Posted on 09/26/2005 7:43:44 AM PDT by NYer
Pope Benedict XVI met with one of his fiercest critics, the dissident Swiss theologian Hans Kung, and the two had a "friendly" theological discussion, the Vatican said Monday.
The meeting occurred Saturday, Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls said in a statement.
"The two agreed that there was no sense in entering, within the confines of the meeting, in a dispute surrounding the persistent doctrinal questions between Hans Kung and the magisterium of the Catholic Church," the statement said.
The two did, however, discuss other theological issues, including the question of global ethics and the dialogue between scientific reason and Christian faith, Navarro-Valls said.
Kung was stripped of the right to teach theology at the University of Tuebingen in Germany in 1979 after challenging Roman Catholic doctrines such as papal infallibility.
*** I could be wrong;)***
Titus 3
"As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned."
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Not unless Kueng recants. They have always been friendly.
Frankly, I don't see Kung renouncing his heresies. Most heretics are so enamored with their view of the god they have created that no amount of reasoning can dissuade them of their views. When a heretic looks in the mirror he sees god.
In meeting with the heretical, schismatic, insane, Fellay, the Pope did not weaken the Church; although, to grant you your point, I wish the Pope had the Swiss Guard toss Fellay out of the Vatican on his dumb ass but the Pope, I guess, likes nicey-nice.
***When a heretic looks in the mirror he sees god.***
Very true. The liberals love to be seen as the vaunted spiritual "guru".
I've seen that they seek to destroy the authority of the Scriptures (and Tradition) so they can fill that authority void with themselves.
Ach du meine Gotte. Was ist ihm passiert?!#
My point isn't whether he can be a good Catholic. It's whether he's done something that would prevent him from being friends with Ratzinger.
I'm betting there are some things that are such serious crimes that the Pope wouldn't really relish the presence of the man.....avoid the appearance of evil kind of thing.
I don't think Kung's violation is of that nature.
I don't know. I'm not at all curious about the man.
Yes Catholicguy, you have a few "issues" with the SSPX, its best you try to move on, but sadly it seems others like Stephen Hand and I Shawn McIlhenny who have had falling outs with the SSPX cant get on with their lives.
My impression is that Mr. Kung doesn't believe significant portions of the Catholic Faith. The only reason for a person to make an issue over the infallibility of the Pope, is that he disagrees with doctrines that are infallibly defined :-).
However, that simply makes him a Protestant, or, if he disagrees sufficiently, a non-Christian. I have plenty of friends (and FRiends) and cordial acquaintances (not to mention parents and siblings) who are Protestants or non-Christian, and I don't see why the Pope shouldn't.
I don't think Philadelphia was criticized.
I, too, have nothing but admiration for Polycarp. I was simply pointing out that Smyrna was not the only church that was uncriticized. There were two of them. Philadelphia was the other. I've recently been told that of the 7 cities mentioned, that the current location of Philadelphia is the only of the 7 that has a Christian church. I have no way to verify that.
It's clear what neoCatholics fear the most, simultaneously betraying their own progressive bent.....they are the conservative public relations front for the Modernists...Kung was just 10 years ahead of the plan on the Modernist agenda.
It makes perfect sense.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected." -GK Chesterton
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