they told Elisha to "go up!" Great stuff!

3 posted on 12/12/2004 3:21:05 AM PST by D Edmund Joaquin (read the Manifesto of Pukin Dog)
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To: Zeroisanumber
Agreed. If you run enough formulae you can get a code to say anything from any huge group of letters and words. The Bible is, was, and will forever be a matter of faith, not fact. If you are a believer, you don't need bogus science to prove God's existance, if you aren't, no amount of so-called "proof" is going to convince you.

Unless God manifests himself here on Earth in a very real and tangible way you'll never really "prove" His existance. Even then you'd have people claiming mass hysteria or something. If you have faith that ought to be good enough, God doesn't require anymore proof than the fact we are here.

4 posted on 12/12/2004 3:21:06 AM PST by puppetz
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To: puppetz
God DOES manifest himself here on earth in very real and tangible ways. It is called "General Revelation". As you say, if one wishes to deny Him, one may. He gives us that option.

I have to admit to being astonished a bit at "Bible Codes". What language do they decode English, Greek, Hebrew, or Aramaic? One would think that in decoding a translation the result would be a bit more questionable. As for myself, I would tend to look at such efforts in a very similar light as Saul's seeking the counsel of a soothsayer. The Bible doesn't tell us that such efforts are fruitless, it tells us not to do it. Not because the counsel is untrue (curiously) but because the source is not Him but "he who is in the world". God hasn't made his message difficult to understand or cloaked in mystery. He has revealed Himself in a way that, as Jesus said, even the simpleminded can receive Him. It is frequently those who "have wisdom" who have the most difficulty and He said it would be thus, "for I have placed a block of offense in Zion". Those who feel that it requires some special gift of intellect to understand God's message are stumbling over this block. God is so gracious that He has not reserved place at the Feast of The Bride for only those select but He has thrown the doors open wide for any who would come in and receive Him. Only the most generous personality in the Universe would do that, and He did it a a great price, as one can see in Mel Gibson's movie.

Praise God!
5 posted on 12/12/2004 3:35:03 AM PST by wastoute
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To: Zeroisanumber
If God were to put "proof" of his existance in the Bible, then why not give something unequivical such as "The Sun is a Star", or "E=MC[squared]"?
Or: "Don't let your faith be shaken by what you find in the fossil record."

Without predictions of modern scientific developments (especially the one that shakes faiths), we're left with "he said, she said".

6 posted on 12/12/2004 3:43:09 AM PST by samtheman
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To: D Edmund Joaquin
Note the number 42

Everyone with even the slightest education knows that 42 is the answer to life, the universe and everything.

7 posted on 12/12/2004 3:46:38 AM PST by Jeff Gordon (Now is the time for all wise men to gloat. FOUR MORE YEARS,)
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To: The Loan Arranger
Ivan Panin
8 posted on 12/12/2004 3:48:25 AM PST by Aeronaut (May all the feckless become fecked.)
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To: Jeff Gordon

It certainly has deep meaning in the bible


9 posted on 12/12/2004 3:49:04 AM PST by D Edmund Joaquin (read the Manifesto of Pukin Dog)
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To: The Loan Arranger

More Bible code baloney. Nothing new, the occult has been dabbling with numerology and gematria (Kabbalah) for hundreds of years. The only difference is now they have computers.

Kabbalist mystics claim the words we read in our bibles are only for the stupid, these elites, however, claim to know what these words REALLY mean. Each letter is equivalent to a number, hence when Moses gave the Torah, it was for the elite among them, the Kabbalists, to decipher the code. An esoteric science.

The Torah doesn't mean what it appears to mean on the surface, with numerology the words of the Torah can be made to mean anything - anything the numeric "experts" want it to mean. Its all in the eye of the beholder.

Not me, I choose to believe Moses was not writing some sort of esoteric code. The word of God means what it appears to mean.

One doesn't need mystic numerology to prove God, millions of ordinary people through the centuries have come to faith by taking the words of the bible at face value. The Apostle Paul often quoted from the Torah in the New Testament, nowhere does he try to prove the existence of God, or prove any point by telling us, "Now if you will use numerics on this quotation you will find out the true meaning."


10 posted on 12/12/2004 3:53:05 AM PST by sasportas
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To: puppetz

I wonder if Minister Louis Farahkhan was his assistant?


11 posted on 12/12/2004 3:54:12 AM PST by rvoitier (There are too many Al's in this world: Al Qaeda, Al Jazzera, Al Gore, Al Sharpton, Al Franken)
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To: samtheman

It'd probably be something more along the lines of: "Evolution is obviously real, you morons, and I planned it that way!"


12 posted on 12/12/2004 3:56:55 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Jeff Gordon
Yes, but what's the question?

"WHAT DOYOUGET WHEN YOU MULTIPLY SIX BY NINE?"

13 posted on 12/12/2004 3:57:28 AM PST by thulldud (It's bad luck to be superstitious.)
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To: samtheman

"Or: "Don't let your faith be shaken by what you find in the fossil record."
Without predictions of modern scientific developments (especially the one that shakes faiths), we're left with "he said, she said"."


Just like the HEavenly Father said to Job

Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou ME.

Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou has understanding.


OH sorry guess the Heavenly Father is waiting for 'predictions of modern scientific developments'.


14 posted on 12/12/2004 3:57:57 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: puppetz
If you run enough formulae you can get a code to say anything from any huge group of letters and words.

It's easier in Hebrew because the vowels aren't written out; allows a lot more fortuitous combinations.

Great way to sell books; not much use otherwise, IMAO.

15 posted on 12/12/2004 3:59:59 AM PST by thulldud (It's bad luck to be superstitious.)
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To: AntiGuv
It'd probably be something more along the lines of: "Evolution is obviously real, you morons, and I planned it that way!"
Which would be, itself, a somewhat contradictory message unless it was the preface to a larger essay on "Why I used evolution".

PS: In my opinion, you should drop the "moron" stuff.

16 posted on 12/12/2004 4:04:39 AM PST by samtheman
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To: The Loan Arranger
The earthly things are just the blueprints

Heb 8:5

Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

Heb 10:1

For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year * * continually * * make the comers thereunto perfect.

17 posted on 12/12/2004 4:06:33 AM PST by D Edmund Joaquin (read the Manifesto of Pukin Dog)
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To: The Loan Arranger
Hm. Didn't Carl Sagan write a novel where the infinitely tiny numbers far to the right of the decimal point in pi 'prove' the existence of God? Fiddley kind of God, if so.
18 posted on 12/12/2004 4:09:00 AM PST by Grut
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To: Zeroisanumber
Bravo Sierra. If God were to put "proof" of his existance in the Bible, then why not give something unequivical such as "The Sun is a Star", or "E=MC[squared]"?

He did. Your mistake is to presume beforehand you would recognize that proof.

Why would the greatest being in existence bother to play obscure number games which only appear in Hebrew?

It isn't just in Hebrew. Like the narrative itself, the proofs are multi-faceted and of varying character. Dismissing the idea of embedded proofs is as foolish as calling chinese script "scribbles" because you can't read it.

In any event, why would you want concrete proof for the existance of God?

To validate the message. The existence of G-d is already assumed.

Wouldn't that totally invalidate the concept of faith?

No, because you would have to have faith to believe there is a riddle there worth attempting to solve.

19 posted on 12/12/2004 4:09:45 AM PST by papertyger
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To: thulldud
Ahem.

6 X 9 = 54

7 X 6 = 42

20 posted on 12/12/2004 4:10:44 AM PST by Miss Marple
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