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Pope pushing a Latin trend
World Peace Herald ^ | April 26, 2005 | Uwe Siemon-Netto

Posted on 04/28/2005 1:09:30 PM PDT by NYer

WASHINGTON - Pope Benedict XVI loves to chant the mass in Latin and occasionally preach in this language that had long been sidelined even in the Roman Catholic Church.


Now scholars such as David Jones, chairman of the classics department at Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Mich., wonder: "Is this pontiff riding a trend -- or pushing it?"


That Latin and Greek are en vogue again seems to be an international phenomenon.


"I think, therefore I do Latin," runs an axiom popular among the brighter variety of British secondary school students. It is a play on French philosopher Réné Descartes' famous dictum, "I think, therefore I am."


In some cities, such as Leeds, they band together for after-school classes in Latin to boost their analytical skills, according to the BBC.


The lack of Latin teachers resulting from the neglect of the classics in the postmodern pedagogy of the 1970s and 1980s does not seem to hamper the enthusiasm of today's high school students. These days college students are doubling as instructors. Moreover, the classics have gone high-tech. To make up for the woeful shortage of teachers, the Cambridge Online Latin Project provides digital resources including an "e-tutor."


Students can send their homework. For a fee of approximately $18, the e-tutor will mark and annotate the papers.


In Germany, once a great bastion of the classics, Internet help for Latin learners has even triggered legal battles.


A 15-year old boy has caused the ire of textbook publishers by placing his own translations of the Latin classics online to be downloaded by others.


For while Cesar's De Bellum Gallicum clearly does not benefit from copyright protection, abbreviated schoolbook versions of such texts do. And so one publisher is suing him for copyright infringements and causing his company severe economic harm.


Moreover, the publisher accused him of "advanced criminal energy" -- and threatened to have him dragged before a criminal court.


Meanwhile in the United States, the revival of Latin and Greek proceeds along more genteel lines. Christian schools, which are rapidly growing in numbers, strongly emphasize instruction in these languages said Robert Benne, director of the Center for Religion and society in Salem, Va., who serves on the board of one of these institutions.


But secular schools, too, are taken a renewed interest in Latin, according to Hillsdale's Jones, who is impressed by the skills of some of their graduates in that language.


Gone are the days when nobody in the academy wanted to hear anything about the ancient world, says Jones, who attributes the new fascination with Latin and Greek to the conservative renewal of the last 20 years.


This interest has accelerated at such a rate over the last decade that "we at Hillsdale are teaching double and triple overloads to meet the need." Every year some 100 freshmen -- more than a quarter of the first-year students -- take Latin, and some Greek as well.


The situation is similar at many other small liberal arts schools, such as St. Olaf College in Northfield, Minn., where professors observe a growing awareness among students that classics are essential for critical analysis.


Many Hillsdale graduates with a facility to read Latin and Greek move on to pursue advanced degrees in the German or French classical traditions, or to enter seminary, Jones says.


Others immerse themselves in these languages for the same reasons their forebears did -- simply to obtain a well-rounded education.


Meanwhile back in Rome, the new German pope will doubtless continue to promote Latin as part of "a reform of the reform," as he said when he was just plain Cardinal Josef Ratzinger, meaning that he will endeavor to reverse the triviality to which the mass had descended after the Second Vatican Council in the 1960s.


As his predecessor, John Paul II, had written, "Sacred liturgy is the highest expression of the mysterious reality" and the "culminating point toward which the action of the Church is directed and at the same time the source from which all her strength is derived."


Vatican II bungled the liturgical reform, states the Rev. john McCloskey, a Catholic priest with the Faith and Reason Institute in Chicago.


Since presiding at the first funeral Mass for John Paul II, Cardinal Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict, has shown to the world the luxuriant beauty of the old mass that has inspired some of history's greatest composers. And that mass is sung and spoken in the language kids on both sides of the Atlantic have come to appreciate once again -- Latin.


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To: Northern Yankee
Victoria's Secret?

Yeah, that's my secret alright, lol... “Victory favors those who take pains”

141 posted on 04/29/2005 4:47:04 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Yeah, that's my secret alright, lol... “Victory favors those who take pains”

Let the pain begin...

