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POPE HIT THE MARK: AT ROOT OF CATHOLIC PROBLEMS IS LACK OF BIBLICAL SPIRITUALITY
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Posted on 10/05/2005 11:05:11 PM PDT by Salvation

POPE HIT THE MARK: AT ROOT OF CATHOLIC PROBLEMS IS LACK OF BIBLICAL SPIRITUALITY

He could not have hit it more squarely on the head. Pope Benedict XVI, toiling quietly, with little of the visibility enjoyed by his predecessor, nonetheless was giving hints that he is doing what he always has, what he is used to doing, what he did for a quarter of a century as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger: working behind the scenes to hold the world's most important institution together, and he is starting where it must start, where it needs to start, where so many of the problems reside: with the Bible.

A few weeks ago, in a major pronouncement (albeit one underreported in by the Christian media), he said, "Assiduous reading of sacred Scripture accompanied by prayer makes that intimate dialogue possible in which, through reading, one hears God speaking, and through prayer, one responds with a confident opening of the heart. If this practice is promoted with efficacy, I am convinced that it will produce a new spiritual springtime in the Church" [our italics].

Above all, he was saying, we must remember Scripture.

Added the Pope, in speaking about Europe, "many Christian things occur, but there is also a great fatigue, and we are so concerned with structural questions that the zest and the joy of faith are missing."

As he prepared for Youth Day last August, Benedict XVI loudly rejected the idea of Christianity as a religion of rules and prohibitions and said he hoped to use his trip to spur "a wave of new faith" -- the type of faith that brings results, displays miracles, and springs forth from the Bible."

Let us add that the root of crisis in the Church is how little the Bible is heeded and how much worldliness has infiltrated. Too often, we compromise with society and its trends (its politics, its fashions) because we want to be "with it." We also confuse the word "religious" with "spiritual."

Religion is supposed to lead to spirituality. Frequently, it does not. It is the best way to obtain spirituality -- the narrowest gate -- but too often it leads only leads to religiosity (and a reverence for the codes of man instead of those of God). 

 Church and Word The remedy is the book it is all based on. The Church is in desperate need of biblical spirituality. Biblical spirituality is living a life modeled after those set forth as historical examples. It is feeling the grace that flows from the pages. We have plenty of theology. We have enough canon laws. What we need now is familiarity with that remarkable book and the knowing that it is of true supernatural origin.

Reading the Bible on a regular basis allows us to feel the actual move of the Holy Spirit -- to reach God through our hearts instead of through our self-important thoughts.

The Pope's words mimic those of saints like Therese the Little Flower -- who once said that "above all it's the Gospels that occupy my mind when I'm at prayer; my poor soul has so many needs, and yet this is the one thing needful. I'm always finding fresh lights there, hidden and enthralling meanings."

What happened at our seminaries? The Bible was pushed away as ancient literature (and even mythology) and Catholics have now seen the result. Show us a skeptic (one who does not believe in healing or exorcism or prophecy), and we'll show you someone who does not read Scripture.

We have become too secularized and too busy reading complex theology -- the ideas of others about the Bible, or about the ideas of previous theologians about the Bible -- instead of the Bible itself. We formulate complex ideas to impress others.

In other words, we get so wrapped up in the words of man that we forget the Word of God -- which encourages us to exercise spiritual gifts and to believe in the simple movement of Him everywhere (including in current events). When we read Scripture, we understand more about current events than if we read the newspaper.

A Church that is not prophetic, that is not Bible-based, is not a Christian one. It is the very foundation for our precious sacraments!

Call it "aridity" : there is a great spiritual vacancy in the intellectualized Western Church and from the vacancy has erupted scandal.

Unlike other written works, the Bible is alive and of endless fascination for those who come to know its actual power. It informs every day. It relates to different things at different times. It pertains to every circumstance. As Saint Therese said, it has a hidden nature that can be enthralling.

And it tells us what Christians are supposed to do: pray with a living faith, cast out demons, heal, spread the Word, love, give. During the disaster of Katrina the worldly institutions fell while the spiritual ones -- the churches, the charities -- picked up the pieces.

It is in the Bible that we find the richness of wisdom. It is in the Bible that we feel the Holy Spirit.

God will speak to you there.

Need an answer? Remarkably and often miraculously, it's in the testaments. 

