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Another kind of Catholic: Breakaway groups reject Vatican teachings
Miami Herald ^ | February 25, 2006 | Alexandra Alter

Posted on 02/25/2006 10:40:21 AM PST by NYer

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To: Victoria Delsoul

Despite the fact that I am not Catholic, I have great respect and affinity for the Catholic Church (thanks to having many Catholic friends and living in communites with large Catholic populations). These folks seem to want all of the accoutrements of the Church without the doctrine. To me, they appear to be more protestant than Catholic.


21 posted on 02/25/2006 4:24:46 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: aimhigh
Why wouldn't this group be considered another "protestant" group?

They are ... but they choose to retain the word 'catholic'.

22 posted on 02/25/2006 4:27:41 PM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: Army Air Corps
To me, they appear to be more protestant than Catholic.

I concur with that.

23 posted on 02/25/2006 6:33:26 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: NYer
Why wouldn't this group be considered another "protestant" group? They are ... but they choose to retain the word 'catholic'.

Wolves in sheeps clothing here. Episcopalians and Lutherans have a similar liturgy but are honest about not being in communion with the Bishop of Rome.

24 posted on 02/25/2006 7:40:12 PM PST by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: NYer
. ''Our motto is love without judgment, and that's piqued some curiosity,'' said Villaire, a former Roman Catholic priest who's now a bishop in an independent Catholic movement.

''Most of us were born and raised as Catholics, and in good conscience I still see myself as Catholic,'' said Villaire... Bishop Villaire, who was raised Roman Catholic in Bay City, Mich., said he felt called to the priesthood at a young age. But shortly after being ordained in 1965, he started to feel uncomfortable with church teachings condemning divorce and birth control, he said.

His father, a grocer, and his mother, a beautician, had raised him to believe ''the customer is always right,'' he said. Denying communion to divorced Catholics made him uncomfortable, he said.

''We had people in parishes who were in a second marriage and they felt that they were on the outside looking in,'' he said. ``I encouraged them to come to communion. That put me at odds with the church.''

*Typical fraud. "...love without judgement.." for him is a demostrable LIE. He judges the Church guilty in its Doctrine and Orthopraxis and judges himself innocent in his priestly perfidy and heterodoxy.

But, he does it with a smile...ot it's ok, I guess.

John 7 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge just judgment.

1 John 3 18 My little children, let us not love in word, nor in tongue, but in deed, and in truth. 19 In this we know that we are of the truth: and in his sight shall persuade our hearts. 20 For if our heart reprehend us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

21 Dearly beloved, if our heart do not reprehend us, we have confidence towards God: 22 And whatsoever we shall ask, we shall receive of him: because we keep his commandments, and do those things which are pleasing in his sight. 23 And this is his commandment, that we should believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ: and love one another, as he hath given commandment unto us. 24 And he that keepeth his commandments, abideth in him, and he in him. And in this we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

25 posted on 02/26/2006 3:15:54 AM PST by bornacatholic
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To: NYer; bornacatholic; Salvation

The unasked question here is WHY? Why is the Miami Herald reporting this non-story?

Could it be to lend credibility to those who are in schism with the Catholic churches?

Naturally, an objective mainstream newspaper such as the Miami Herald wouldn't allow it's editorial perspective to bleed over into it's reporting. (/sarcasm)


26 posted on 02/26/2006 6:00:00 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Fish gotta swim

Birds gotta fly

Liberal Press gotta attack Christianity

27 posted on 02/26/2006 1:43:30 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: NYer

''I felt more of an understanding of the way that Bishop Villaire interprets the Catholic teaching,'' she said.

Never mind the way the Catholic teachings have been interpreted for centuries, this guy got it right.


28 posted on 02/27/2006 5:52:52 AM PST by mikey565 (Let upstate NY secede from NY)
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To: NYer

''I felt more of an understanding of the way that Bishop Villaire interprets the Catholic teaching,'' she said.

Never mind the way the Catholic teachings have been interpreted for centuries, this guy got it right.


29 posted on 02/27/2006 5:52:53 AM PST by mikey565 (Let upstate NY secede from NY)
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"His father, a grocer, and his mother, a beautician, had raised him to believe ''the customer is always right,'' he said. Denying communion to divorced Catholics made him uncomfortable, he said."

Poor thing, he doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.


30 posted on 02/27/2006 5:54:45 AM PST by mikey565 (Let upstate NY secede from NY)
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31 posted on 02/27/2006 7:23:19 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer
Old Catholic Church....Ecumenical Catholic Church.....Traditional Catholic Church.....New Catholic Church......Independent Catholic Church......True Catholic Church......Reformed Catholic Church.......Liberal Catholic Church....blah, blah, blah...........

Meet the people in a quandry.

Moved by the same instincts as those who have abandoned the faith down the centuries yet still convinced that it's important to be Catholic.

Solution: change the faith to suit yourself but still keep the name.

32 posted on 02/27/2006 8:05:38 AM PST by marshmallow
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