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[Catholic] Tradition catching on with Baptists [Ecumenical Ash Wed. Service]
Birmingham News ^ | Wednesday, March 01, 2006 | Greg Garrison

Posted on 03/01/2006 10:35:38 AM PST by Full Court

Tradition catching on with Baptists

Protestants begin to take part in Ash Wednesday for its theological lessons
Wednesday, March 01, 2006
GREG GARRISON
News staff writer

It used to be that Baptists had nothing to do with Ash Wednesday, a liturgical holiday they associated with Catholics. No more.

"It's a good way of putting the congregation in the right mind-set to prepare for Easter," said the Rev. Christopher Hamlin, pastor of Tabernacle Baptist Church in Smithfield.

An ecumenical service at 6:30 tonight at Our Lady Queen of the Universe Catholic Church will include participation by three Baptist churches - Baptist Church of the Covenant and Trinity Baptist, both on Southside, and Tabernacle.

"For us to go to the Catholic church, that's something new as Baptists," said the Rev. Sarah Jackson Shelton, the Covenant pastor. "It unites us as the bigger church, and with a larger tradition. ... It's being part of a sacred story that belongs to all of us."

Other Baptist churches observe the tradition on their own. Fellowship of the Valley, for example, will have a service at 7 tonight at the Lake Cyrus Clubhouse in Hoover.

"It's an appreciation for the symbols of our faith, an opportunity to see, feel and touch those symbols," said the fellowship's pastor, the Rev. Michial Lewis.

Lewis said the Reformation of the 1500s, when Martin Luther led a reaction against abuses in the Roman Catholic Church, resulted in rejection of traditions such as Lent by many Protestants.

"We do emphasize that our relationship with Christ is through faith alone, and the reformers wanted to avoid the appearance that we gain acceptance with God through rituals or symbols," Lewis said. "Now, people can understand the difference. These symbols come alongside as holy reminders."

Robert Hodgson, dean of the Nida Institute for Biblical Scholarship at the American Bible Society in New York City, said many evangelicals are beginning to see the biblical roots of Lent. "Jesus goes into the wilderness for 40 days and disciplines himself with fasting and prayer."

The 40 days of Lent are preparation for Easter, when Christians celebrate the resurrection of Jesus. Easter is April 16 this year for more than a billion Western Christians and April 23 for Eastern Orthodox.

Baptists are taking an increased interest in the liturgical season for its theological lessons, Shelton said. "It's important for us to take the opportunity to confess our sin."

During many Christian observances of Ash Wednesday, the minister rubs ashes on the foreheads of congregants and says, "You are dust and to dust you shall return," quoting a verse from Genesis.

The wearing of ashes is prominent in the New Testament with John the Baptist, who called for repentance and wore sackcloth and ashes.

"It's the outward, visible symbol of something that's happening internally," Shelton said.

"We too will return to ashes," she said. "There's life beyond that, and hope beyond what we experience in this life."

E-mail: ggarrison@bhamnews.com

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To: NYer

This is a really funny book!


41 posted on 03/01/2006 12:28:28 PM PST by Convert from ECUSA (The "religion of peace" is actually the religion of constant rage and riots.)
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To: hellinahandcart
I didn't know non-catholics could get ashes at a Catholic church, or I'd have gone to one this morning. Is this normal?

It's non sacramental - no reason why you couldn't receive ashes at a Catholic Church.

42 posted on 03/01/2006 12:28:46 PM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer

Be very very careful when you say "Father What a Waste" there are some who will go nuts on you, even if you're just quoting a book or the Italian Press. ;-)


43 posted on 03/01/2006 12:34:49 PM PST by Jaded (The truth shall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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To: Full Court
An ecumenical service at 6:30 tonight at Our Lady Queen of the Universe Catholic Church will include participation by three Baptist churches - Baptist Church of the Covenant and Trinity Baptist, both on Southside, and Tabernacle.