[resources: the Catholic Bible]



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To: Rytwyng; Rocketman
I've encountered this too, and was horrified. I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition....

OK First, I am not the Spanish Inquisition so be assured I won't make you sit in the comfy chair! Second, I am not a sedevacantist (those who think the Popes since Vatican II are invalid). Indeed, I am very much a supporter of our current Pope's election and, though I have problems with the decisions and actions of certain bishops, priests, and Cardinals; I am a faithful daughter of the Roman Catholic Church.

That being said, the Spanish Inquisition is a much maligned occurance of history. Thanks to current research carried out by serious historians, some of whom are not Catholic, and computer technology the thousands upon thousands of detailed documents of each case handled by the various arms of the Spanish Inquisition over hundreds of years have been compiled and analyzed. It was definately not the heinous institution claimed by 16th century propagandists. The vast majority of the cases, over 80% were handled by lay lawyers and the few hundred people who were actually executed over its almost 500 year history pale in comparison to what happened in its Northern European counterparts.

21 posted on 10/06/2005 4:56:13 AM PDT by Diva
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To: Diva

bump


22 posted on 10/06/2005 5:02:29 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Rytwyng
Remember what I said a few months back, about how perhaps the hoped-for reunion might occur in our lifetimes?

Perhaps the Spirit feels now is a good time for Christianity to begin to come together. I think we will have to if we want to retain religous freedom of worship in America.

Brother in Christ

23 posted on 10/06/2005 5:03:08 AM PDT by jo kus
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To: Salvation
Catholics, are you currently in a Bible Study group?

It would be nice to settle on one translation. I prefer the older translations. Most bible studies use the new ones and I think that some translators took some liberties. It would be nice to know Greek and Hebrew and read it in the original to know for sure.

24 posted on 10/06/2005 5:04:41 AM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: Salvation
We have become too secularized and too busy reading complex theology -- the ideas of others about the Bible, or about the ideas of previous theologians about the Bible -- instead of the Bible itself. Bingo!!

In many ways, this very statement has caused much anger to Catholics when it came from other Christians.

25 posted on 10/06/2005 5:06:53 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Salvation
Catholics who pray the Liturgy of the Hours, the prayer of the Church, get a big dose of the Bible everyday!
26 posted on 10/06/2005 5:12:00 AM PDT by k omalley (Caro Enim Mea, Vere est Cibus, et Sanguis Meus, Vere est Potus)
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To: jo kus; Rytwyng
A few years ago, my Lutheran Pastor and my then girlfriend now wife's priest said that they expected reunion soon.

Only that it will happen in the catacombs, and by necessity.
27 posted on 10/06/2005 5:12:06 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: HarleyD

I think the article over-reacts to the Church's view that not all parts of Scripture are to be read ONLY literally, especially the first 11 Chapters of Genesis, call Pre-History. We first take the Scriptures literally, but we realize that it is possible that our interpretations should be taken in a more spiritual sense to get the most out of Scripture.

The story of Jonah, for example, CAN be taken as a parable or a story. It may or may not be literally true. However, the truth that God meant to say THROUGH the story is inerrant. What is that truth? Certainly, that Gentiles can be saved, and can be far more repentant than the chosen people (whether you interpret that as Jews of the OT or Christians of the NT).

Brother in Christ


28 posted on 10/06/2005 5:12:45 AM PDT by jo kus
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To: Desdemona

I like the NASB for study (almost to literal in its translation) and the new ESV for private reading (reminds of the RSV I grew up with and had to memorize so much of!).

The D-R is also good for reading, as it is in all those old English forms of speech.


29 posted on 10/06/2005 5:13:53 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Kolokotronis

"We have a weekly Bible Study group at our Orthodox parish! :)"


Do you know if it is for information and knowledge, for spirituality primarily, or a combination of both? I have seen versions of all three. Do they focus on a book, or a theme? I was considering leading one, but I don't know which would be better (of the two above questions), plus I am busy already...

Brother in Christ


30 posted on 10/06/2005 5:16:23 AM PDT by jo kus
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To: P-Marlowe; Rytwyng; Salvation
Pope Discovers Principle of Sola Scriptura!

I'm with Rytwyng. Not 'Sola', but 'Prima'. We also have Sacred Tradition and the Magisterium.

"No 'Sola' mia"...

