Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

POPE APPROVES BARRING GAY SEMINARIANS
EWTN ^ | September 19, 2005

Posted on 09/19/2005 3:35:59 PM PDT by NYer

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100101-108 next last
To: GSlob

So sinning against the physical integrity of the human person is a good thing? You forget that Origen was a heretic who denied the divinity of Christ. I do not follow heretics into error, certainly one as ludacris as to mutilate healthy flesh. It is not the man's penis that causes him to sin. It is his weak will. Removing the penis and leaving the will intact is hardly a solution. You forget your place when you suggest such things.


61 posted on 09/19/2005 8:53:07 PM PDT by SaintThomasMorePrayForUs
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: SaintThomasMorePrayForUs
I have read a lot of very novel solutions to the sins of these men who are supposed to be Shepard's of Christ's Church.  I have not even once heard the Biblical prescription to a very serious problem.  It seems that many have become so jaded as to having these men amongst them that they think this is a matter of jest.

1 Corinthians 5
Expel the Immoral Brother! 

9I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

12What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."

62 posted on 09/19/2005 9:13:27 PM PDT by gscc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: NYer
Instrumentum Laboris for apostolic visitation
Read the document used for seminary evaluations [pdf]

63 posted on 09/19/2005 9:27:26 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Teˇfilo

I agree with you, its way too entrenched. How do they expect to enforce it, some churches are pretty much de facto schismatic anyhow.


64 posted on 09/19/2005 9:39:50 PM PDT by SaintDismas (Jest becuz you put yer boots in the oven, don't make it bread)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: DBeers

Great news. I'll be a-pinging later tonight or tomorrow AM. Just walked in the door.


65 posted on 09/19/2005 10:07:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: DirtyHarryY2K

Oh, you got this one too! Can't I have any fun being the bearer of good news?


66 posted on 09/19/2005 10:08:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Teˇfilo

"those (men who suffer from SSAD) that have been ordained and by the grace of God have remained celibate."

My, you will keep insisting that such things happen, won't you?


67 posted on 09/19/2005 10:16:21 PM PDT by dsc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: sandyeggo
The wheels turn slowly, don't they?

Well, maybe it just means that the gear ratio was set for highest torque conditions in climbing over all the dissent. It appears to be time to move into overdrive now for high speed.

68 posted on 09/19/2005 11:09:05 PM PDT by TotusTuus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: annalex
Castration is not mortification of flesh -- it insults the Creator.

Can we use chastity belts?

69 posted on 09/19/2005 11:11:07 PM PDT by TotusTuus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: SolomoninSouthDakota

What evidence is there of this?


70 posted on 09/19/2005 11:31:24 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: DBeers

What's that? Do you Spanish Inquisition or the Holy Inquisition? May I ask are you Catholic?


71 posted on 09/20/2005 1:03:34 AM PDT by DoirVue
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: NYer



It seems to me that Consecrated Life would be mean salvation to an homosexual. As a priest he would have to be celebrate. The Holy Father has already said that the sin is bad not the sinner however the sinner should avoid committing the sin. Just like a dipsomaniac. As the cannon say ""all the faithful form a holy and royal priesthood, offer spiritual sacrifices through Jesus Christ and proclaim the greatness of him who has called you out of darkness into his marvellous light" (cf 1 Pet 2:5. 9).(4) In Christ, his entire Mystical body is united to the Father through the Holy Spirit for the salvation of all men." Because "Through consecration, the priest "receives a spiritual 'power' as a gift which is a participation in the authority with which Jesus Christ, through his Spirit, guides the Church". again the Cannons.

I can't find this on the Vatican web page. My Italian is Italian and Latin are great. I'm a little suspect. Because John Paul II has spoken on this since 1994.


72 posted on 09/20/2005 1:37:03 AM PDT by DoirVue
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SolomoninSouthDakota

What hell CAN break lose? I think the term "homosexual trendacies" is a little losy goosy for the THe Holy See
bureaucrats with tow thousand years of writing stuff like this. And I think it should be the Bishop or the Primate of the order who makes the call. In every country Bishops have National Conferences but those Conferences don't exist in t he Church's structure and the Diocese is completely and wholly responsible for its priests if the Bishops accepts them.
So remember seminaries "No Show Tumes"


73 posted on 09/20/2005 1:48:20 AM PDT by DoirVue
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: NYer
”…Pope Benedict XVI has given his approval to a new Vatican policy document…The Instruction does not represent a change in...policy.

Huh???

74 posted on 09/20/2005 4:15:31 AM PDT by HarleyD ("...and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed." Act 13:48)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Desdemona

Hold off for a couple of days.

We still haven't seen the whites of the eyes of those who will resist; but not to worry--they'll show up in the weekend Op Eds in the papers...


75 posted on 09/20/2005 4:23:35 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Petrosius

"Enforcement"?

TTGC (see the tagline) will be happy to help. Not only with those Bishops who resist-but with those who refuse the eviction notices.


76 posted on 09/20/2005 4:25:14 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: SaintThomasMorePrayForUs

Please: show examples of "mean-spiritedness."

Frankly, the meanest people I've met are generally queers.


77 posted on 09/20/2005 4:27:22 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: StAthanasiustheGreat
Don't forget the fire wood.

Oh, yes.

78 posted on 09/20/2005 4:39:50 AM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: SaintThomasMorePrayForUs
There seems to be a lot of mean-spiritedness in this forum.

We will pray for the disordered, but we have been praying for this for so long, that to actually see it happen is a joyous occasion.

79 posted on 09/20/2005 4:42:25 AM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: ninenot
We still haven't seen the whites of the eyes of those who will resist; but not to worry--they'll show up in the weekend Op Eds in the papers...

They've already started crawling out from under rocks.

80 posted on 09/20/2005 4:44:51 AM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 75 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100101-108 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson