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Jews Bashing Christians on Moral Politics Have Some Questions to Answer (Links to FR!)
LifeSite ^ | January 30, 2006 | Terry Vanderheyden

Posted on 01/31/2006 8:29:34 AM PST by NYer

NEW YORK, January 30, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A Jewish author has written a commentary that probes the motivation behind certain leaders of liberal Judaism’s contempt for evangelical Christianity.

David Klinghoffer, whose article, Six Questions for Jews--From Christians, appears in this month’s edition of First Things and states, “These are troubled times for Jewish-Christian relations. In November, two of the most influential American Jewish leaders, representing large swaths of the Jewish community, gave major speeches vilifying politically conservative Christians,” he explains.

Klinghoffer states that, as an Orthodox Jew, he finds it difficult to understand the animosity of liberal Jews toward such ideas as the traditional definition of marriage and other beliefs that have long been held by Jews.

Klinghoffer describes how Rabbi Eric Yoffie, president of the liberal Union for Reform Judaism, the country’s largest Jewish denomination, attacked Christian opposition to same-sex “marriage.” Yoffie compared Christians to Nazis, stating that Hitler outlawed homosexuality in 1933. “We cannot forget that when Hitler came to power in 1933, one of the first things that he did was ban gay organizations,” Yoffie stated.

Klinghoffer presents six questions for Yoffie and other liberals like him:

• “Is it not true that Jewish leaders have better things to worry about than the spiritual fate of SpongeBob SquarePants? Let’s say, about radical Islam? Or secularism? At a time when radical Muslims threaten Jews and others around the world, why vilify American Christians?
• If conservative Christians were less politically powerful, would this help or hurt the security of the state of Israel?
• Practically, what positive ends could anti-Christian attacks possibly accomplish?
• If evangelicals seek to “Christianize America,” a phrase implying legal coercion, when is the last time anyone tried to Christianize you?
• How do you explain the fact that “bigoted” Christian political positions mirror the traditional views of your own religion, Judaism?
• Have you considered the economics behind these anti-Christian attacks?”

Klinghoffer explains that Judaism traditionally agrees with Christianity on most important moral issues like euthanasia, abortion, and same-sex “marriage.” “If it’s ‘Nazi’-like to oppose gay marriage, as Rabbi Yoffie argues, then Jewish tradition must also be Hitlerian,” Klinghoffer argues. “The Hebrew Bible forbids homosexual intercourse, and Jewish rabbinic thought warns against tampering with the institution of marriage. Indeed, a classical rabbinic midrash explains that one of the reasons God was so disgusted with the original inhabitants of the land of Canaan, and caused the land to disgorge them in favor of the children of Israel, was that the Canaanites wrote marriage contracts for members of the same sex,” he explains. “Why are these views evidence of ‘zealotry’ when held by Christians but not so when held by every generation of Jews universally down to about a hundred years ago?”

Read Klinghoffer’s thought-provoking article on line at:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1563455/posts

See the current edition of First Things (this article not yet available on line here):
http://www.firstthings.com/menus/ft0602.html


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Ecumenism; General Discusssion; History; Judaism; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology
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1 posted on 01/31/2006 8:29:36 AM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 01/31/2006 8:30:12 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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Yes -pay attention; there is a world of difference between orthodox and liberals -just as there is between conservatives and leftists...

3 posted on 01/31/2006 8:42:33 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: NYer
Interesting article, as usual, NYer.

I know it is almost heresy to say this but fundamental Muslims, conservative Catholics, fundamental Christians and orthodox Jews have much in common as to the "traditionalism" in their respective moralities and values. Well, that is my point of view.

Conversely, liberal Catholics, Christians and Jews have much in common too. I don't know of any organized "liberal" Muslim group, do you?

I am donning my flame-proof overalls as I write.

4 posted on 01/31/2006 9:00:38 AM PST by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: NYer

That's because those Jewish "leaders" are not so much practicing Judaism as they are practicing leftism. They have no more respect for their Jewish backgrounds than they do Christianity. They just found that they could use their ancestry as a veil to hide behind after throwing out their leftist attacks.


5 posted on 01/31/2006 9:06:54 AM PST by kenth
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To: starfish923

There's nothing wrong with having deeply held beliefs, and adhering to them. Where the problem lies is what those beliefs are; i.e. kill the infidel.


6 posted on 01/31/2006 9:09:27 AM PST by kenth
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To: kenth
"Klinghoffer describes how Rabbi Eric Yoffie, president of the liberal Union for Reform Judaism, the country’s largest Jewish denomination, attacked Christian opposition to same-sex “marriage.” Yoffie compared Christians to Nazis,"

No mystery here....Yoffie is apparently a queer.......:0)
7 posted on 01/31/2006 9:18:53 AM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (My sheepskin is still graz'in......)
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To: NYer

Looks interesting - thanks for posting it!


8 posted on 01/31/2006 9:33:02 AM PST by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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To: SJackson

Ping!


9 posted on 01/31/2006 9:40:36 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: yer gonna put yer eye out

LMAO.


10 posted on 01/31/2006 9:42:07 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Silence is a good fence for wisdom.)
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To: Alouette; Salem

Ping! Thanks to NYer for posting this.


11 posted on 01/31/2006 10:04:53 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (Not a nickel, not a dime, stop sending my tax money to Hamastine!)
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To: yer gonna put yer eye out

HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ME, I AM YOFFIE, THE GREAT AND POWERFUL!!

12 posted on 01/31/2006 10:19:09 AM PST by Alouette (Please pray for Israel: Psalms of the Day: 10-17)
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Definition of a Jewish liberal: someone who won't talk to an evangelical Christian, but think that it is possible to negotiate with HAMAS.

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13 posted on 01/31/2006 10:20:31 AM PST by Alouette (Please pray for Israel: Psalms of the Day: 10-17)
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To: NYer

Answer to all six questions: Because they are LIBERALS before they are Jews.


14 posted on 01/31/2006 10:32:00 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: DBeers

Thanks - we need to keep repeating that distinction. Just like RINOs there are JINOs - Jews in name only AKA liberals & secularists who are throwing away a tremendous heritage.


15 posted on 01/31/2006 10:34:43 AM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: NYer

"Indeed, a classical rabbinic midrash explains that one of the reasons God was so disgusted with the original inhabitants of the land of Canaan, and caused the land to disgorge them in favor of the children of Israel, was that the Canaanites wrote marriage contracts for members of the same sex,” he explains."

Interesting. I have often wondered the reason for the, "utter contempt" of the Canaanites.


16 posted on 01/31/2006 12:57:56 PM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: starfish923; BOBWADE; Mrs Zip
I don't know of any organized "liberal" Muslim group, do you?

Yes, I do. 95 percent of the adherents to the religion of peace are radical/liberal/condoners of murder. Let's run over to allah's snack bar after killing a few women and babies. Dang, that was easy to answer.

17 posted on 01/31/2006 5:17:51 PM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))
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18 posted on 01/31/2006 5:39:45 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: NYer

It's gotten so bad some Jews were sticking up for Christmas last season


19 posted on 01/31/2006 5:54:31 PM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: NYer
Merely JINOs hiding behind the Star of David who accuse any and all of "Antisemitism" every time their left wing anti American dogma is challenged

imo

20 posted on 01/31/2006 6:07:03 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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