31 posted on 10/06/2005 5:18:58 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats.)
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To: Rhadaghast; NYer; Salvation

I wouldn't confuse the Bishops of England, Scotland and Wales for the Church as a whole. Sadly, the Catholic Church in England is very much of the mind as the Anglican Church in England. The Catholic Church as a whole appoints Status Quo Bishops in England and then ignores them, just a few tidbits for thoughts.

I agree with Benedict. The Bible is central. Scripture is one of the two pillars upon which The Church is built. The Modernist attack on Scripture in the last sixty years as eroded that pillar in the eyes of many, causing it to crumble. When it crumbles, the other pillar of Tradition collapses as well, since it cannot stand without the other. In essence, the Modernists attacked the Bible knowing it would bring down the Church in a sense. Only a return to a proper understanding for scripture, a proper reverence for it can remedy the previous attack.

It is not that Catholics don't look to the Bible (though many do not), but the attacks of the last sixty years were so successful in many places, that many do not properly respect the Bible. They hear too often that the Miracle of the Loaves and the Fishes is about sharing or that Jesus didn't raise Lazarus from the dead, merely showed everyone the joy of the soul going to God, or something like that. Attacking the mystery and the miracle of the Bible has undermined the Church as a whole, the logical next step was the attack on the Tradition of the Church, the Magisterium. And the end result, the Catholic Church in America or England.


32 posted on 10/06/2005 5:21:00 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: Rytwyng; P-Marlowe

Don't get your hopes up folks. The Catholic Church is not going to become Protestant. A call for more biblical literacy is not equal to the Pope validating Protestantism's sola scriptura error.


33 posted on 10/06/2005 5:23:12 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: jo kus

The difference between literal history and history. Literal history being the history witnessed by the author, versus the Creation which was witnessed by God and the angels. Genesis of Creation was the act of God and his actions made it be, but not necessarily EXACTLY as described in Genesis. Versus, the History of Abraham, Moses, Joshua, the Judges, etc, which is literal history witnessed by humanity and the people of Israel.


34 posted on 10/06/2005 5:24:34 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: papertyger
...the majority of those who I have known that are roman catholic's beleive what they want to beleve anyway.
I can think of no better remedy for such arrogance than a working knowledge of the Bible.

I can tell you that nothing outside of imposing the equivalent of Sharia law is going to make Catholics believe uniformly about doctrine. Think of it as a bell curve. You're always going to have 5% who are totally out in left field, 5% totally out in right field, and maybe 50% that believe correctly, with the rest holding beliefs in varying degrees.

This is just human nature.
35 posted on 10/06/2005 5:26:16 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: HarleyD
Why bother??? Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible

Are you here to fart all over the thread?
36 posted on 10/06/2005 5:27:34 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Salvation

From a Methodist, we have another smart pope in this world.


37 posted on 10/06/2005 5:28:10 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's Code and found a terrorist message)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat
I wouldn't confuse the Bishops of England, Scotland and Wales for the Church as a whole.

Why not? If Protestant polemicists can extrapolate the words of a 17 year old they met at a garage sale years ago to represent the beliefs (said in an actual FR post this week) of the entire 1 billion+ Catholic Church, using the bishops is no sweat.

I won't play that game though, bringing up Jimmy Swaggart or Pat Robertson and his diamond mines or Bishop Gene Robinson.
38 posted on 10/06/2005 5:32:20 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: HarleyD
Harley,I,m surprised at you.
What,s your purpose here?
Just because one Cardinal made that statement does not mean it,s shared by the whole Catholic faith.
Anyone can surely find fault with statements made by individuals of all denominations.

The problem with people that bash the Catholic Church is that they have accepted propaganda as fact.

This is always a dangerous thing,especially for the Christian mind.

Your brother in Christ.
39 posted on 10/06/2005 5:33:05 AM PDT by pro610 (faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains.Praise Jesus Christ!)
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To: Salvation

I just started a 24 week time line based Catholic Bible Study last night. Usually I would go to a Pentecostal Bible study but I have now found a new bible study home. It was great to be able to fellowship with other Catholics who believe in the Sacraments, and pray the Rosary. I enjoyed my old bible study but it would make me upset when people would tell me that I wasn't saved and my baptism was invalid.


40 posted on 10/06/2005 5:45:53 AM PDT by todd1
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