142 posted on 04/29/2005 4:50:03 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs a soldier)
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To: Northern Yankee


Speaking of pain, I need to make dinner, LOL.


143 posted on 04/29/2005 4:52:28 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Ok...I swear I'm not playing with half a deck of cards. Do you speak Italian? I thought you might based on your home page ( which is really cool by the way ) Any idea the English translation of the back of this photo? Here is the front
144 posted on 04/29/2005 4:59:42 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Speaking of pain, I need to make dinner, LOL.

My goodness... don't hurt yourself.

Ahhhh... the weekend.

I am sure you're a wonderful cook. Never met an Italian woman who didn't know how to cook.

145 posted on 04/29/2005 5:24:20 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs a soldier)
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To: Frank Sheed

Well, that makes sense. V's wife.


146 posted on 04/29/2005 6:20:41 PM PDT by ventana
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To: warsaw44

It's French for... There is a small number of soldiers in costume circa 1300 (I can't really read the date, or the rest for that matter.)


147 posted on 04/29/2005 6:28:16 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Northern Yankee
I am sure you're a wonderful cook.

LOL, I'm terrible. I suck!

148 posted on 04/29/2005 6:29:05 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul

I had no idea it was French. I thought Italian as the entire collection of photos was put together by an American in Italy during the 1930s. I know that the men depicted are Italian Army. I had a few others showing the men at a party in their C. 1300 uniforms. Odd
Thanks Victoria!


149 posted on 04/29/2005 7:04:48 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: warsaw44

You're very welcome. Funny, but there is a mixture of French, English, and Italian there. There is no (my) word in Italian or French... take a look.


150 posted on 04/29/2005 7:15:00 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
LOL, I'm terrible. I suck!

We're gonna have to find the Latin translation to I suck. ; )

I really do enjoy cooking. The more intricate, the more of a challenge it becomes. I come from a family of culinary experts, so making a simple hamburger can be daunting.

151 posted on 04/29/2005 7:32:08 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs a soldier)
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To: Northern Yankee
We're gonna have to find the Latin translation to I suck. ; )

I should be more careful when, and what I post, LOL.

Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui.
Beware what you say, when, and to whom, hehehe.

152 posted on 04/29/2005 7:46:42 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: NYer
"Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI

I agree.

153 posted on 04/29/2005 7:56:40 PM PDT by vox_freedom (Fear no evil)
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To: vox_freedom

And love without truth is also empty.


154 posted on 04/29/2005 8:13:12 PM PDT by vox_freedom (Fear no evil)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui.

Beware what you say, when, and to whom, hehehe.

Amen! (Yuur safe witb me...)

Gotta go.

Have a blessed night!

See you tomorrow, my sweet friend.

155 posted on 04/29/2005 8:16:42 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs a soldier)
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To: Northern Yankee

Ci vediamo domani.


156 posted on 04/29/2005 8:19:38 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Dear Victoria, So its a mix of all three languages? How odd....I purchased the collection years ago. It was by far one of the greatest collections I have ever handled. There were magnificent photos of Italian aristocracy, dinner parties, equestrian gatherings, Italian car racing in which minor Italian royals participated in, ball room dances - and so on. There were hundreds and hundreds of photos in the albums. Simply a magnificent photo history of Italian society just before Mussolini. The photo I had asked for a translation of I had lost track of some time ago. It was the last photo from the collection. I thought I'd have it translated at some point. I kept the photo inside a book I was reading and well...totally forgot about it. I just found again just recently! Just for the fun of it I thought you'd enjoy the photo below - guess the location! ( ok....its somewhere in Italy )
157 posted on 04/30/2005 12:18:07 AM PDT by warsaw44
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To: warsaw44

I don't know... is it the Aqueduct?


158 posted on 04/30/2005 12:57:12 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul

The location is just outside of Rome. If I remember correctly this bridge was blown up by Papal forces in 1867 prior to an engagement against Garibaldi. I dont think it was ever rebuilt. Of course, now that I'm trying to remember the exact name of the bridge - I cant! typical...


159 posted on 04/30/2005 3:34:28 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: NYer

I have a great fondness for Gregorian chants. They're soooooo soothing.


160 posted on 04/30/2005 3:41:02 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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