"For us to go to the Catholic church, that's something new as Baptists," said the Rev. Sarah Jackson Shelton, the Covenant pastor. "It unites us as the bigger church, and with a larger tradition. ... It's being part of a sacred story that belongs to all of us."

Wonderful!

44 posted on 03/01/2006 12:37:41 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Jaded; Domestic Church
Be very very careful when you say "Father What a Waste" there are some who will go nuts on you, even if you're just quoting a book or the Italian Press. ;-)

Can I post visual aids instead?


45 posted on 03/01/2006 12:38:19 PM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Hey, I know that church! I travel to Atlanta fairly often, and like to stop by the "OK Cafe" to eat sometimes... :)

I think it's a beautiful church building - the kind you look at and think "they don't make 'em like that anymore..." assuming you don't realize that it's just a few years old... :)

So what kind of church is it? I've been wondering about that.


Fletcher J


46 posted on 03/01/2006 12:39:32 PM PST by Fletcher J
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To: NYer
" Can I post visual aids instead? "

LOL! You're "naughty"! Heeheehee!
47 posted on 03/01/2006 12:40:35 PM PST by Convert from ECUSA (The "religion of peace" is actually the religion of constant rage and riots.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
. . . found the answer. You don't have to be Catholic, but you DO have to be a properly baptized Christian

Cool! Thanks.

48 posted on 03/01/2006 12:41:38 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: swmobuffalo

I caught that too!


49 posted on 03/01/2006 12:43:29 PM PST by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or get out of the Way!)
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To: Full Court
Revelations

How many are there? :)
50 posted on 03/01/2006 12:43:49 PM PST by armydoc
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To: JamesP81

"Our Lady Queen of the Universe Catholic Church

That's a mouthful of a name for a church."
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That's why the Baptist's shouldn't be there. We attempt to be faithful to SCRIPTURE.


51 posted on 03/01/2006 12:46:10 PM PST by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or get out of the Way!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

It that Church of the Apostles?


52 posted on 03/01/2006 1:04:03 PM PST by jer33 3
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To: CajunConservative

***Fellowship of the Valley is a Baptist faith community with an ecumenical perspective. Our current strategic partners are Shades Crest Baptist Church, the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship, and American Baptist Churches (USA).***

These are liberal organizations. Quite eye opening if one researches what they promote.


53 posted on 03/01/2006 1:06:23 PM PST by jer33 3
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To: WKB

Too much togetherness. We should stick to being allies in the political arena and leave church matters separate. I like Catholics, but their beliefs are fundamentally different than mine. Blurring the lines is bad for both.


54 posted on 03/01/2006 1:21:35 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

"I like Catholics, but their beliefs are fundamentally different than mine. Blurring the lines is bad for both."
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I agree. Sometimes in our rush to "all get along" we fail to recognize that there are somethings you can't compromise
and FAITH is first and foremost.


55 posted on 03/01/2006 1:28:46 PM PST by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or get out of the Way!)
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To: wmfights
That's why the Baptist's shouldn't be there. We attempt to be faithful to SCRIPTURE

I'm glad you do, but this Southern Baptist does the same. Regardless of what they teach you, the Catholic church doesn't hold the exclusive title of being the only church you can get saved in.
56 posted on 03/01/2006 1:38:25 PM PST by JamesP81
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To: Full Court

BOTH of them had that effect on people!


57 posted on 03/01/2006 1:44:58 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: trisham
However, their doctrine of salvation is Lutheran.
58 posted on 03/01/2006 1:46:32 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: JamesP81

"I'm glad you do, but this Southern Baptist does the same."
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You misunderstood me. I see the title this church has given itself and immediately knew this was not where GOD fearing Baptist's should be.

BTW, I am a Baptist.


59 posted on 03/01/2006 1:50:44 PM PST by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or get out of the Way!)
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To: Full Court

Until recently I was in my twenties, I thought everyone, Baptist, Lutheran, Catholic, etc, had Ash Wed., with the ashes. Kind of odd that this is a "new thing" for that Baptist church.


60 posted on 03/01/2006 1:53:02 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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